Isn't Wesley a girl's name?

[Cronus Protagonist]

It seems it would fit a chick better than a dick.

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[VermontDem2004]

1. I didn't think so

I know lots of guys named Wesley and never in my life have I ever known a female named Wesley.

[JohnKleeb]

2. A gal named Wesley?

Never met one, met a guy named Wesley and he was a dickwad.
Do you by chance mean Lesley?

[trof]

3. ac/dc

either/or

[Cronus Protagonist]

7. Oh, it's one of these names

Like Leslie? (I always thought that was a stupid name for a guy as well).

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[trof]

10. Robert "Bob" Leslie Hope.

[Cronus Protagonist]

15. NO WAY! Bob Leslie Hope?

Are you telling the truth? I'm shocked. I had no idea. I knew a guy called Dana - poor guy always had people telling him they thought he would be a woman. I felt sorry for him, but he wouldn't change his name.

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[Richardo]

18. Leslie King Jr.

Better known as President Gerald R. Ford.

[Cronus Protagonist]

20. I don't buy that one

I'm not that gullible. I did have a crush on a chick called "Leslie" once. She was really interesting and serene, but nothing like Gerald Ford.

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[HawkerHurricane]

26. Leslie Groves

The general in charge of the Manhatten Project?

[Cronus Protagonist]

34. Somehow that makes him seem a little nicer

Funny how that works. If someone's called, say, Darth, you might expect a slap in the face and instead find your father, but someone could be called Leslie and be planning on blowing up millions of people with one bomb.

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[trof]

61. small boo-boo - Leslie Townes Hope

http://www.bobhope.com/bob.htm

[Crunchy Frog]

72. That's not as bad as

John "Marion" Wayne.

[ironflange]

37. Leslie Nielsen

Or anyone named "Les"

[Richardo]

4. Is it cold in L.A.?

'Cause this is flame bait.

[Cronus Protagonist]

16. You're wrong.

But that's OK. This is a big tent.

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[Richardo]

25. Bill O'Reilly? Is that you?

Let me see...quotes from your posts:

"dick"
"You're wrong"
"I'm not buying it"
"stupid"

I feel like I'm in the no-spin zone.

Go at it, Bill cronus, you're obviously getting a charge out of it. :eyes:

[Cronus Protagonist]

38. I think the pot's calling the kettle black

You took snippets of my posts out of context and used them to create a slur of your own invention.

"dick" - was written to rhyme with "chick" in the same post - referring to a male as opposed to a female.

"You're wrong" - a simple statement of fact - see the post to verify.

"I'm not buying it" - a comment about someone claiming that a US president had the name of "Leslie" but used "Gerald" instead.

"stupid" - not applied to a person, for sure, but I can't remember where I put that word, other than it would apply here if I was so inclined to use it in describing your post, which I'm not.

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[Richardo]

45. Not that you know fact from opinion ('cause you don't) but read this, Bill

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0760622.html

Just the first sentence (or even just the first eight words) will do. Don't tire yourself out trying to sound out the rest.

The rest of my list stands. You argue like O'Reilly.

[Cronus Protagonist]

50. Great! Thanks for that.

It seemed so unlikely and since it was relatively unimportant, I wasn't willing to go check. I wasn't going to buy it, prima facie. I buy it now.

And I ask you, have you ever heard O'Reilly get educated like that?

Didn't think so.

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[Richardo]

53. Peace, man.

We're cool. :hippie:

[Cronus Protagonist]

60. Thank you for being so understanding

You were partly right, though, I do argue like O'Reilly in as much as I'm fearless and willing to stand up for myself, but I do stick to facts. Since O'Really (I prefer to call him that) argues a lot on the air, almost any argument is going to trigger some similarities to his "debating style", I suppose, but I'm not obstinate, uninformed, crippled by dogma and self-hating like O'Really is, so I can usually get along with other people a little better, even during and after an argument of sorts :)

In fact, I produce some of O'Reilly's worst nightmares on the net (see http://hated.com and http://bushspeaks.com for examples).

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[1a2b3c]

5. Umm hey woops

Thats my name.

[Cronus Protagonist]

9. Sorry to hear that but you might want to edit your post

You're not allowed to call other people names on here you know.

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[1a2b3c]

17. sorry about that

I didnt mean anything by it.

[Cronus Protagonist]

24. I thought you might just have been kidding

I mean there's no point in getting serious in a light hearted thread, is there?

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[1a2b3c]

31. Yeah but i better edit

The mods might not realize i was kidding like you did. :-)

[Cronus Protagonist]

40. Aren't you a moderator?

I thought you were. I can't find a moderator list on DU now. It seems to be missing.

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[Cronus Protagonist]

49. Found the moderator page

You're not a moderator after all - I'm sure you'll be pleased to know :)

Although it seems the page is outdated, as all the moderators are supposed to serve only until September 2003 and it's already December.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/forums/moderators.html

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[1a2b3c]

59. One of these days

They might let me baby sit on DU.

