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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:57 AM
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Poll question: Who is the best NFL QB of all time?
Given the "discussion" about Brett Favre and his performance last night (gee, this place almost felt like GD for a while there), I figured we could vote on at least one aspect. Who is the best QB of all time? (And this is for the NFL only, don't consider college stats, please.)
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kclown Donating Member (459 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:59 AM
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1. Montana by a mile
Touchdown-interception ratio way above 2 for career.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:06 PM
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7. Unitas by two miles!
nm
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 11:59 AM
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2. Is this the Rush Limbaugh QB Quiz??? Where is Warren Moon?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:48 PM by LynneSin
Geez, where is Warren Moon???

:D
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:51 PM
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27. Truth be told, I considered Moon
However, as I limited this to NFL only, he didn't measure up. Had I considered PRO stats (including the CFL), he might have made the list.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:30 PM
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32. Moon and the rest
of the QB's that didn't spend their entire career in the NFL,Blanda was in the AFL,Graham was in the AFC,Moons career stats are better than both,how then can Moon be left off the list?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:26 PM
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41. Very good point
If you are going by NFL only then you have to eliminate AFL careers for many of the QB's on the list. Warren Moon was one of the best passers ever to play the game of football. Unfortunately he got saddle with some bad teams and he still passed for record amounts of yardage.

Moon has my vote!!!! If I was building an all-time greatest football team, he'd be my backup QB behind Donovan McNabb (who else would this philly fan have starting)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:00 PM
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3. The winning's the thing, right?
Gotta go with my man Otto.

Although, for the modern game (post-AFL/NFL merger), you can't go wrong with Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:01 PM
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4. What about Joe Namath?
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:02 PM by ih8thegop
??
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bamademo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:03 PM
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5. Thank You! And also Kenny Stabler
Joe Willie Rules!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:52 PM
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20. Namath won less than half of his games
and didn't have that great of a completion percentage.
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:03 PM
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6. Didn't Bob Griese lead the Dolphins to the only undefeated season
in NFL history?

That puts him up there, IMO.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:27 PM
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42. The Dolphins had "cake" schedule that year.
But I'll give credit where credit is due. Greise was ok but IMO not the best of all time. John Elway is my choice.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:08 PM
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8. 4 Super Bowl victory QB not on the list
Bradshaw.
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fishnfla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:10 PM
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9. Brett Favre
has played in over 200 games over the past 11 years. has not missed a start. 7 years now of 30 tds or more
having seen every one of those games, I can say without prejudice that he is such a great QB that he can keep BOTH teams in the game:)
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:10 PM
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10. Bradshaw
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:12 PM by Crisco
..

Whenever I hear a sports announcer talk about today's QBs who run out of the pocket to save a play, like it was invented two weeks ago, I get a chuckle.
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CrownPrinceBandar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:39 PM
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25. Hell yeah.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:12 PM
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11. A few more names for consideration:
Slingin' Sammy Baugh
Sid Luckman
Norm Van Brocklin
Sonny Jurgenson
Y.A. Tittle
Ken Anderson
Jim Kelly
Steve Young
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:12 PM
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12. John Elway
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:26 PM
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40. The absolute best IMO!
He could move the chains, and run the 2 minute drill like no other. If I had to pick one it would be John Elway.
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travisleit01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:33 PM
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45. Agreed!! Number 7 was the best... n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:13 PM
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13. Pelé. (nt)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:44 PM
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16. pele?
ya there really isn`t anyone who has done more for the sport. i`m sure there`s players now that are better but none of the new guys have the charm of pele...chicago gets to see man. united this summer,that`s going to be great!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:31 PM
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14. I Voted Montana, But. . .
. . . i had a hard time not picking Graham or Unitas. I'd say they're 1a, 1b, and 1c. The rest i can make a case for being just a notch below. But, not Otto or Johnny. So, i'm sort of hedging the answer.
The Professor
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:38 PM
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15. johnny u
he called his own plays. none of that bullshit calling in the plays. there isn`t a gb today that calls as many of his own plays as john did. that is the reason he`s the best.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:45 PM
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17. Johnny Unitas.
:thumbsup:
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GR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:46 PM
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18. It Might Be Graham...He Took His Team To Championships 10 Straight
years....But I voted for Unitas. He was awesome...
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:55 PM
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21. Otto 7 championships(+ 1 pro b-ball championship) 51 rushing TD's
Something like 140-20-4 lifetime record. The first of what we would consider the "modern" QB-timing patterns and not just long bombs.

Easily the best ever.


http://www.naplesnews.com/npdn/sports/article/0,2071,NPDN_15000_2521577,00.html
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kmla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:49 PM
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19. What? No Bobby Douglass? Or Jack Concannon? Or Mike Tomczak?
Blasphemy! Blasphemy, I say!

*turns sarcasm off*

No, really now. My selection?

Ryan Leaf.

