Got into a religious argument with a co-worker

[Guava Jelly]

He got raging mad when i told him he believes in magic.
For some reason he doesn't think creating something out of nothing is magic.
Like i dunno a world/universe people plants and animals .
Or talking snakes , fiery bushes, tower of babel.Animals walking to by two on to a big boat.
If not magic what is it??

[blondeatlast]

1. Where do you work that such a discussion is a-ok?

I work for city government and that's a HUGE no-no--and rightfully so, IMHO.

[Guava Jelly]

5. Its a mold making cast stone shop

He started it so i finished it..
I actually like the guy even though hes a staunch repuke.
And told him i am not a believer or i'd be a christian.
we get along pretty good and we will still argue every other day

[PassingFair]

2. "miracles"

:eyes:

[miss_american_pie]

3. It's faith

and if he believes, why does he care what you think? :hi:

[blondeatlast]

4. Good point! nt

[Guava Jelly]

7. Kind of the way i feel also.

I just like argueing with him it makes a boring day a little more interesting

[Kerrytravelers]

6. Why bother getting into it witha co-worker?

While I never push my religious beliefs on others, if a co-worker belittled me for my personal beliefs, I might be a bit hurt by that.

However, if he started by pushing his beliefs in your face and not stopping when asked, I can see the anger.

[LaurenG]

8. Well it may be magic

but if that's the case we all practice magic every single day. Thoughts are things and they do create our reality. It's an abstract concept to be sure but if you think of something and if you want it badly enough you "create" it. If you want something you either buy it or make it or make it happen so in a way it is a little like magic.:) I don't think I could make a living being but I do make a mean chocolate chip cookie and know how to keep my focus long enough to bring projects to fruition.

[Catch22Dem]

9. I don't do that anymore

I stopped having those conversations YEARS ago. I figure I want to hear about their religion about as much as they want to hear my atheism, so I usually just leave it alone. I definitely keep that shit out of the workplace too.

[Arugula Latte]

10. Many religious people aren't used to anything other than total conformity.

They think everyone believes in Jebus and the Sky Fairy.

It shocks them to learn others -- others that they KNOW, no less -- think it's all a bunch of hokum. It makes them mad and defensive. By gum, they've invested a lot of time and effort in buying into these stories!

I think more of us should speak out -- Gawd knows we've had to listen to religious dogma our entire lives.

[SammyWinstonJack]

12. I just wish they would keep their "Jebus and the Sky Fairy" crap to

themselves. Maybe if they did that, they wouldn't be have to learn others think "it's all a bunch of hokum."

[idgiehkt]

13. LOL.

LOL, again.

[GirlinContempt]

15. Right.

You feel like you've been marginalized and insulted so you seek to marginalize and insult others? :eyes: Welcome to grade school.

MAYBE, just MAYBE, some of these people are like people I know. They aren't used to 'total conformity', and they AREN'T used to belligerent jerks.

[Ariana Celeste]

11. I have those arguments a lot

I have a Conservative friend... and we talk a lot of shit when we get drunk together. And argue a lot. We've pissed each other off so many times. Lol. But it's fun, and definitely better than discussing music with the guy. Or politics for that matter.

:hi:

[MissB]

14. Two rules of the work place that I tried to adhere to:

no discussion of religion or politics. Unless I was sure of their leanings, that is.

[blondeatlast]

23. I was raised that way and it has served me well.

Alas, apparently that rule of etiquette has become "quaint" regardless of what side you are on.

[GirlinContempt]

16. I'd get raging mad too.

You were rude.

[u4ic]

17. I let them be

unless they start trying to convert - or try to enact policy because of it.

If it gives them comfort, it's no business of mine.

(admittedly, up here in the north we rarely talk religion)

[ghostsofgiants]

18. Psshhh...

Who does this guy think he is, getting angry over having his personal belief system insulted? Anyone with some fucking sense would definitely realize "Holy shit, I've been wrong this whole time? My whole life has been a sham!" :eyes:

Grow up. Shit, I don't even believe in the stuff myself, but by no means do I feel it necessary to insult Christians for believing something that I don't.

[blondeatlast]

24. Common sense?! You tryin' to start sumthin', buddy?!

Thank you from the other end of the debate.

I don't discuss it in social situations, for one thing, but if it comes up and someone doesn't share my beliefs, it's not my business at all and I drop the subject as quickly as possible.

Apparently this is a difficult concept to grasp for a great many people. :toast:

[Gold Metal Flake]

19. You should do something nice for him since you upset him so.

Send him this!

[ghostsofgiants]

20. Better yet, send him this...

[Gold Metal Flake]

22. I bow to your superior gif.

(right click/yoink!)

[Autonomy]

21. Hmm

If creating "something out of nothing" must be "magic", then what DID create the universe?

Just curious about what kind of magic YOU believe in.

[xchrom]

25. interesting that the guy who figured out the ''big bang'' theory

from einsteins work was a jesuit priest.

[LostinVA]

27. Catholics are pro-Evolution

The Church believes it does not negate the existence of God. Indeed, they believe (or so I was taught) that it celebrates and affirms the existence and greatness of God.

I have no idea where these crazy RC fundies have pooped up from the last decade or so... I was Catholic from birth until my mid 20's, and I NEVER knew more than a handful of these whackos. All the Catholics I knew were into social justice and charity, and thought those dudes were nuts ala Father Coughlin. And, I grew up in a pretty rural, redneck place....

[Swede]

26. I had one like that with a whackjob athiest.

Don't you hate smug assholes?

[RevCheesehead]

28. If you like to argue, then maybe you should keep it there.

If you like to argue religion, then maybe you should take it to the Religion & Theology (a/k/a "Religious Acrimony") forum.

I hate it when this shit shows up here. x(

[Sequoia]

29. Oh, who can make a flower?

I'm sure I can't can you?
Oh, who can make a flower?
No one but God is true.


Just a little childhood song with rainbows and cows too.

[Pithlet]

30. Locking.

Nothing but flames will come of this.