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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:40 PM
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Poll question: How many DUers abstain from beef?
This is just a general interest poll. I'm wondering how many folks here are beef eaters. And for good measure, I included pork and poultry into the mix.
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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:41 PM
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1. Eat more Chikin!
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:44 PM
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2. #5
Abstain from all
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curse10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:44 PM
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3. Your local resident veginazi abstains from all meat!
:-)
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:48 PM
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4. Selectively abstemious.
I refrain from eating pork, with two exceptions: prosciutto (that stuff's just too good) and pepperoni (only on pizza, and only once in a while; I usually prefer vegetarian pizza).

I have too great a love for blood-rare steak to give up beef completely, although I don't eat red meat but once every week or two.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:51 PM
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5. I abstain from all vegetables
I hate to hear their little screams when my fork punctures their itty bitty vegetable bodies.
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mindless Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:52 PM
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6. Mmmmmmmm Mmmmmmmm
Omnivours.....(drooling)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:58 PM
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7. Carnivore from Hell
Steak Tartre :P
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:59 PM
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8. Omnivorous but..
going to stay away from beef for awhile....ahemm

It's chicken, turkey, duck, pheasant, game hens, fish, and lots of vegies for the near future. eek
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:01 AM
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9. Abstain from all..
Vegetarian here. :)
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:01 AM
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10. Them "Soy Analogs" are looking better all the time!
I already eat them. Now I might eat more.
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toodles_oduff Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:26 AM
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11. Might be Boca Burger time for me too!
I guiltily admit to the vegetarians & vegans that I like beef, prefer it to pork but this whole business makes me VERY uneasy. And the pork, poultry and fish industries shouldn't be too quick to gloat over this. I mean, could these prion diseases end up also affecting hogs, chickens, turkeys, etc. As for lamb chops, I believe these is a mad-cow-like illness called scrapie that affects sheep.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:37 PM
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38. well might not want to over-do on soy
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 02:38 PM by amazona
Apparently it is not too uncommon to develop an allergy to soy. It happened to a relative when she got a big soy kick, and they had a hell of a time figuring out what was causing her problems.

I'm not convinced soy was intended to be consumed by primates so I keep it very much in moderation.
On Edit -- I forgot to say my main reason for avoiding soy is that it supports Monsanto.
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put out Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:09 AM
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12. Omnivorous.
I was just gifted with beef. I knew the meat when it was alive. We don't eat much meat at all, and we respect what we eat, whatever it is. I had a little mean-spirited fun at a friend's expense, because she was horrified at what we were given. But, for her, by golly, every animal in the sea is okey-doke, as long as it isn't a mammal. Chickens don't count either. Oh, and bacon is O.K. too. Oh, and farmed catfish. and oysters. and trout, and

I just had to be quiet about it, eventually. I think whatever you want, go ahead. Based on my own nutrition practices, I certainly wouldn't judge another.
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:11 AM
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13. Vegan....
once I read what turns up and milk, what the animals go through producing milk or eggs and a variety of other products.... well... Why the fuck would I eat something that causes somethings elses suffering? There so much good crap to eat. I can deal without.
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:22 AM
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16. why would I eat something that is fed other dead animals as feed?
To feed a cow - an herbivore, other dead cows ground into their feed-like they have a choice to eat it or not-not to mentionall the steroids,antibiotics etc, just to keep them alive long enough to kill, is pretty effin' sick if you ask me.

....and slaughter houses... chicken houses...noooo thanks...I've seen too much of what really goes on, living back in farm country. We treat our animals with such cruelty and in unnatural ways, then turn around kill them in houses of death and cut them up to fit into little plastic wrapped packages and wonder why we get sick from it....
:puke:

Thre is something wrong with the whole picture somehow.....
DR
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:24 AM
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17. Agreed...
Edited on Wed Dec-24-03 01:24 AM by FDRrocks
While I, from a basic standpoint, disagree with hurting or harming animals, the current form of mass-farming is truely sickening!
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The Undertaker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:36 AM
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19. Um...
if you believe in God, then you'd believe humans are put above animals. That means, we have every right to treat them the way we do, and to eat them whenever we want.

But, you have your beliefs and I have mine. I respect them completely. :hi:

Although, I must say, I have never once hurt an animal. I love those critters to death. I only eat them after they've been processed. :D
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FDRrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:39 AM
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20. Welcome to DU...
But if you didn't buy that animal... would people kill them? What I basically mean is people nowadays rely on major corporations to process thier meat. They don't kill the animals themselves, but they provides the profits that allow the corporations to do that.

You chew an animals flesh, you hurt them. You pay people to kill them basically.

I'm not trying to prostletize you, but I beg you not to dillude yourself to the point where you feel eating meat is not killing an animal.

I respect your godly beliefs. If you beliefs such, my last 3 paragraphs matter none.
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The Undertaker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:44 AM
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21. I'm not a newbie (see profile)...
but, uh, thanks anyways? :hi:

The main beef (no pun intended) I have with corporate meat markets is that they pump up their animals with all these steroids to have the poor thing gain more meat. And worse yet, those steroids they pump up the cattle and poultry with have negative effects on humans, such as: sterile, allergies, and so forth. I think that's unethical, not only to the animal itself, but to us humans as well.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:41 PM
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43. "Dominion" over animals...
I always took that to mean we humans were in a role similar to that of a King, with the land and the animals under our rule.

