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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:23 PM
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The Coolest Pop Icon In American History?
Since the 1940's, I guess, whether she or he was from America or not.

Twiggy, or who? ;)

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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:24 PM
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1. I can't decide. I guess I'm good with Twiggy. n/t
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:26 PM
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2. Andy Warhol
Shitty artist though. Best thing Warhol ever did was discover Jean-Michel Basquiat. Basquiat deserved to be a pop icon but simply died before anybody outside of the NYC art world had any f**king clue who he was.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:28 PM
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3. Iggy Pop Icon and I don't care
oh wait a minute
its
Jimmy Crack Corn and I don't care



carry on:P
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Tikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:36 PM
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6. Tee hee hee...Mr. Tikki is so ROTFL....
..me too.


The Tikkis
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:34 PM
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4. It would be one of these two gents:

or

Sometimes outsiders (I'm Canadian) just have a better perspective on these things.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:36 PM
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8. Who is that? Palance?
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:38 PM
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9. Yup. It was him or Lee Van Cleef.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:40 PM
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11. Great choice, then. I almost picked Cagney, but the OP said after 1940
And Cagney sort of straddled that line.
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mad-mommy Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:40 PM
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10. We live by Jack Palance's farm...
where they just has that huge auction
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:36 PM
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5. Prince.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 08:18 AM
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37. I thought of him first as well. (n/t)
.
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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:36 PM
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7. Marilyn Monroe n/t
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:41 PM
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12. Silly question
Only one possible answer.



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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:42 PM
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15. He was my second choice
:D
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:47 PM
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17. After *Marilyn*??
Perhaps I misread the OP. I thought it said "coolest."

Marilyn wouldn't have known cool if it blew her dress up.

Dean didn't know anything else, except how to act.

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lizziegrace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:32 PM
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18. Hey Oedi!
:P

She was cool to me. :)
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:37 PM
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19. Wha'd she do that was cool?
Act all fragile? Marry a Jankee? Eat pills?

:shrug:

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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:41 PM
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13. there can be no argument, it's neal fucking cassady
i don't remember who it was that said it, but it was something along the lines that the reason neal never really wrote anything was because he didn't have to. his whole life was a novel, and he lived every second what all of his friends could only dream of capturing on paper.

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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 11:38 PM
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20. Good choice
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patrick t. cakes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:36 AM
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24. definitely
:thumbsup:
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:42 PM
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14. Mr. Rogers.
With Liberace a close second.
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Arkham House Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-18-06 10:44 PM
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16. For Chrissakes, it's Bogart...
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:41 AM
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25. May I second that? Can't believe it took so long for that to be posted.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:26 AM
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30. Bogie treated women pretty crappily
On- and off-screen.

I don't think that's very cool.

Hell of an actor, though.

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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:14 AM
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21. Coolest, by far
In World history...



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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:17 AM
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22. I agree with this one...nt
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:19 AM
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23. if it's not music, but just pop culture I say James Dean
if it's music that's impossible to calculate

God, musically Michael Jackson might slip in there somehow....
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:48 AM
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26. Ahem...
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 01:50 AM
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27. wow.
sorry I didn't see it. He was so damn fine.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:20 AM
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28. Frank Sinatra
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lettre de cachet Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:23 AM
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29. No woman tops Debbie Harry
Worked in the first head shop in New York
Played at the first gay pride in New York in 1973
Waitressed at Max's Kansas City and served dinner to Jefferson Airplane before they played Woodstock
Dated David Johannsen
Was a Playboy Bunny
Was given a ride by and escaped a man who may have been Ted Bundy
Blondie was one of the first bands to play CBGB's
Was known as a good person with a great sense of humor at CB's who'd give rides home when needed.
Was a feminist who had no problem with flirting in the 70's
Cut her clothes off onstage while singing "Rip Her To Shreds"
When joined by Iggy onstage, took her clothes off and sang with him
Was a regular at Studio 54

Blondie was the first New York punk band to play LA and the audience was wearing flowered hippie dresses and bell-bottoms. By the end of the week, the audience was wearing skinny ties, mod skirts, cat's eye sunglasses and straight-legged jeans.

Got crap from punks for being too pop, pop fans for being too punk, punks for Heart of Glass, rock fans for being too weird, critics for being "too sexy", and did whatever they wanted anyway.

Slept on a cot at the hospital for months in the early 80's to nurse her boyfriend when the nurses thought he had AIDS and wouldn't help him.

Helped her friends out that didn't reach the same level of fame.

A wrestling fan who starred in a broadway show with Andy Kauffman where she'd literally and figuratively wrestle through life.

Joined The Jazz Passengers with Elvis Costello

Wore a dress made out of hundreds of razorblades at an awards show.

Gave encouragement to Shirley Manson of Garbage when she was starting out. Banged her head in the moshpit at Shirley's shows.

Staged a fight with two drag queens at Wigstock. They told her not to hold back and to really hit them. She was at a table in the back while they were doing "Heart of Glass" horribly. One of them stopped and said, "What's so hard about this? Anyone could do this crap". Debbie ran onstage with a pissed off look and started fighting them. People thought it was real and she got accused of being a gaybasher by the papers.

In the movies she's played a masochistic temptress, a suburban witch preparing a kid for dinner, a lesbian strip club owner, an overbearing stagemother, a possessive clinging incestuous mother, a phonesexworking butch lesbian that beats up a girls' abusive boyfriend, a desperate singer that goes home with a dwarf, a psychotic nurse, a disturbed woman osessed with Christmas, and a life weary waitress.

She's classy, trashy, sweet, aggressive, intelligent, talented, beatnik, arty, and interesting as hell.










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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:29 AM
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31. didn't she also write the first rap song?
"Rapture" is track number eight on the 1980 album Autoamerican by Blondie. This was the second and final song to be released from the album, where it reached number five in the UK singles chart and number one on the U.S. Billboard Hot 100. It was the first Hip-Hop song to ever reach number one in the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture_(song)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:57 AM
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32. Hardly...
The Last Poets and Gil Scott-Heron predate that by a decade. "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang came out in 1979. And Debbie Harry name-checks Fab Five Freddy (original host of Yo! MTV Raps) and Grandmaster Flash in that song. VERY far from the first.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 04:59 AM
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33. Well if anything she has got to me the first Female rapper
Thanks for the info
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lettre de cachet Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 05:26 AM
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34. Rapper's Delight
The Sugar Hill Gang's "Rapper's Delight" made it to #36 on the pop charts in '79. Rapture was the first number one.

Chris and Debbie were introduced to the hip hop world by a couple of graffiti artists they knew. Some of the singing parts of "Rapture" are about being at a hip hop party back then with everyone in the place shaking what they got. Debbie and Chris wrote the rap part quickly and she did it in one take.

People danced their asses off back then. I used to go to a club in the late 80's where people were doing amazing things, bouncing from one end of the floor to the other and staying on the beat. Inventing all kinds of moves. Even at the strip mall, kids would bring a mat of cardboard and go for it in the parking lot.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 05:34 AM
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35. I got it!!!!!

This guy just friggen rawks!!!!
:rofl:
Ok hit me with a bat or something :7
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-19-06 07:02 AM
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36. The two Franks.
Zappa and Sinatra.

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