It's the "Harry Potter: Is he dead or not?" Thread

[Writer]

C'mon, readers, start waging your bets.

I'm putting $100 on one dead Harry Potter in Chapter 30. What say you?

[auntAgonist]

1. no no no no no no no!

I wonder when the next book is due out and WHEN the movie of "The half blood prince" will be made.

I'm so impatient.

aA
:hi:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

23. No idea about the book...

but the "Order of the Pheonix" will be out in July of 2007.

Can't wait. :D

[auntAgonist]

25. That's going to be a good one I think.

I have a lot of trouble just sitting and reading the books, but I've no trouble at all listening to them on audio CD's. I really enjoy the movies too. I have a job that allows me to listen while I work. At home there's hardly any time for reading. works out good for me.

:hug;

aA

[Hell Hath No Fury]

39. I am one of those freaks...

who shows up at Costco the day the book goes on sale then rushes home and reads it in one sitting. :D I get the full-on "Harry Potter Headache" from 14 straight hours of reading.

Did I mention I'm 46? Ha!

:hi:


BTW, who does the reading for the books on tape? Anyone with a great voice? If it were Alan Rickman (sigh!), I'd lock myself in the bathroom, light the candles and spend the evening listening to him read. Who needs sex????

[auntAgonist]

46. the narrator is Jim Dale He is FANTASTIC

He does all the voices so well that there is no mistaking who is 'talking'. He really keeps your interest. You'd swear there was more than one person doing the voices.

aA

btw I'm 49 heh

:hi:

[bedazzled]

40. isn't the fellow who reads for the cd's fabulous?

i like to listen while i'm working around the house, and my son likes to, also. unfortunately, i usually end
up sitting and listening so i don't miss anything!

it's hard to believe that he does all of the voices -- he's magic, he really is

[auntAgonist]

47. he's amazing. His name is Jim Dale.

As I said upthread, he's so good you'd think there was more than one reader.


:hi:
aA

[deucemagnet]

2. Harry's deader than a doornail.

Because of the Harry/Voldemort connection, I think it's vital to the plot that Harry sacrifice himself in order to destroy Voldemort. Harry's a goner.

[China_cat]

12. They either both have to live

or they both have to die...no other choices. It's sort of like Siamese twins that can't be separated. When one goes, it takes the other with it.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. JKRowling wouldn't DARE!

The mob would be howling for HER blood if she dared kill Harry off!

NO WAY!



:mad:

[Liberal Veteran]

6. But she has to. Otherwise we'll have to have really bad adult books...

...Like Harry Potter and The Child Support Payments or Harry Potter and the Colostomy Bag.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

8. ......

:cry: :cry: :cry:

[tigereye]

13. he he

:rofl:

um, probably it would be more like Margaret Drabble. ( a fine writer in her own right)

[Liberal Veteran]

4. My prediction for the two deaths....

Snape and Potter.

[deucemagnet]

5. I have to go for the obvious...

...Harry and Voldemort.

[Liberal Veteran]

7. I think Voldemort is a gimme.

The villain will die, but I think there will be two other people who die.

[Writer]

10. Welcome to DU, btw!

:hi:

[deucemagnet]

11. Thanks! But I'm actually an old-timer who needed a change.

If only it were this easy to shed your skin in real life! :hi:

[mvd]

9. I think if Harry was going to die..

she wouldn't be hinting like he is. I say he survives. But Ron and Hermione are in danger IMO.

[RevolutionaryActs]

15. She can kill Harry, I don't care. But if she kills Ron.. I'll be pissed!!

OMG

She can't kill Ron. :cry:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

58. She can't kill any of the Weasleys.

They are my favorite and they can't be killed, or I'll want some blood of my own.
Duckie

[hyphenate]

67. I wouldn't mind if Percy

gets knocked off, the little traitor!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

68. Oh, I forgot about him....

He's not a REAL Weasley.
Duckie

[deadparrot]

14. I definitely think at least one of the trio (and/or Ginny) will go.

Over the course of the series, the characters that have died have played progressively larger and larger parts in Harry's life. Besides, if Harry defeats Voldemort and he, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny survive, it seems like far too fluffy an ending, IMHO. The victory (if it happens) would almost have to be bittersweet.

