This baseball fan feels no guilt.

[Blue_Tires]

"Baseball is reality. Religion we made up.

I don't expect non-Mets fans to understand - and maybe it takes a viewer of the 2000 World Series debacle to understand humanity this way, but I've been remembering tonight something that's been debated for years: why did they allow Roger Clemens to chuck a broken bat shard at team captain Mike Piazza with NO retaliation?

Tonight the answer hit me: because they were civilized enough not to imagine they could be run out of town by those piece-of-shit Yankees.

But that trick only works once.

So while other fans here wring their hands at how the Mets are running away in the NL East, I observe calmly. For anyone who knows Mets history, the players are playing their roles according to strategy and the conclusion looks promising: you only have to win 11 postseason games to once again wear the title of WORLD CHAMPIONS!"

[_testify_]

1. Great post.

I just finished reading that post in GD!

Think Omar will make any trades this week? As long as it's Livan Hernandez I'll be happy.

I'd trade Heilman and Milledge for Dontrelle though.

[Blue_Tires]

2. lol

i tried to put this in that thread before it vanished....

heilman can go, but we need to keep Lastings (his stock can only go up!)

[_testify_]

4. I know, but part of me says trade him to a crap market

then sign him as a FA in 3 years.

I bet we get Kazmir back when he becomes a free agent!

Speaking of, could you imagine Pedro-Glavine-Kazmir-Trachsel-Pelfrey as a rotation? *sigh*

[Reverend_Smitty]

6. I don't know if I would give up Milledge

that kid can be a big contributor in the upcoming years. I'm still pissed off about giving up Kazmir

[Reverend_Smitty]

3. This is the first time in a really long time...

that I've felt that the Mets would win it all. I was too young in 86, so I didn't get to experience that summer where they just dominated the NL. In 2000 I felt that they were just happy to make the series and if they won it would be a pleasant surprise. But this year they have all the role players and that "it factor" that all championship caliber teams possess

[_testify_]

5. You can tell we're the real deal

because our bench produces. That's what the 'it factor' is, IMO...

[Reverend_Smitty]

7. I know

I can't believe the production we've been getting out of Chavez and the leadership of Franco...Plus who would have thought Jose Valentin would be having a career year taking over for Matsui?

[_testify_]

9. I'm the first to admit

I hated the Valentin signing, and I was screaming for them to release him when he was like 0-fer-17 in April.

I was wrong. I love the 'Stache now.

[Oeditpus Rex]

8. It's all because of X Nady

Who's a local boy, I happily add.

[Reverend_Smitty]

14. I like him too...

It's a shame he had that stint on the DL, it kind of threw him out of rhythm for a few weeks, but lately he's been coming around and putting up good numbers. It's a good sign for your team when your line-up is so stacked that you can put a guy like Nady 7th or 8th in the line-up

[Oeditpus Rex]

21. It should've been a good sign for San Diego

that they couldn't find a place for him to play regularly. But it didn't turn out that way. :P

I wrote a couple stories on him when he played high school ball. He hit something like .578 his senior year. I had the good fortune of doing one of the stories at a game in which he had nine RBI, including a grand slam, to win a city-wide tournament.

They had him at shortstop then, though — I think simply because they didn't have anybody else who could play short. He was no wiz with the glove, though.

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23. His glove is still a weak point.

But he's a cool guy - isn't he like the umpteenth Xavier Nady in his family?

[Oeditpus Rex]

28. Dunno about that

Although now that you mention it, it does seem like he told me he was Xavier Nady IV or somethin', but don't quote me.

He was a nice guy in high school, yeah — composed, easy to talk to, not like most kids that age. But I haven't seen him since then.

[reyd reid reed]

26. Uh huh.

But My Barret....

:D

[Oeditpus Rex]

29. ...is a local boy?

:hug:

[reyd reid reed]

31. Better...

He's Mine.

Figuratively speaking.

Batting .335, went 2-5 tonight with 2 runs scored, 1 RBI and a HR. Nady does have one more RBI than My Barrett does, though.

Okay...carry on.

:hug:

[Oeditpus Rex]

33. How many yaks does Barrett have?

Last I heard, Nady had... was it 15? He got one shortly after he came off the DL.




I s'pose I could just look it up for myself, huh? :silly:

[reyd reid reed]

43. Yeah...Nady's got four more...

My Barrett has 11.