Now, a King can be a tyrant, who uses the lands as he wishes without thought and cares nothing for the health and welfare of his subjects.

Or he can be a wise ruler, who protects his lands and his people from danger, and who takes their interests into account when making important decisions.

I decided long ago to be the wise King. It's one reason I am a Democrat.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 07:24 AM
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30. I personally, refrain from crap, but to each his own.
You do use industrial strength mouthwash, I assume?

May I steer you towards the veggie plate and guacamole. . .?
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:14 AM
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14. I abstain from most pork.
However, I have been known to eat the occasional piece of bacon.

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Selwynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:15 AM
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15. Yay, more steak for me! :)
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:44 PM
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34. Funny
Considering your sig and all...
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The Undertaker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 01:31 AM
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18. Other...I'm a friggen carnivore!
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:26 AM
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22. I don't exactly abstain from beef, but . . .
I'm eating a whole lot less of it than I used to . . . maybe once or twice a month, tops . . . this from someone whose daily diet would likely as not include a cheesburger and fries when I was younger . . . with this new scare, I'll probably avoid it completely, at least for now . . .
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:30 AM
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23. was a vegitarian now gone vegan
i have been up intill now been a on and off again vegan (would indulge in cheese once in a while never liked milk)
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wanderingbear Donating Member (639 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 03:41 AM
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24. Not me..Cows eat rainforests..
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:44 AM
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25. Vegetarian
I haven't ate a single bit of meat since I was about 7 years old.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:23 AM
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26. Although I know Mad Cow has at least a ten
year incubation period, I will refrain from all beef for the foreseeable future.

Oprah was taken to court when she advocated a beef free diet after she had the author of Mad Cow USA on her show. Seems she was right after all!

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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 05:59 AM
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27. Nearly "Omni"
There are some things I don't eat but I *love* real beef.

I agree with the "don't feed animals to herbivores" argument and so
have been restricting myself to organic (controlled & certified)
animal products from before the UK BSE scare.

It was really funny listening to the radio on the way in this morning:
had a spokesman from an American beef farmers association and another
from an American food inspectorate (sorry didn't note the exact names
or acronyms) and the two of them just did not agree at all ... :-)

And how the US admin spokesperson was decrying the horribly unsporting
orientals for imposing an immediate ban ... hee, hee ... "sauce for
the goose" and all that ...

Mind you, knowing Poodle, I bet that the UK market will stay open for
the US farmers to dump their beef even if everyone else in the world
puts up the barriers :-(

Nihil
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 06:04 AM
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28. I'm A Moderate Beef Eater...
Perhaps two or three times a month is enough for me.

-- Allen
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 06:36 AM
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29. Having been raised vegetarian...
I could just as easilly stop eating meat, but I can't help it when eating out.

If there are good vegetarian alternatives -- usually Indian, Arabic, Thai, and Italian I can eat veggies...

However, I can't help it sometimes, like at a sandwich shop, I'll usually have to get something with chicken or turkey. I must also admit, I do enjoy a steak sandwich once in a while as well.

However, I have avoided beef since the incident in Canada and have consumed it no more than five or ten times since then.

I eat pork very rarely, perhaps in various lunch meats, but this too is much less.

I don't know if these prions can make their way through chicken and turkey. If they can, I suppose I'd give them up. I can definetely live without meat, but I do think there is a strong case to be made that humans are omniverous, therefore I don't view it as morally superior to be vegetarian.

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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 07:27 AM
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31. I abstain from all mammals, actually
it's their family structure that makes me unwilling to eat them
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buddhamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 07:37 AM
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32. Abstain from All Meat
#5
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 12:40 PM
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33. Everything but fish
:)
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:31 PM
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35. No red meat
No beef, pig, deer. Will eat poultry on occasion. Only organic milk to cook with and eggs from free range chickens.
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:32 PM
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36. I abstain from all except chicken. No beef, no fish.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:35 PM
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37. vegetarian diet got too expensive for me
I was a vegetarian for several years but it got too hard for me to maintain a healthy body weight at a price I could pay. No diet is healthy if the end result is death by starvation. :-)

I probably won't eat ground beef in future but I'll still eat other forms of beef and other meats in moderation when they are affordable. After all the years and beers, I haven't seen any huge numbers of folks dropping dead from Mad Cow in Britain. Maybe a couple hundred, all told?

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:40 PM
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39. I am a lapsed vegetarian who sometimes eats chicken and
rarely eats beef but will if somebody is cooking it.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:43 PM
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40. total carnivore.
Actually, my unlce is the total carnivore. I kid you not when I say he eats anything that was once an animal. (He lives in KY and seriously has recipes for rodents like squirrel and opossum.)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:44 PM
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41. I don't eat mammals. Just poultry and fish/crustaceans
I don't know why I make such a distinction. I gave up 'four-legged' meat shortly after leaving the Forces. Never looked back. Once I can find an easy, affordable way to get the protein I need without poultry, I'll drop that, too.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 04:30 PM
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44. Same here
Mammal fat started to give me stomach cramps years ago. Beef, pork, venison, whatever.

I stick with poultry and fish. I hate crustaceans...they look like huge insects...

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tigerbeat Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 02:44 PM
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42. vegetarian for 16 years
....quit all meat on the same day and never looked back.
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