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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:51 AM
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Who should have won oscars for best actor and actress but
didn't? IMHO and just off the top of my head:

Harrison Ford in "The Fugitive" (it just came on HBO, I've seen it many times, and I think he was phenomenal in this film)

I know a lot of folks think that Tom Cruise is overrated but I think he should have won an oscar for "Born on the Fourth of July."

Cate Blanchett in "Elizabeth"

I'm sure there are many more.....
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La_Serpiente Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:53 AM
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1. Angels Lansbury
in either Gaslight or The Manchurian Candidate.

However, she did win an oscar for music when she was the teapot in Beauty & the Beast. Too bad her husband died this year in Janurary. They both loved each other dearly.
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tainted_chimp Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 02:41 AM
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8. From what I understand
Gaslight was her first onscreen role ever! Talk about hitting it outta the park. She's just one of those people with that innate kind of gift.

Didn't know about her husband though....so sad.

~Lisa
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:59 AM
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2. Whoopie in "The Color Purple," Warren Beatty and Annette Benning
in Bugsy
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:14 AM
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10. totally agree w/ you
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:15 AM
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11. Absolutely!
Color Purple should have gotten the oscar that year too.
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 01:59 AM
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3. Definitely...
Cate Blanchett - I'm STILL pissed that Gwyneth Paltry won.

Also Terence Stamp for "Priscilla, Queen of the Desert" deserved one, but didn't even get nominated.

The biggest travesty in Oscar history though, is that Alfred Hitchcock never won one.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 05:32 AM
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27. And Cary Grant -- NO Oscar!!!
Nominated for his work in "Penny Serenade" and "None But the Lonely Heart," two of his more serious roles, but imagine a world where Cary Grant has no Best Actor Oscar!

(He got an honorary one in 1970.)
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:25 PM
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33. He NEVER won an Oscar?
He NEVER won an Oscar? What were those people thinking? I really would've assumed he did. Espicially for "Penny Serenade", the all-time tear-inducing film ever made...
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:01 PM
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39. "Notorious," "North by Northwest"
Should have won for either. Ridiculous, isn't it?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 02:11 AM
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4. Russel Crowe in "A Beautiful Mind".
That was the equalizer for him winning it for "Gladiator", which he shouldnt have.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 02:15 AM
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7. When I left the theater after seeing Gladiator on opening night
I told my group that he deserved an Oscar for that, but that the actors' guild wouldn't have the courage to give it to him for such a subtle performance in an action flick. His performance floored me in that, and I didn't know who he was going in.

He could have gotten one for Beautiful Mind, too, and I wouldn't have objected (I don't know who won instead), but I thought his performance was more mundane, though more emotional, in Mind. Much of the character's impact in that film was because of the incredible directing.
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dontomas Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:10 AM
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37. I agree...
Crowe's Oscar for Gladiator was his make-up Oscar for Insider. But Denxel Washington had the bigger upset for not winning for The Huricane. His make-up Oscar was Training Day.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:06 PM
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42. Hurricane. Good call, he deserved one for that.
nt.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:03 AM
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23. I think the won he got for gladiator
was a commiseration for not getting one the year before for The Insider - Gladiator was cool to watch but hardly required great acting

Harvey Weinstein owes Cate Blanchett BIG TIME for the year that insipid dull Gwyneth Paltrow won - is it just me or does she plays all her roles the same??
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 02:11 AM
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5. Andy Serkis
Should have gotten a Best Supporting for his role as Gollum/Smeagol in The Two Towers.

He was on stage for every movement, they simply mapped the digital character to him. But they used his facial expressions, body language and position, everything. I don't see how it's any different than an actor who wears a lot of prosthetics to look older.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 02:13 AM
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6. Bjork
For Lars vonTrier's Dancer in the Dark. She was truly heartrending and real. Sometimes too real, I've only been able to watch the movie once. It's just too wrenching.

The people who dismiss Bjork for being too weird or flaky are really missing out on a great talent. Her music was light years ahead of its time and continually influences other artists. Unfortunately, she was so exhausted and depressed by the process that she says she won't be acting again.

It actually seemed like the academy voters knew that she should have been nominated, but instead nominated her for Best Song instead. Sad.

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moof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:10 AM
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9. Hitch for sure
Edited on Thu Dec-18-03 03:21 AM by moof
and they owe Paul about 6 but especially for "Hustler"
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 03:59 AM
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12. Bette in The ROSE
She friggen deserved it more than Sally Feilds did that year.

Bette was robbed
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 05:29 AM
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13. Agree - used to think Tom Cruise was a lightweight, but after
seeing Born on the Fourth of July...wow, magnificent job.

My favs that didn't win:

Midnight Cowboy - Dustin Hoffman was awesome in this film

Breaking Away - Indy film w/ Emily Watson. She says more w/ her eyes than speaking one word. Fabulous actress.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 06:54 AM
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14. Paul Newman deserved several
but didn't for the one he got, I didn't think.
Elen Burstyn should have won for Requiem For a Dream, instead of being aced out by Erin Brockovitch.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:09 PM
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45. I agree with Paul Newman...
and IMHO he got burned big time for not getting if for "The Hustler".
Paul was excellent in that and then 30 years later he gets one for the sequel, which was good, but certainly not up to the caliber of the original.
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cedahlia Donating Member (883 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:12 PM
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46. Ellen Burstyn...
was indeed robbed. Julia Roberts was mediocre at best in that movie (as usual.) Roberts is a huge movie star, but that does not make her a superb actress. Ellen Burstyn is a superb actress who deserved to win, and it must have been especially painful to lose to an overrated hack such as Roberts. :puke: (Sorry, my disdain for Julia is showing...I just can't understand how that woman has an Oscar and others with real acting ability don't.)
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:10 AM
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15. Ellen Burstyn in "Requiem for a Dream"
You put that role up next to Julia Roberts in "Erin Brockovich" and Ellen makes mincemeat of Ms. Roberts. The role of Sarah Goldfarb was one of the most complex and demanding roles imaginable and brought light to the fact that we all have addictions (hers was diet pills).

