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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:03 PM Original message |
Most Self-Indulgent, God-Awful, Used-to-be-Good Author? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. So who is it? For God's sake, woman, name names. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Good Lord, man! I can't admit to reading that junk! |
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conflictgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
35. Oh, she's awful! |
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Arkham House (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. Steven King |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. He keeps recycling the same old characters and plots. |
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deucemagnet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. I can excuse some level of recycling on King's part... |
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Misunderestimator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
87. And wtf is his fascination with the dissociative "fugue" state? |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:37 AM Response to Reply #2 |
41. No way!! Anything he writes is wonderful. |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. Ditto. I can't even stand his columns in Entertainment Wkly |
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El Fuego (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:44 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Dupe. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
57. He needs a decent editor that he'll allow to actually EDIT |
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anarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. you'll probably appreciate this, then: |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. I actually admits he doesn't remember writing some books. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. Not to speak ill of the dead, BUT |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It must be really hard not to buy into your own hype. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. But then again, who is? |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. TomCruise. |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. You shoulda said "Travolta". |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Kirstie? Is that you? |
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Arkham House (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Heinlein came to my mind, too... |
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deucemagnet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Yes. I enjoyed his earlier stuff... |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
19. First name that came to my mind as well. |
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YankeyMCC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
75. I reluctantly have to agree |
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reyd reid reed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
10. Ann Rice. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Her words are perfect! She's above the need for an editor! |
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reyd reid reed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Heh... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
46. I enjoyed "Interview with the Vampire"... |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
69. Howard Allen O'Brien |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
74. Was I the only one to find her "Sleeping Beauty" porn books awful? |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. is it laurel hamilton? (ok i just read the rest of the thread!) |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 10:59 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. The first ones where mysteries with vampires and werewolves. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:25 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The first few books were pretty good |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I kept looking for all of the old characters. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:43 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. I gave up a few books back |
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Flaxbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. haven't read anything of his in a long time, but Tom Clancy's name |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
21. Patricia Cornwell |
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reyd reid reed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:48 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. She's lost all touch with reality, I think... |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
36. Can't stand Cornwell... |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
81. ah it's not just me |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
42. On a personal level: she's nuts, and a self-loathing lesbian |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
62. What did you think of the recent movie about the Ripper, From Hell? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:24 AM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Second that! nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
22. If you mean who I think you mean, she just keeps getting worse, doesn't |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. It's like finding "Porn of the Rings" in a Lord of the Rings rental box |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Terry Goodkind's "Sword of Truth" (Load of Crap) series |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. David Eddings has a little of the same disease. |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The mysogynism of Eddings' books paled in comparison to Goodkind. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
67. I don't remember those as misogynistic |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
90. Spousal rape and entrapment were minor, but telling parts. |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-12-06 09:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
100. Spousal rape? |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Did you notice how his lead character became the same enemy he fought |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:20 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yes! |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. The book is also useful for chasing away solicitors. |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:55 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Yes. I found myself skipping whole pages of text. |
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jobycom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
78. Wow, I'm flattered |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:52 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Yeah, Goodkind's world is full of strawmen. |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-10-06 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. Tom Wolfe..... |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I agree on Irving,,,, I was going to post his name. |
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femmocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 07:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Nicholas Evans has gone downhill since |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
94. Widow for a year was pretty good..... |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:28 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. I think Tom Wolfe sold his soul to the devil in exchange for... |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. I disliked his last two, but I don't know why |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. I hated Charlotte Simmons for the same reason that I hate... |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:58 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. ....while drunk or high to the point of oblivion. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:04 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. That too. |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. No, once a nice virgin like Charlotte has sex |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:36 PM Response to Reply #56 |
95. I really liked Bonfire.... |
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nosillies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:31 AM Response to Reply #29 |
52. I was going to say Irving also |
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WCGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:37 PM Response to Reply #52 |
96. I never read the circus book.... |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
37. Thomas Harris. |
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long_green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
64. No book pissed me off more than Hannibal |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:41 AM Response to Original message |
38. Also--E. Lynn Harris' later stuff is sooooo terrible. |
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BreweryYardRat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:59 AM Response to Original message |
39. Robert Jordan. |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:26 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Agreed.... |
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Tyrone Slothrop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
65. He never finished that? |
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SteppingRazor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Nope -- Unbelievably enough, he is still writing books in the series... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. He may finally get the plot moving |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:37 PM Response to Reply #76 |
93. Thank goodness! |
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xmas74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:36 PM Response to Reply #39 |
92. Jordan was my first thought. |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
98. Can't stand the man |
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AmyDeLune (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
40. Mercedes Lackey |
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Godhumor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:57 PM Response to Reply #40 |
97. I never really liked her stuff, but she is a neat person |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:13 AM Response to Original message |
47. Jean Auel..her last book just did NOT measure up, IMHO |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:33 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. "Plains of Passage" was the last book of hers I tried to read... |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
66. I love the Clan books, ever since we read one for a high school |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
48. Anne Perry. I liked her stuff at one time, but tired of it at least |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:59 AM Response to Reply #48 |
61. I liked Sue Grafton through G or H... |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:04 PM Response to Reply #61 |
82. hmm, Grafton still has a pretty good wit |
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Phillycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
60. Anne Rice |
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ScreamingMeemie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
68. Mary Higgins Clark... |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
73. Of course, nobody will admit to reading these books |
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bluethruandthru (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Janet Evanovich lost it! |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
80. Patricia Cornwell |
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progmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
83. I'd say Stephen King |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:33 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Stephen King's the first name that popped into my head |
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newcriminal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 02:47 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. my favorite writer |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. I liked his stuff up until and including The Stand, after that |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 03:21 PM Response to Original message |
89. Let's see here |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
91. Orson Scott Card |
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mucifer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-11-06 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
99. Bob Woodward |
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101. Michael Crichton |
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