According to the movie 'The Hours,' all women are lesbians, suicidal,

[Smashmouth]

and/or insane.

Discuss.

[fishguy]

1. What is your point?

All men know this....

[mistertrickster]

2. Well, that was Virginia Woolf herself, but then what do you want

with the Freudians telling women they're all men wanna-be's?

[Booberdawg]

3. What movie is this?

Theater or TV?

If they want to accuse me of being a lesbian, well, ??? oh well ?? I don't really care, but suicidal ...?? and insane ????

I guess I'd have to see the movie.

[JohnKleeb]

4. That movie with Nicole Kidman and I think Juliane Moore

I remember the trailer, never saw it.

[Skittles]

5. where did it imply ALL women are like that?

certainly the women in the movie were

[Smashmouth]

7. They are the only women in the movie

Well, the maids at the Woolf manor appeared normal. But Julianne Moore's neighbor was a secret lesbian, along with Woolf's sister.

My point is that of course not all women are lesbians, suicidal and/or insane, but someone forgot to tell the author of the book the movie is based on. The author, by the way, is a man...just like the author of 'Witches of Eastwick,' which was all about women.

I'm just watching it now. That's all.

[nostamj]

22. The author, by the way, is a man

The author, by the way, is a gay man (if that adds anything to the analysis... such as it is)

p.s. the subject line is a bit of an oversimplification. the book and the movie are about three specific women, not ALL women.

[EstimatedProphet]

6. I thought it was just the women I usually date

that are that way...
I've had bad selection criteria in the past. I think I'm past it now at least.

[Cheswick2.0]

8. yeah, bad news dude... it is all of us

we can't help it. We are all so bitter over not having a penis of our own.

[Kamika]

10. rofl

Yep that's it.


Makes me want to go postal in a male locker room.


Altough I thought all liberal women are lesbian by default

[gator_in_Ontario]

21. The only time I have

penis envy, is when I'm waiting for a bathroom at a concert or something...or at Disney World. The men smirking as they zip in and out of the washrooms while we suffer in line.....

[Bertha Venation]

27. shh

we don't want them to know this, do we?

[alphafemale]

15. Welcome to DU EP! Love that sig line pic!

[Demeter]

9. The Only Times I've Felt Suicidal or Insane

Have been while dealing with men (and my teenage daughters)

You forgot to include homicidal.

If I were a lesbian, these problems would all go away (except the teenagers)

[L.A.dweller]

11. That movie is awful.

They just keep playing Phillip Glass's music to make it seem so intense and melodramatic.

What the guy with AIDS does makes no sense at all. stupid stupid...

[joeybee12]

13. Yeah, it was really, really bad. And the acting, except for

Julianne Moore, sucked. Nicole Kidman can't act, and Meryle Streep was way too hammy, as she usually is.

Never read the book, but it probably is a decent book. Interesting subject matter, made incredibly boring by a second-rate director.

[L.A.dweller]

14. Julianne Moore is awesome.

I enjoy the movies that she is in (except for this one). I would recommend Far From Heaven if you haven't seen it.

[joeybee12]

19. I agree, and she was robbed for her work in Far From Heaven

The problem with the movie is that she is so good that most people don't realize it--it's a very subtle and powerful performance. I wish she had come out with more this year--she would have won this year after the Oscar voters wake upa nd eralize how they screwed her over last year.

Have you ever seen any Douglas Sirk movies? Far From Heaven is sort of a homage to him. A few years back I got into those, and started renting them. If you haven't, rent Imitation of Life, and see what a good job they do of copying the style of those 50's melodramas.

[harper]

23. Its a wonderful book, one of my favorites

And I agree Julianne Moore was wonderful. As far a Nicole Kidman, I just wanted to laugh when I saw her with that fake nose.

[Bertha Venation]

28. L.A.Dweller & Joeybee...?

One wonders what type of film you do enjoy. "The Hours" was a masterpiece. I agree about the score; IMO Glass is a hack. But the film was moving, disturbing, and brought at least one woman some understanding of her own mother. I was amazed at the film -- almost as amazed as I was by the book.

And if you think the actions of Harris's character made no sense, I imagine that it's possible you've never been emotionally destroyed by someone who should've been your rock.

JMHO; YMMV.

[joeybee12]

30. Apparently our tastes are very different--The Hours was really

contrived and predictable. I usually like Ed Harris--he was great in Pollock, which is a very good movie, but the Hours is just typical Hollywood drivel.

Now, if they actually had an actress portraying Virginia Woolfe, it might have been decent.

Besides, I did like the Julianne Moore section--she was great.

[Bertha Venation]

31. Fair enough.

Imagine how boring the world would be if we all only liked the same things.

[joeybee12]

12. The Hours proves that if you can't act, and just grimace and grunt

in front of the camera with your real nose, Oscar voters are so stupid they'll reward you.

Yeah, you know who I'm talking about--talentless Aussie.

[Mrs. Venation]

16. I Guess You Didn't See

the same movie that I saw. While the movie reflects the sorrow of Virginia Woolfe's life and the tragedy of her suicide, and the ravages of AIDS, I certainly did not feel that the movie depicts all women as lesbians, suicidal, or insane.

I felt the film was masterfully acted. I couldn't disagree more about Nicole Kidman's performance; the character she portrayed is so totally not who she is that she was hesitant to even take on the role. I felt her performance was stunning and that she deserved the Oscar.

Maybe some people have a problem with any film in which the primary characters are not heterosexual . . . that's just speculation on my part, but I wouldn't let such squeamishness detract from the film itself.

I purchased the movie on DVD, and while "The Hours" is not something I'd want to watch with great frequency, I do think it will be, in the long run, honored as a film classic.

[sendero]

17. A movie or book....

... has to focus on a narrow swath of people. It cannot include the "token straight happy person" just to be representative.

That said, I've never seen it and never will. Don't think I would get much out of it...

[RecoveringAsshole]

18. Okay

:shrug:

[He loved Big Brother]

20. This has been discussed, everthing from poets to "Buffy"

http://www.stephenbooth.org/lesbiancliche.htm

[vi5]

24. Huh? You mean they're not?

Oh the humanity! My entire world view and belief system down the tubes. Now I'll have to rethink all of my relationships!!









Kidding.....I'm kidding.

[Bertha Venation]

25. If this is the impression you took away from the film

you missed a fantastic and well-told story. Too bad. I suggest you read the book.

[populistmom]

26. Sometimes I wish I were a lesbian

My life would have been easier in some respects, but alas, you damned men keep pulling me in regardless. I can't help it, I love you guys even if it seems like I'm perpetually beating my head agianst assorted brick walls. I used to feel suicidal one day a month due to really bad PMS but I don't get that anymore.

[Bertha Venation]

29. I think both my sisters share this sentiment.

And I'm glad you don't get suicidal PMS anymore.

[maxanne]

32. yes

It's true. All women are either suicidal, lesbians, or insane. We may even be a combo plate of some or all of the above.

Why, you ask?

It has something to do with centuries of patriarchy and oppression, not to mention centuries of stereotyping by the aforementioned patriarchs. :eyes: