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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:29 PM
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Anyone wanna help a poor bastard out (I am sad)
I kinda got the primary blues again :(. I am worried about school and all after an incident today in the library where I ran in to a teacher that I had to stay after to take a quiz, I had gone to the room but I didn't see the teacher, and I got nervous, and left, I admit I showed really bad judgement and shit, and that I could have done something different but the teacher basically called me a liar. Sigh guys. Whats wrong with me? Sigh I haven't felt more sad in a while. I'll be ok. Sigh though btw I will be gone from like 3:15-6:30
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:33 PM
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1. School can be a hassle a lot of the time
Just tell the truth. That's all you can do. Most teachers are wonderful , dedicated people, but, like in all fields, sometimes they have a bad day, too, or are not the greatest.

This too shall pass.

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:35 PM
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2. Thanks LC
I've had problems with this teacher in the past, and I tried to be polite, and I will when I get back from winter break tell her that I take full responsiblity, that I am sorry, and that I showed the worst possible judgement, I just made a mistake, and now I cant make up those quizzes. Sigh.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:37 PM
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3. Thanks the best and only thing you can do...
He or she should know that they are dealing with young adults. If a problem persists, you may need your parents to intervene.

There can be personality conflicts between students and teachers as well as co-workers, etc.

All a part of Life.

Feel better. :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:39 PM
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6. Its ok
Sigh I will survive this as I have everything. I tried not to be rude, and I will do what I promised to do, I admit my guilt and lack of judgement.
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:38 PM
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4. nothing is wrong with you john!
sometimes things will bug ya more than they should, it's all a part of the 'process'...there will come a time when simply knowing that you did not lie will be enough to carry you thru a situation like this...from what i have read from you in the short amount of time i have been here, i know you are intelligent, and thoughtful and definitely on the right track as far as backing a candidate in the primary ;)

the problem lies within the teachers mistrust not you!

chin up dude!

one love
spike
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:41 PM
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10. Thanks much
I just don't understand why, it was so rude how it happened, I was embarassed, and I told another teacher about it later, and she understood.
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:55 PM
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14. let me guess john:
this teacher is a staunch republican???

being of the political mindset you are blessed enough to have, you will hear insane, undeserved rants coming from all directions if you are brave enough to remain outspoken...think of this as practice for dealing with the close minds of the gop and religious right...

the simple fact that it bothers you tells me you have a heart, and better to have a heart to be hurt than no heart and a head full'o hypocrisy...

right??

ok then buddy

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:57 PM
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16. No its not political
Its chemistry. It's the way I was approached that pissed me off. I just cant stand that teacher.
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spychoactive Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:17 PM
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22. no i wasn't saying that
i was merely trying to get a grin on yer chin, fully realizing that democrats are vastly kinder people than republicans

you ok now dude?

"love and hate, passion and pride, these are the things that make us feel alive. if anything i want to feel them more, it's what i live for!"

-jerry joseph

one love
spike
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:46 PM
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26. I am ok I guess
I dont know, I think I'll be ok.
Thanks again everyone
Sigh its just everything piled in to one, this incident, my girlfriend or therefore lack of, my shyness, my academics, etc
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:38 PM
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5. I'm no psychiatrist
But I think you're suffering from a combination of things. None the least of which is your lack of female companionship around this holiday season.

You'll start to feel better in the New Year John. Just keep your head up and remember that you have more to offer the world than anyone in school realizes. And if they don't see it now, they'll definately see it years from now when you stroll into your 10-year high school reunion with a hot chick under each arm and your chauffeur waiting outside to take you home in your stretched limo. :)

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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:40 PM
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8. heh I wonder who that hot chick will be
:) Thats another thing bothering me too. I need to get wasted this New Years Eve, I really do.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:40 PM
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7. I find looking at my cat Abbie brings pleasant thoughts


But don't worry - it's high school. You have decades more of time to really foul up your life!!!

:D
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:40 PM
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9. Thanks
It's just been a combination of everything piled up to one big sadness.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 04:24 PM
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25. playing with my goofy cat
always makes me relax and feel better.

Cats are good, strong medicine for a bad day.
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:41 PM
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11. Ask yourself this question.....
How much will this impact my life 10, 20, 30 years from now??? Answer: Not at all.

I used to stew on things for days, weeks, etc. It isn't worth it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:44 PM
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12. Thats true but damnit, its a whole soup of shit
Thats gotten me sad.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:54 PM
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13. Saginaw (MI) Arthur Hill HS, c1972
John, I would've skated if the teacher wasn't there on time, too. Right, it might be less-than-exemplary judgement and you probably should own up to it but, hell, it's not unheard-of behavior from a high school kid.
Don't beat yourself up over it. It's the Christmas season, and there's no sense in you getting all morose over something that's already done and isn't a capital offense, anyhow. I guarantee you the teacher will have forgotten about by next Thursday, latest.
Of course, I compiled a 0.00 grade point average at Arthur Hill before taking my GED and enlisting in the Army, so you may not want to listen to me. But, in this case, I wish you would.
John
Now we gotta do something about getting you laid.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 02:56 PM
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15. Laid? I gotta get a girlfriend first
:(
I hope so, its just thats gonna fuck up my grade, I cant make it up.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:03 PM
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17. Well, yes, it's best with another person
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 03:08 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
Why don't you find a smart girl who can help you with your homework?
John
I've seen your picture. I've read your stuff here. You're smart and handsome and seem to me to be a real swell guy (really). You're also about as much of a screwup as I'd expect from some male your age (a good thing, BTW) and I'm sure there's at least one and. possibly, several girls at (Insert Name of Your) High School who hold the same generally positive thoughts about you.
Some gal's sending you the message, you're just not receiving it.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:05 PM
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18. Its the shyness I am afraid
I dunno.
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:13 PM
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20. I understand
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 03:15 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
It was different for me because I'm about as shy as a brass band. I'm not asking you to go hunting, I'm suggesting you open your eyes and your mind and your feelings and tune in a message that's out there.
Anyhow, this was about you getting your sack in a wringer because you skipped out. Own up to it and apologize profusely and go from there.
John
We're all pulling for you, but you're going to be fine. Find someone nice to help you with your homework (you should have no shortage of volunteers).
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Kanary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:34 PM
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44. I still suggest
taking some of your vacation time to read "The Highly Sensitive Person", by Elaine Aron. It's about the shyness and introverted nature, and will tell you that it's great to be who you are.

Just a suggestion for you.

Kanary
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:25 PM
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23. Go talk to the teacher after the holidays as you seem to plan doing
admit your fault as you have spoken of and ask if you could do some extra creddit work to make up fot the missed quizes. This shows responsibnility and a concern for your academics. It would be wise to have a couple of suggestions on what you could do for extra credit.
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Race4Peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:10 PM
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19. There's one of those teachers in every school
many in mine, accually
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:17 PM
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21. What you should do, IMO...
Edited on Fri Dec-19-03 03:17 PM by ih8thegop
The next time you see him/her, apologize: "Mr(s). ___, I'm so sorry I couldn't make it," etc.

The next time this happens (if it does happen again), go to the school's main office, tell them about your situation, and ask them if they know where your teacher could be. If they don't know, they could make an announcement over the public address. system or something.

Just a suggestion.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 03:56 PM
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24. Don't be rude to your teachers.
And be careful with girlfriends and high explosives.

I didn't follow any of those rules in high school or college, and it resulted in a lot of misery all around.

I had to complete my college senior thesis during summer school following my expected graduation date, because I'd pissed off my advisors, and they gave me a "no-pass." Summer school was purgatory for me, although I probably deserved much worse than the *(August) after my name on the graduation program.

If I was doing it again I'd be extremely polite to all my teachers and professors, even the ones I thought were jerks.
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sistersofmercy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 06:56 PM
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27. I'm sorry you're having a bad day
I'm not having a great week either. I hope it gets better for you. IMO it was not that teachers place to make such an accusation. Personally I can't stand being accused of something I didn't do. here's a :hug:
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:00 PM
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28. John, if something like that ever happens again, do this:
stop by the principal's office (yes, really!), leave a note for the teacher, explaining that you did remember and stopped by the room. Be nice. Then write the time on the note, and ask the secretary to put it in the teacher's mailbox. Bingo. You did the right thing, and you have a witness.
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:04 PM
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29. Hang in there dude.
This too shall pass now John.