*kmla ducks, runs for cover*
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:13 PM
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38. Ryan Leaf??? Hahaha.
Funny.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:58 PM
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22. In order (of those) Otto, Marino, Favre, Unitas, Tark,Roger, Griese,
Edited on Tue Dec-23-03 12:59 PM by underpants
Montana, BLanda.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 12:59 PM
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23. John Elway (n/t)
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:34 PM
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24. Gotta go with Joe, but Unitas, Graham, Layne deserve votes
So does Tarkenton, and here's a toast to Bobby Layne, too.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:51 PM
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26. Dan Fouts Deserves Some Votes
He carried the Chargers for years with a lousy defense and a mediocre running game.

Among the names in the poll, I would have to vote for Joe Montana.
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Andyjunction Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:52 PM
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28. John Elway!!!
I can't believe #7 wasn't even on the list :shrug:
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wysimdnwyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 01:56 PM
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29. For those who voted "Other"...
The ones left off the list were:
10 - Jorgenson
11 - Bradshaw
12 - Namath
13 - Jim McMahon (Hey, he won a Super Bowl!) <sarcasm off>
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:05 PM
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30. No Bob Avellini? No Jay Schroeder? No Farragamo?
This list is insufficient!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:29 PM
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43. What no Roman Gabriel?
He was a good one for the Rams back in the 60's.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-23-03 02:12 PM
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31. You've got Bob Griese but no ELWAY?!?
Holy crap that's one goofed up poll. Griese doesn't even belong with the others. Griese played for a rushing team with a stunning defense. His one claim to fame was that he played for the undefeated team, but he was merely an above average quaterback (some might say not even that).

Get rid of Griese and ADD ELWAY!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:31 PM
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44. Elway could do it all!
He had a rocket for an arm, was accurate, could run the ball himself, take the hits, run the 2 minute drill like no other...
Remember "The Drive"?
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jimbo fett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:55 AM
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33. Roger Staubach. Come on, people!
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 07:49 PM
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34. Johnny U.The first NFL superstar.
xx
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:00 PM
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35. Dan Fouts...
Look what he has to play with, and marvel at his accomplishments...

(Shottenhiemer is a fool, and the Bolts are stuck with him for another year...)

Haele
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kixot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 08:00 PM
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36. Dan Marino
Dan never gets any props but he's the f*$%ing MAN!
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:00 PM
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37. Marino? no way - Jim Kelley WAY before marino.
Marino is probably the most OVER rated QB!

Never even made it to a super bowl.

Kelley made 4 straight! Wouldn't/couldn't say he was the best, but INFINITELY better than over-rated Marino!

There are soooo many more that should be on this list ahead of Marino.

And you leave off John Elway?!!!
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:35 PM
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46. Marino was in SB XIX.
His team got beat by a great 49er team 38-16.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 11:21 PM
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50. Marino played in Super Bowl XIX.
Against San Francisco. The Dolphins lost.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 09:15 PM
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39. Bart Starr.
And exactly how you left him off your list is a mystery.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:48 PM
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47. Any votes for Jeff George?
The greatest quarterback that nobody could stand.
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The Undertaker Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 10:50 PM
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48. Anyone but Favre....
that's all I need to say. Actually, I think Dan Marino was the best QB of all-time, even though he didn't win one Superbowl. :cry:
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-24-03 11:19 PM
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49. If you look at stats, Dan Marino.
But he never got the ring.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:09 AM
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51. John Elway
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:29 AM
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52. I consider the Duke of Denver the best
and noone can top John Elway and his recordsetting number of comebacks.

But.. he's a confessed Republican.

Hawkeye-X
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carpetbagger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:47 AM
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53. Otto Graham.
105-17-4 record.
In his 10 seasons, he won 4 AAFC championships in 4 years, and took the Browns to the NFL championship all 6 years he played after the merger.
Six touchdowns (3 running, 3 passing) in the 1954 NFL championship.

His career stats may not be up with the old men, since he left while he was still on top, and his career was shortened by WWII (he didn't play pro until he was 25). But he did more in the ten years than the others did in 20.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 12:59 AM
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54. Sammy Baugh and Otto Graham
The next best are Montana and Bradshaw.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 01:04 AM
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55. These QB's are the best liked by their teammates
They weren't the most talented but they won by leadership, hustle and getting their teammates to believe in them.

-Sonny Jorgeson
-Bobby Lane
-Jim McMann
-Boomer Esiason
-Don Merrideth


These were the party boys and they made damn sure the O-line was shown a good damn time. To quote the movie 'North Dallas Forty' "Yeah you(his reciever) put me in the headlines but Joe Bob(one of his starting O lineman) keep me out of the Obituary's."
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Bundbuster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 04:12 AM
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56. John Elway (Unitas close 2nd)
If my life depended on winning a game, Elway would be my QB. As previously mentioned, however, he is an avowed repuke and will run for office, I fear, in my own Colorado.
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OhioStateProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 05:49 AM
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57. Terry Bradshaw
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Nile Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-25-03 06:38 AM
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58. Y. A. Tittle of Green Bay Packers.
Go packers!
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