[uppityperson]

16. um, he's a fictional character, not really alive.

sorry. Is his scar a horocrux?

[Writer]

17. uppity, watch your mouth!

A character never thrives in a tale unless he or she lives in the mind of the writer.

Harry Potter LIVES... er, for now at least...

[uppityperson]

36. I know, just being uppity. Here's a question for you re Dumbledore

So what if he's dead. He is still in the portrait so can talk and help and do all of that, right? I mean all those other dead guys in portraits do, so why not Dumbledore? His mobility is limited, but he can still be of a big help, right?

[Writer]

38. I think Harry should awaken in a London flat in Chapter 36...

half-dressed, shaking off a horrible nightmare, realizing that Dumbledore is showering in the adjacent bathroom.

:wow:

[Arkham House]

45. Maybe he should wake up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?

[Writer]

18. Kick for the daytime crowd...

:kick:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

19. I say both Harry and Voldemort are gone.

:evilgrin:

If Harry survives, then one of the Ron/Hermione/Ginny group is out. No way is Rowling going to let Voldemort die AND R/Her/Har/G ALL survive. In fact, I'd be angry if she did. It would be such a cliched ending...

:)

[liontamer]

20. my take

Harry lives, Ginny lives, Ron dies(hermione may day but they won't both die) Dumbledore turns out to be alive.

Dobby ends up being the linchpin, and winky dies.

[freethought]

21. OK, I'll jump in!

J.K. Rowling says that two charecters die. Didn't specify if they were good or bad.
Harry, Ron, and Hermione wind up OK. The two that bite the dust are Voldemort and Dumbledore.
I think it would be just too extreme to kill off Harry, Ron, or Hermoine.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

59. Dumbledor's already dead.

Pick another one.
Duckie

[Hell Hath No Fury]

22. No, Harry lives...

the prophecy said something to the effect that one of them would have to die for the other to live.

Voldie is toast, that's a given.

My thought is Snape will be the other -- he will die in service to Harry and the Order, which will be ironic considering how much he hates Harry and has been cast as the villian in all the books.

My other suspicion is that Ron Weasley may be toast -- he's had "dead meat" written on him since the first book. This will mirror the tragedy of Harry's father's life, when he lost so many friends in the fight against Voldie the frist time. I remember the photo that showed James, Lily, and the other members of the original Order -- I think is was Sirius who was telling Harry what happened to each of them. Dead, insane, or jailed.

[NNadir]

24. That is a relatively satisfying ending but I know definitively who dies.

Everybody dies. No more books are to be written. After the seventh book...

Harry Potter is no more.

Ginny is no more.

The other Weasleys are no more.

Hermione, Snape, Professor McGonagle... all dead.

The magical world as a whole is kaput.

Well, Voldemort lives on. He's currently the acting Vice-President of the United States.

[Book Lover]

26. I think Harry will live

but like many others here I think Ron and Snape are going to not make it. I don't think Hermoine will get killed. And sadly, I think Dumbledore's portrait is the only way we are going to have contact with the man from now on...

[Neoma]

27. It'd be sad if one of the twins died...

But i'd bet it would happen.

[xmas74]

30. I could see the twins dying.

Top choice there. They are mischief makers and do not heed advice. They like danger.

I see their deaths in the future.

[Neoma]

32. I mean only one of the twins.

Then the other one going off to revenge him....yeah okay i see both dying.

[xmas74]

35. That's kind of how I meant it.

And I can see that happening early in the book, not later.

I think we both see a similar thing happening here.

[Neoma]

28. I don't think Harry will die btw.

[Phillycat]

29. Voldemort and Snape will die

But Snape will be proved a good guy before he dies. Mark my words.