BUT...you have to realize that he was a naughty boy and got grounded for ten days and that cost him. If it wasn't for that, he'd be yakkin' all over the place.

Right, left and center.

:D

[Oeditpus Rex]

44. I was off by one

Nady has 14, with one more RBI than Barrett.

He's played in 72 games (252 ABs). Barrett's been in 75 (263).

:P

[WeRQ4U]

10. My Twinkies are doing their dardest to help the Yankees fail this season.

If the Twins were able to pull off the wild card this season by beating both the White Sox AND the Yanks in the race, I would consider this season one of the best ever for the franchise regardless of what happened after that.

They too are winning with role players, situation hitting and stingy pitching.

[_testify_]

12. How ridiculous is it to win 19 of 20

and only gain a game in the standings?

The Twins are no joke!

[WeRQ4U]

16. That was nuts.

But they didn't give in to it. They've now won 12 of 14 after the break and gained 7 games in the wild card race. The are indeed, for real.

[Blue-Jay]

11. I miss baseball.

Free agency ruined the sport.

[_testify_]

13. Miss the days when the players were property of their team?

:)

[Blue-Jay]

18. Yes. Way to miss the point.

[_testify_]

20. I know, I know

Everyone misses the days when so-and-so was a Yankee/Dodger/Redleg for life...

[Blue-Jay]

24. I miss the days of shopping at the company store.

Tennessee Ernie Ford be damned. They had great deals on boots.

[LSdemocrat]

40. I sometimes think that, then I remember the movie "Eight Men Out"

If someone is going to make tons of money off of baseball, I'd rather it be the players rather than owners. Although baseball desperately does need more revenue sharing and some sort of controls to prevent excessive total team salaries.

[bluestateguy]

15. The Mets have had their share of punks before too

Lenny Dykstra, Kevin Mitchell, Daryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Vince Coleman.

Though I see what you are saying.

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19. Don't forget Bobby Bonilla (twice)

[Reverend_Smitty]

22. ugh Bobby Bonilla was a real piece of work...

quite possibly my least favorite Met of all time...what an ass that guy was

[_testify_]

25. Yeah, he was a shit-head. We'll be paying his last contract

until 2030. Fucker.


My favorite Met when I was a kid was Mackey Sasser, if you remember him and the embarassing mental problem he had.

[Reverend_Smitty]

27. lol, yes his inability to throw the ball back to the pitcher

I was always a fan of Sid Fernandez and Todd Hundley as a kid

[_testify_]

30. Todd Hundley was awesome

but ya know he was juicing.

[Reverend_Smitty]

32. It's an unfortunate fact I'd like to overlook

but yeah a guy with his ability suddenly hits 41 home runs in one year only points to one thing. Still he kicked ass in 96 when there wasn't much else to cheer for

[_testify_]

34. So are you a native NYer? or Tri-state area?

I was born and raised in Queens. Miss the hell out of it sometimes.

[Reverend_Smitty]

36. Born and raised in NJ

I've been to Shea twice in my life (we drove both times and remembered why it was 10 years between trips...lol, maybe we should take the train next time) Ironically enough both games were against the Marlins and we lost both times. I've seen them beat the Phillies scores of times at the Vet/Citizen's Bank though.

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38. Mets fans at the Phillies games rock

How embarassing for them to have half the damn place full of us savages,eh?

[Reverend_Smitty]

39. I was at a game earlier this year

and it was quite fun when our cheers drowned out theirs

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35. Mackey Sasser does have a bit of Mets history to call his own.

He is the only Mets catcher to have thrown out Vince Coleman.

[Reverend_Smitty]

37. lol...wow...that's quite a tall order

Coleman back in the day was almost impossible to throw out, yeah I never would have guessed that he would be the one to do it

[Blue_Tires]

41. lol

this thread is actually intended to be a humorous copycat of a (deleted) flamewar in GD tonight--I just switched 'Mets' and other baseball metaphors in for 'Israel' and the ME conflict...:crazy: :hide: :yoiks:

[pitohui]

17. you wrong

but damn that's funny :-)

[genieroze]

42. Oh Gawd, I'm a Mets fan and my hubby and sons are Yankee fans.

I watch the Yankees and will support them over any other team but the Mets and boy do I get the evil eye. They all wear their Yankees T shirts and I wear my Mets one. We are all on agreement about the Red Sox, no comment I don't want to start a war.