[eyesroll]

6. Wesley Crusher, Wesley Wyndham-Price,

OK...so the only Wesleys I can think of are fictional nerds.

But they're still men.

[Cronus Protagonist]

12. Oh yeah, Wesley Crusher

I liked that part on STNG it added some interesting scenarios to the mix.

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[IMOK_UROK2]

27. And look at what Crusher managed to do.

In only a couple of years went from Starfleet to more powerful than the human race itself. Not bad for someone just into puberty :)

I'd say (in spite of the fact that he was one of the more unpopular people, he sure did some manly things) like hitting on the queen of another planet, and evolving to the point of "Q" like status O8)

[Cronus Protagonist]

44. Yeah, he brought a level of unpredictability to the shows

Where most of the cast members have a rigid personality structure in place, Wesley could gambol around like a typical teenager and create all kinds of fun situations. I never figured out what people disliked about that character.

I wonder if it was because of the mother/son relationship that they kept harping over.... I suspect that might have turned people off him a bit.

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[IMOK_UROK2]

52. Probably part of it.

I also think part of it was because he kind of moved up in the ranks druing his stay on the ship without the normal training, and his age. (sorry about getting so off topic folks).. But I didn't really didn't understand the dislike of his character either, except for those reasons mentioned. Now back to the topic :)

[HawkerHurricane]

28. How about Wesley, The Duke of Wellington

Yes, that Duke of Wellington.

(oops, that's Wellesley. But he was Wesley to his friends)

[geniph]

68. No, he was Arthur to his friends

the family's last name was originally Wesley, changed later to Wellesley. His name was Arthur Wesley/Wellesley.

[Booberdawg]

8. No wonder you didn't want to put this in GD

:eyes:

No, Wesley is more commonly a man's name.

[Cronus Protagonist]

13. Not allowed to put it in GD

You should know that.

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[Booberdawg]

19. Riiight, because it's inflammatory, pointless flame bait

[Cronus Protagonist]

22. You should apply to be a moderator

I hear they're looking for good people like you :)

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[Booberdawg]

29. I don't have to. I'm entitled to give my opinion without being a moderator

You put it up there asking for a response, and you got my unabridged opinion. You are not entitled to a sugar coated opinion if it's not what you want to hear. Sorry.

[Cronus Protagonist]

47. I didn't ask for a sugar coated opinion

I just thought you might like to apply for a moderator position. You seem to have a sufficiently rigid interpretation of the rules, albeit with a little self-serving slant that you would have to work on.

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[IMOK_UROK2]

48. Origin of names?

according to the following web page:
http://www.babychatter.com/wboy.html
It is a boy/man's name and is "Anglo Saxon" and the meaning of the name is "Man from the West".
But then I only looked at 2 web searches and both said the same basic thing. But really. What does a name have to to with a persons character. Carol O'conner, Leslie Nealson. Heck Jonny Cash was a boy named Sue :)

[SheepyMcSheepster]

11. what a pointless topic

n/t

[Cronus Protagonist]

14. Have you read the rest of the "offerings" here in the lounge?

And you think only this one is pointless? Or did you post that bon mot in every thread in this forum?

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

21. Then why post here?Or are you trying to insult as many people as possible?

[Cronus Protagonist]

23. Who am I insulting?

I need a list. I suspect you and one other are the only people on it, but I'd like to confirm.

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

30. The Lounge, perhaps?

[Cronus Protagonist]

32. And you speak for the entire lounge?

I remember a long time ago when a personal vanity post would just be a rollicking fun ride of wacky input. What's your name? Gail?

BTW - your moniker is very apt.

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

35. If you're trying to be funny, as you claim, please try harder.

[Screaming Lord Byron]

41. Maybe you don't realise we're reading 'dick' as an insult.

[Cronus Protagonist]

46. I'm not responsible for your interepretations

I used it because it rhymes with "chick", which taken out of context could also be an insult. Although I don't see any posts from women taking it out of context here.

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[Cronus Protagonist]

42. Work with me on it then.

:)

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[Screaming Lord Byron]

43. OK. I read it as you calling Clark a dick. Was that your intention?

[Cronus Protagonist]

51. What? This is about "WESLEY" in general, not Wesley THE general

I think you're reading between the lines a little too much and you're not much good at reading other people's minds.

I suppose Wesley Clark, since you bring him up now, might have had to take some teasing when he was little. I'm sure he's better off for it too. It probably made him stronger.

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[aquart]

33. John Wesley - 1703-91 - Founder of the Methodist Church.

It's a godly name.

John Wesley Hardin notwithstanding.

[Lars39]

36. Originally there were a lot of guys named Wesley

in the south after the preacher John Wesley, then the name just became a family name that crops up generationally.

[Sinistrous]

39. Not according to the Name Statistics site

http://www.namestatistics.com/index.php

Wesley is the #171 most common male name.
0.104% of men in the US are named Wesley.
Around 127400 US men are named Wesley!