The only monkey wrench in my theory - Harry might be a Horcrux. In which case I don't know how Rowling can keep him alive.

[xmas74]

31. She says he's not.

At least in past interviews. She said that a horcrux has to be an object and cannot be a person. So the scar cannot be a horcrux.

[uppityperson]

57. But isn't that snake maybe a horcrux?

I recall something from the last book about her maybe being one. If a snake, why not a human?

[xmas74]

61. I don't know.

The only thing I do know is that she has repeatedly denied that Harry is a horcrux. She says that humans cannot be, unless she changes her mind at the last minute in this book.

[deucemagnet]

44. Snape is an evil rat bastard.

He used the killing curse on Dumbledore, and as we learned in the final chapters of TOotP, you have to have malice in your heart in order for a forbidden curse to work.

[Phillycat]

49. Dumbledore begged him to

He did not want to kill Dumbledore. Dumbledore had to beg him to do it. He also protected Harry from the cruciatux curse as he was running away. There is no way Snape is a bad guy after all this. No way.

[NewWaveChick1981]

33. According to a quote from Rowling that I read,

one of the characters who seemingly will die will have a reprieve. I don't think Harry will die, but I am certain Voldemort will and probably Neville.

[newcriminal]

34. I think it should be Ginny

she's a hussy, and harry is mine anyway. Ginny dies and Hary kills Voldermort in the first chapter,so the real story begins. See the seventh book is really about this much older professor that he falls in love with, and they live happily ever after.

[achtung_circus]

51. An American professor?

From, say, I don't know, random guess, Milford, PA?

[Divameow77]

37. Rowling has to remember who her audience is

and it includes children. She has to be careful if she is going to kill off such a beloved character.

[XemaSab]

41. I think she will pull no punches

Apparently her husband was shocked and upset at one of the deaths.

[XemaSab]

42. Here's what mugglenet has to say about it

http:// www.mugglenet. com/viewer/?image_location= usatodayodds.gif (remove spaces and paste)

I personally would rate Snape WAY higher, and there would be a lot of people who weren't in the poll that I think wouold be worth asking about, such as Hagrid and Neville.

[intheflow]

52. Yeah, where's Ginny in that poll?

I think as the love interest who Harry broke up with to protect, she's a very good candidate.

[Broken_Hero]

43. nope

my money is on Severus Snape, and Voldemort....:)


On edit: I see it going down like this...Voldemort and Harry are fighting, Harry is losing...Snape, all the way through the book, has realized, that he has made a mistake in rejoining The Death Eater's ranks....and when voldemort goes in for the killer curse, snape jumps in to save him, and takes the death curse on the chin...voldemort, is surprised, and harry death curses voldemort...end of story...

I do not think, that harry/voldemort are as connected as what some people think...i don't think harry is the last horcrux either....its all about RAB...Regulas A. Black, Sirius's brother.....

[riderinthestorm]

48. Neville Longbottom is the key

Remember he shares the same b-day as Harry? So Dumbledore said that one of them was the ultimate adversary of Voldemort? DUMBLEDORE states that he believes Harry is the chosen adversary, but I'd bet Neville has some hidden scar (ala "the identifying marker" via Voldemort that indicates who is the "one") from when his parents were tortured.

Well, Neville's been gaining in a quiet strength and slowly toughening up over the course of the books. In fact, his skills at handling the Dark Arts classes that Harry teaches are always commented upon by both Harry and others' throughout.

Only Voldemort will die. The surprise is going to be that Neville is the real hero and Harry is secondary. I predict that both of them will survive, as well as Hermione and the entire Weasley clan, although the Weasley twins will play a large role in Voldemort's ultimate defeat

[Broken_Hero]

50. true

it could go any way, I can't wait until the next/last book is out...

