LOTR: Sam sure cries a lot

[m-jean03]

Aww...damn it, I have never had a friend who loved me as much as Sam loves Frodo. That touches my friggin heart when I see it! :cry:

I love Sam and Sean Astin! Love, love, love. I think it's interesting how Frodo and Sam are both stronger in different ways. Frodo seems so frail while Sam is sturdy, yet Sam weeps and Frodo remains calm. Ah, how we need each other. God bless us, everyone...:toast:

[LeftPeopleFinishFirst]

1. I have a friend like that.

He's the best thing that's ever happened to me.

[nuxvomica]

2. Welcome to DU!

I just saw LOTR:ROTK on Tuesday and I was also touched by the strength of their friendship, especially when Sam remains loyal after Frodo distrusts him.

When we studied LOTR in college back in the '70s, everyone in my class was having these heavy philosophical discussions about WWII and the battle between good-and-evil and the journey of the hero, etc. But I saw it as the loss of innocence and the sacrifice of childhood notions in order to reach adulthood. These sacrifices are nearly impossible to achieve without friendship.

[m-jean03]

5. I am the Sam to some-one...

I'd follow him to the ends of the earth to prove it to him, too. Cry a thousand tears in his arms if that's what it took.

[Dr Fate]

3. Clearly the best of the 3 movies- awesome themes...

loyalty, friendship, willpower-

not to mention the most kick-ass fantasy-battle scenes ever filmed...

4 solid stars from me- even theough the reunion scenes may come across as heavy-handed to some...

[FDRrocks]

4. Sean Astin is thus forgiven for Encino Man...

may he forever sleep with a clear conscience now.

[Bombero1956]

6. You'd cry too

if you had to sit downwind from Gollum all the time, he hasn't bathed in years.

[m-jean03]

7. I think he has bad-breath too

After all, he's the original Atkins-dieter

"I forgot the taste of bread...":D

[m-jean03]

11. I meant that about Gollum, not Sam n/t

[Faygo Kid]

8. Yeah, and I could have done without the wistful Frodo looks, too

Interminable ending, with Frodo staring wistfully at us. Sam and his unending tears for "Mr. Frodo." This is the only film of the three in which Peter Jackson tries to manipulate us. I wish he hadn't tried. The beginning is weak, the middle great, the end interminable and manipulative. Flame me.

[m-jean03]

12. I'm a girl so

I get all soft when I see guys crying
My father was too much of a tough guy I guess

Sam and Frodo can weep till the end of time
Makes me love em all the better

Maybe I've been manipulated...but I don't mind.

[Bucky]

13. considered yourself flamed (spoiler)

Thank you. I entirely agree. The slow motion jumping up and down on the bed as each new person walked into the room--also in slow motion--was more like a sleepover for a gaggle of 8th grade girls than the victory celebration of mighty warriors. My daughter, an 8th grader, was completely unsympathetic to my making note of this as we left the theater.

Why they had to trickle in one at a time like that, all to weepy violin music, is beyond me. It served no dramatic purpose and only padded the movie out, without building character, plot, drama, or mood.

Frankly I lost interest after the first humongous battle. Having two more humongous battles didn't seem to improve the movie. But the fight with the spider was cool. And at least a few of the orcs had personalities in this flick. The second movie, although much more dramatically satisfying, fed into Tolkien's subliminal racism (pretty blonde elves killing brutish dredlocked swarthy guys--ugh).

What annoyed me most was the complete lack of surprise. I'd not actually read any of the LOTR books, only for The Hobbit. But nothing happened in the 3rd movie that I couldn't have figured out from the 2nd. Even Golem seemed to lack getting any new character development.

It did occur to me that Samwise was the real hero of the story. After a while it seemed that Frodo was just a major lame-o who couldn't pull his shit together.

[Faygo Kid]

15. You, sir, are an astute critic

I couldn't agree more. That sappy bed jumping scene just wiped it out for me. I consider this third movie to be as unsatisfying in many ways as "Return of the Jedi" or "Godfather III (maybe not quite that bad). Peter Jackson just lost the dramatic tension. I was disappointed. Maybe more will come out of the woodwork and admit that this was simply not as good as expected and hoped.

[m-jean03]

17. OK, the bed-jumping WAS too much

The slow-motion of it made it even worse.

But I still love Sam.

Hey, you know what I just realized?

Sam was the only one who didn't jump on the bed.

Another reason why I love Sam.:thumbsup:

[JackDragna]

9. He's a little light in the bloomers, if you know what I mean..

*stage whisper* He sure likes Frodo. A LOT.

[grok]

10. How did you guys feel when the scren went blank

while they were sourrounded by molten lava? Everybody in my theater cried out "NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

It was also gratifying to see them all in the movie still care and fight even though so many said it was hopeless. Surrounded with so much death and destruction.

[FDRrocks]

14. "Can I leave now"

That's what I thought. I think my legs as ass were approaching muscle atrophy from being there so long.

[karnac]

16. I had GOOD seats.

But thee must have been some moisture or caramel cuz I stuck to the seat!

[xxqqqzme]

19. in the theatre

where I saw ROTK - when 'The End' came up (instead of 'directed by') there was an audible 'awwwww'.

add:there was no applause as in the 1st 2. Plus I did not like the way everyone survived the final battle Bcuz they all did not in the book - as we all know!

[terryg11]

18. yeah well, in the book even Aragorn gets weepy a few times

how do you thnk that would have played out on the big screen?

[Liberal Veteran]

20. I like the non-weepy Viggo Aragorn.

Really about the only time I thought he should be crying was during Boromir's death, but that was probably because I was crying at that.