Wesley is the #3455 most common female name.
0.001% of females in the US are named Wesley.
Around 1275 US females are named Wesley!

Edited to add link.

[Cronus Protagonist]

54. Well, that settles it then

Wesley is more popular for a boy than for a girl. I wonder how many girls are called "Frank".

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[toddzilla]

55. i can't believe this hasn't been locked yet.

what a fucking, complete and total waste of bandwidth to post something like this. Sometimes i think we would be better off if candidate bashers would just fuckin vote republican instead of inciting hatred and idiocy in our ranks.


be offended, hide behind your bullshit, i have no respect for someone who would post something like this.

[Cronus Protagonist]

58. Why are you so pissed off?

You seem overly angry about a simple vanity thead in The Lounge - what's got your goat, dude?

As for a waste of bandwidth - have you even looked at the other threads in the Lounge? This thread is no worse or better than 90% of them.

As for me voting republican, I presume you don't know me, because if you did, you'd know I support Kucinich, Dean and Clark in that order. And I run, host and develop some of the most popular anti-bush sites on the net. You're way off base here. Try to calm down, sip some coffee and look on this as a light-hearted fun thread. You'll spare yourself some trouble and we'll all benefit from not having to see your vitriolic posts which are much ado about nothing.

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[toddzilla]

64. whatever...

:eyes:

I guess you think this whole thread is just an innocent question?

spare me your bullshit.

[DS1]

77. uuhh, I just wasted bandwidth, ask me anything?

LOL wow Cronus, I gotta hand it to ya, the reactions to this thread are funny, especially for the lounge

[Cronus Protagonist]

56. About girls named Frank

Frank is the #31 most common male name.
0.581% of men in the US are named Frank.
Around 711725 US men are named Frank!

Frank is the #2691 most common female name.
0.002% of females in the US are named Frank.
Around 2550 US females are named Frank!

- so there are more females named Frank than there are females named Wesley. I think the only conclusion one can come to is that Wesley is less of a girls name than Frank.

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[Richardo]

57. OK that's pretty funny...

...and I never thought I'd say that when this thread started.

[Cronus Protagonist]

63. Well, the facts are undeniable - Wesley is less of a girls name than Frank

Sometimes one has to defer to facts :)

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[citizen snips]

62. You know I really never thought about it.

Good question.

[Jerseycoa]

65. Is this a serious question?

Oh, this is the lounge. Have fun. :P

[ohiosmith]

66. Maybe if you talk like Elmer Fudd.

[Cronus Protagonist]

70. heh :)

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[amazona]

67. no way

I've known several Wesley's. All were guys.

[haele]

69. Both Wesley and Leslie started out as last names.

Along with names like Sidney and Finley (on edit - and Hillary)- and Harper, etc... (I'm mainly picking on the "ey" ending names here).

From what I understand, last names and place names used as "first/middle names" or "christian names" are generally considered gender-nuetral in the english language. The only time gender comes into play is when using a traditional name, such as Elizabeth or Carl - or adding a diminutive on a name, such as an "a" (as in Carla), or an "ette" variant(as in Carlotte) which will generally make an otherwise traditional masculine name feminine.
Heck,I knew a poor guy from a "traditional family" who had "Freddie Dale XXXX(last name not used here)on his birth certificate - is that a boy's name or a girl's name?

There are also made up names, like "Rayleen"(F) or "Levon" (M), are usually names that come from mixing elements the mother and father's names - "Ray and Coleen" or "Lee and Vonda" - both these names are from actual record.
And then, of course, you have names like "Billy Joe" and "Peggy Sue" - as well as "Madison", "Scout", "River", "Raine", "Parliment", "Fourth of May"...all names that have been picked by the parent(s) just because they liked the sound on the birth certificate...

Hey, it's not like we're in France, where there's laws against naming your kid something that they might get ridiculed for it later on...

Haele

[Cronus Protagonist]

71. Are there really laws in France about naming kids?

Surely you jest!

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[haele]

73. It's my understanding from those I know who grew up in France -

At least back in the 1960's and 1970's it was law that names of the French-born citizens had to come from the French Christian calendar, although "the local registry" could exercise a local option in accepting names.
Point of interest from back when I was involved in SCA heraldry (which included history of naming practices)- a few years ago - late 1990's, don't remember the exact year - the Boston Globe had a human interest story about a Parisian couple who were not able to name their girl "Cerise" or Cherry, becuase it was against the law there.

Haele

[Cronus Protagonist]

74. Zut Alors!

I'm flabberghasted that France, the bastion of civil protest and left-wing insurrection would make such a law.

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[Rowdyboy]

75. Germans can deny you the right to name your child anything

irregular.

Hitler and Jordan are not acceptable-among many

http://www.awchamburg.org/AWCH_GettingSettled/AWCH_Child_Family/AWCH_Name_Reg.html

[no_hypocrisy]

76. Maybe if you're born into a WASP household it is.

n/t