[LeftyMom]

54. That's my thought

It explains why Neville starts out so scared, builds up a sort of quiet determination, and why his grandmother drives him so.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

60. Actually, he said that Voldemort marked Harry his adversary...

Harry wanted to believe it was Neville too...but Voldemort chose the one most like him, the one who wasn't pure blood. Neville will be pissed off and will probably have a hand in his death, but Harry is the one....NOT neville.
Duckie

[Generic Brad]

64. And Neville does have a scar

Because of the way his parents were tortured, he has deep emotional scars. My vote is for Longbottom and Voldemort to bite the big one.

[intheflow]

53. Harry won't die because no one would ever go see the final movie.

I mean, who wants to go through that kind of trauma twice--once on the page, and again in the theaters? Only the Malfoy fans, methinks!

So saying, I think these are likely candidates to bite it:

Ginny. Harry's love interest and Ron's little sister. Voldemort almost killed her once already.

Luna Lovegood. Rowling has said two characters will die that she didn't intend to die, but that doesn't necessarily mean both are main characters. I think she could kill off Luna as a fairly non-traumatic sacrifice in the struggle.

Snape. Although I do believe he'll be redeemed in his death.

Hagrid. His general magical ineptitude may be the death of him.

Draco Malfoy. I'm just hoping here.

Voldemort. Goes without saying.

*Edited to add Cho. Hary's former love interest. Strong DA character, but if she bites it, that'll teach her to still be friends with that awful fink, Marietta.

[liberalpragmatist]

55. I wouldn't be surprised if Harry's fate is ambiguous

I think there's a VERY good chance that Harry will have to sacrifice himself in order to kill Voldemort. But I wouldn't be surprised if Harry's fate is ambiguous. It's easy to imagine that the final chapter will be a sort of epilogue in which characters' fates are revealed and in which it's revealed that Harry "disappeared." No body was found and nobody knows what happened to him, leaving open both the possibility that he died and the possibility that he survived.

[hfojvt]

56. "my god, are we gonna be like our parents?"

"It's inevitable. It just happens. When you grow up, something in you just dies."

[xmas74]

62. Truthfully?

I'd almost bet Hagrid, possibly McGonnegal. They, along w/ Dumbledore, were the ones who delivered Harry to his aunt's house. They were the ones who were took Harry into school and they are the ones who have always done their best to look out for Harry.

Her death would shock him and send him into a rage. Hagrid's death would devastate him and cause him to completely lose control of everything he does. Plus, Hagrid would shock and sadden even the biggest fans.

[Fox Mulder]

63. I hope so.

I think it'd be freakin' hilarious if she kills him off.

[hyphenate]

65. I doubt it

I've heard rumors that Rowling might do another book on the first year out of Hogwarts. In that case, Harry would still be around.

Do you honestly think that JK would do that to Harry after all these years?

I have a few potential guesses, though: Dudley or Daddy or Violet; Hagrid; Minerva; one of the Weasleys, preferably the traitor, Percy; Lupin (one of my favorite characters); Cho; or even Snape. In the recent interview she said one of them was going to die anyhow, the other was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time in her plot. That makes me think that the one was the bad guy and the other was a secondary character.

You don't nurture your main character for almost ten years and then kill them. That would negate her whole series in my mind.

[intheflow]

69. Ooh, wouldn't I love to see widdle Dudders bite it!

:evilgrin:

Or, in a bizarre twist, Harry finds his aunt and Snape in a compromising position in the dungeon and kills them both!

[haf216]

66. Any word on when the next book comes out??

[KyndCulture]

70. She said on her site she's not even close to finishing it.

She also said the last word in the last book is "scar" and the last chapter has been written for 8 yrs.

[XemaSab]

71. Which sort of makes me think Harry lives

:shrug:

[Chan790]

72. God, I hope so. Annoying pipsqueak

Also, I have a sneaking suspicion that Voldemort's life is tied to Harry's life ergo the only way for "he who shall not be named" to stay dead is for Harry to die too.