You kind of remind me of myself, when I was your age and in high school.

Except I did not have that much shyness.

Instead I had to put up with being a non-native among the natives and that wasn't easy for me to deal with.

Sure, it's not going good now, but better days are ahead for ya.

Trust me on this one and take care...
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:04 PM
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30. Didn't you post somewhere that you have aspergers?
If that was you who said that then they need to allow you flubs like that.

Do you have an IEP?

I know a lot of AS people and when they were in school they had IEPs which gave them greater lee way in testing and stuff. Some of my friends have AS kids and one of them has it in her son's IEP that she is allowed to do his writing.

If it wasn't you who said you were had aspergers then I apologize for thinking it was....all these posts get mixed up in my head.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:34 PM
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32. Yeah I have Aspergers
I think you yuys who say this was this coming out are right. No it is ok, I think its evident that I have it. BTW I thought IEPs came with being LD and also for those who don't know I am also LD: Learning Disabled and to everyone, you're not dumb if you have one.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 09:50 AM
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34. The folks I know who have kids w/Aspergers
have gotten IEPs for their kids and the kids are not LD. They may be socially awkward but they are not LD. As a matter of fact they tend to be rather bright but in an Aspie kind of way. Aspies learn and react differently than other people which is why and IEP is often required. Sometimes extra time is needed on a test or assignment. Perhaps handwriting skills are not what is expected (one of my friends bought her son a laptop and he can submit all of his written work on his laptop or his mom can do the writing for him.)

Your parents will need to inquire about an IEP. The people I know w/Aspie kids had the IEP even before their kid entered the public school system. It's something they each hold onto with tenacity because it helps get their kid through the school system.

An IEP is not an excuse it is a tool, like school supplies.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:05 AM
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35. I feel better now but my handwriting yes isnt so hot
I know its not an exucse.
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 04:49 PM
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38. You can handwrite????
Keyboards, yes keyboards, in the top ten of all my favorite things.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:12 PM
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39. Me too
My handwriting is egregiously bad. It goes through vertiginous swirls and loops, jagged chicken-scratch, and the most claustrophobic blurs and scrunches.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:13 PM
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40. yeah my handwriting is a-w-f-u-l
heh are you and hunter hijacking my thread? I feel better now. I am expecting a phone call now, don't know if I am gonna get it, but if I do, I am going out tonight.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:20 PM
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41. No I'm trying to *kill* your thread
Hasn't been working so far. :)

I have to pack for my Colorado trip tonight, so no going out for me tonight--have to leave (and clean) my beautiful apartment and drive with my bro for about fifteen hours to Montrose on Monday. Have a good time when you go out. :hi:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:13 AM
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37. We had a guy in our High School with Aspergers
Edited on Sat Dec-20-03 11:14 AM by jpgray
He was crazy smart on the stuff he was interested in (i.e. medieval history, ancient Irish law :)), and a fun guy too--we didn't even realize he was LD until a counselor came in and let our class know. Of course he has nothing on you, Kleeb--but like we even need to tell you that. :D

edit: Spelling and grammar--perhaps I'm an undiagnosed dyslexic? ;-)
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:07 PM
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31. there's only one thing to do
Toga party!
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 07:34 PM
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33. Toga?
:shrug:
I hated wearing a tie for Homecoming dude, why would I wear a toga.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:23 PM
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42. Because togas are non-restrictive, dude
And they're fun to say! :)
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:26 PM
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43. I'd rather go dressed as I am now
I love this look.
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Breezy du Nord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:38 PM
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45. How's that?
What look?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 08:41 PM
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46. sure
flannel shirt, regular T shirt, jeans, and my DC shoes.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-03 11:10 AM
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36. TOGA TOGA TOGA
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