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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:29 AM
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Andy Griffith Show started sucking when it went color
Why is that?
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:32 AM
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1. Don Knotts left the show at that time too.
I think that was a major contributor. And black and white does have an air of fantasy to it. Mayberry in color looked horribly... bland.
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Norbert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:51 AM
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4. They picked Jack Burns to replace Don Knotts.
and that just did not work. Also I guess color was like Maybeery was being modernized in a way and really Mayberry was always twenty years behind the times which was part of the mystique. B&W fit better.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:39 AM
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2. I didn't know it went color...
but then again, I had a black and white set. Hey, there's an idea...
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 02:48 AM
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3. The Incredible Hulk is green, y'know.
And Michael Jackson is black.

Really, I think people ignore the color years of The Andy Griffith Show; most of the episodes from those years are just piss-poor, kind of like the Dick Sargent episodes of Bewitched.
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 03:02 AM
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5. Hey, that ain't right
I've got a color TV now, and I can tell you Michael Jackson is not black!
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 04:47 AM
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6. Okay, I admit it. He's cream.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 03:07 PM
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7. Howard Sprague, Goober, Emmitt the Fix It Man
New characters were bad news. Opie got older; Andy got crankier. No Barney, of course. Only Aunt Bee stayed the course. A much different show from the first five glorious years.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 03:12 PM
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8. Andy did get crankier, didn't he?
I noticed that when the show went to color. Like he didn't any patience with anybody else.

And also Otis disappeared around that time.
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:16 AM
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9. I agree 100%
since I quit watching the news (except cspan) in Oct. of '02, I often have TV Land on (that's where they show all of the old favorites). When I turn it on and Andy's in color, I switch the channel.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 04:40 AM
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11. Me too.
Andy without Barney is just a drag. And Helen Crump... ick.. never could stand her. I got the feeling she wanted to beat the shit out of Opie. When Barney left, Helen Crump took Andy's soul. It's as simple as that.
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CMT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 07:35 AM
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13. Andy got crankier
you really hit it on the head. I watched an episode last night from the first season (the Christmas episode) and Andy was laid-back and humorous, by season eight he was grumpy to everyone including Opie and Aunt Bee.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 03:21 AM
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10. Could be the pressure to contain costs in order to pay for the
very expensive color stuff.
It was really more of a gee-whiz thing then. Only shows with sponsors who wanted color, or shows like AGS with legs were done in color.
I think they got a new executive producer who did color work, and it was not the happy little family it had been previously.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 05:01 AM
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12. I don't think so...
They only switched to color around the same time as every other B&W show on television -- they weren't one of the pioneers. In any event, the only difference in cost would be for film stock and processing, which isn't that much of a factor in a network show with at least one big star's salary.

More likely it was just a matter of the show jumping the shark. Lots of shows seemed to get worse when they went to color, but that is only because the B&W episodes were the earlier ones when the concept and execution were fresher. By the time any of these shows switched to color, they had been around a few years and were starting to run out of ideas.

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 09:59 AM
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14. Possible, but there was a HUGE increase in costs with color
then. Not just film stock.
Sets had to be done more better, as B/W is much more forgiving than color. Designers realized that pink shirts no longer looked tan, light blue shirts did not look tan, et cetera.
Where there had been maybe 10 set people on a B/W show, especially one like Mayberry where they were outside some of the time, now there were 100 or more.

True they were not one of the pioneers. But the success of the show was counted on to fund other shows which were struggling, I am sure.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:02 AM
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15. Cast Changes, Mostly
And, i think Andy was walking through it. He only re-upped because the money was so good, he couldn't walk away from it.

Don Knotts thought Andy was quitting the show, which is why he went and signed that movie contract. (With Universal, i think.) Had he known Andy was returning, he would returned too, he's said.

Then Floyd the barber had the stroke, Jim Nabors got his own show, and the continuity fell aside.

So, add all that up, along with the fact that Andy was just marking time, and the show hit the wall all at once.
The Professor
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