Runner-up is Meryl Streep last year in "Adaptation". But Meryl didn't have the advantage of a husband who would spend any amount of money to ensure his wife could win an Oscar in a lame role (that would be Catherine Zeta-Jones, who was blah in Chicago. Queen Latifah was better and more deserving in that movie). Meryl played real life novelist Susan Orlean, author of "The Orchid Thief". But in the movie adaptation of that book took some really bizarro twists thanks to Spike Jonze's innovated twist on movie adaptation of a book (Hence the title of the movie 'Adaptation').

And I still think Cate Blanchett was 1000% better than Gywneth Paltrow. "Elizabeth has to be one of my all time favorite movies"
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:19 AM
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16. Sir Ian McKellan for "Gods and Monsters"
Sir Ian was robbed that year (by that idiotic phony Italian actor)
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:55 PM
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20. true....
but I won't call Benini a phony actor. He's pretty talented. But McKellan definitely should've been rewarded for that role. I hope he'll win a trophy for playing Gandalf this year.
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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:53 AM
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30. Yes, one of the best acting jobs I've ever seen
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:36 AM
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17. Bill Murray for "Rushmore"
n/t
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:53 AM
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18. Peter O'Toole
It is criminal that he never got a non-honorary statue.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 05:21 AM
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25. Agreed! And it was his misfortune that his "Lawrence of Arabia" bid...
for Best Actor went up against -- and lost to -- Gregory Peck as Atticus finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird."

Not to take anything away from Peck, in the role of a lifetime.
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LibInternationalist Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 06:15 AM
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28. Really, they just should have given two that year
... probably two of the greatest performances ever caught on film
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:28 AM
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29. I completely agree...
Right off the bat, I can think of three different times O' Toole should have won...

"Lawrence of Arabia"

"The Lion in Winter"

"My Favorite Year"

All three wonderful perforamances were Oscar worthy.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 07:55 AM
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19. Whoopie Goldberg
in "The Color Purple." One of my favorite all-time movies.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:06 PM
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43. absolutely
Along w/ Oprah Winfrey and Danny Glover for supporting actress/actor.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-03 11:57 PM
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21. Reese Witherspoon - Election
Good call with Cate Blanchett BTW. :-)
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 12:00 AM
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22. Rosie Perez should have won best supporting for Fearless
And she wasn't even nominated.
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Grassrooter Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 01:01 AM
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24. Salma Hayek for "Frida".
I thought she was magnificent.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-03 05:28 AM
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26. Richard Burton -- nominated 7 times, but *no* Oscars...
My Cousin Rachel (1952)
The Robe (1953)
Becket (1964)
The Spy Who Came In from the Cold (1965)
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966)
Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)
Equus (1977)

One of the Academy's bigger oversights!
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 04:19 AM
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35. Yep, however...
...wingnut movie critic Michael Medved awarded him the "Golden Turkey" as the worst actor of all time. I guess Mikey didn't approve of Burton's morals...

:eyes:

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Raenelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 09:53 AM
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31. Billy Bob Thornton for Monster's Ball instead of Denzel, Training Day
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populistmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:08 PM
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32. Tim Robbins for The Shawshank Redemption
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-03 01:31 PM
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34. Willem Dafoe - Supporting Actor in 2002
for Shadow of the Vampire. It was a sorta campy movie but Dafoe's identity is lost in the character and the makeup. Excellent job, IMO.
('Course the fact that I eternally lust after Willem might make me a little bit biased ...)

Benecio Del Toro won for Traffic.


:hippie:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 10:04 AM
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36. Guy Pearce - Memento
Not even nominated.
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pdx_prog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 02:52 PM
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38. Just about anything
that Gary Sinise has done. One of the most underated actors there has ever been.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:03 PM
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40. Richard Burton & Judy Garland
Two people that never won and should have.
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:05 PM
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41. Glenn Close "Fatal Attraction"
Anyone who scares the shit out of me deserves an Oscar. The only other actor to do it, Anthony Hopkins, got one.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:06 PM
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44. Diana Ross
"Lady Sings the Blues".
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:21 PM
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47. Al Pacino should have won Best Supporting Actor in
Edited on Mon Dec-22-03 03:21 PM by notmyprez
"Donnie Brasco." It was such a great, understated performance, but it's his (an everyone's) over-the-top performances that get the attention-and the awards. He wasn't even nominated for this one. A great actor, but his only Oscar was for "Scent of a Woman." I enjoyed that performance, but he's had many much better ones. "Dog Day Afternoon" for one.

Another travesty is that one of the best contemporary directors, Martin Scorcese, has never won an Oscar! His work is phenomenal. He really should have won for "Goodfellas," and it should have won best picture as well. How they could pick "Dances with Wolves," which was extremely boring, I don't know.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-22-03 03:42 PM
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48. judy garland/a star is born lost to grace kelly/the country girl in '54
that was the worst of all of them.

garland was magnificant, but grace kelly was too beautiful to lose that year
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