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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:11 PM
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Love
Edited on Sat May-13-06 07:16 PM by ForrestGump




Love is the best thing that there is. I've most of my life been on the flipside of romantic love, and know full well that the intensity of its promise is mirrored by the intensity of its absence or souring, but even then I could not deny that love is the best of life, or that the best of life is found in love.

Because, for all its suckiness -- that is the technical term -- when you're feeling alone and unloved in that way, who can deny the brilliance of love that shines between a mother and her baby, or between parents and their children (well, ideally), or even among people together engaged in a mission that promotes esprit de corps and self-sacrificing behavior whether on some far-flung battlefield, within squad cars in a domestic battleground, or on the playing field? And you'd have to have been totally oblivious to miss the love of humanity that kept altruistic rescuers searching for survivors amidst the televised aftermath of disasters such as the Indonesian tsunami and Katrina's attack on the US Gulf States.

Romantic love is different. It may intersect with or pull a yin-yang with other love, but it's different even if it remains similar at its core. Love is pain. Love is bliss. Love is contentment. Love is discontent -- wanting more, whether for our higher good or in detriment to it. Love hurts, immeasurably, when it is one-sided, or becomes so. It is the most powerful of all feelings, perhaps. It is, as Charles Dickens should have said, the best of emotions, the worst of emotions. Well, bad enough, anyway -- hate not only mirrors love, like it was its evil twin, but some hate may actually be a side-effect of love, or the result of love for other things or people. Regardless, love's power cannot be denied by anyone who has felt it or even witnessed it in action.

In the grand scheme of things, romantic love -- for want of a more inclusive word (eros is fine, I guess, but it's not all there is to the story and, frankly, agape kind of puts me in mind of a landed fish fighting for its life) -- is small potatoes. It's the unconditional kind of love -- and its counterpart, conditional hatred -- that really makes the world go around.

But when you are honestly in love, or even tasting the feeling through infatuation, it's like nothing else you'll ever experience. If the whole world felt that initial euphoria, and was patient enough and tolerant enough to allow it to morph into something substantial and enduring, we'd have far fewer social and geopolitical problems than we do now. And, yes, neocons and the kind of bigots that too often fill the ranks of the Republican Party and similar groups around the world simply would not exist.

It's not going to happen. John, Yoko, and all the other bagists and bed-sitters had the right goal in mind, but humans are a self-destructive lot, too many of us in positions of major influence driven by greed and petty jealousies and hatreds. My hope that the good of humankind will finally overcome our destructive bent -- a hope reflected in the direction in which I took my primary career before taking a hiatus from it -- is quite possibly futile in the face of the reality of human behavior.

But still we hope. We have to try. And still I salute love. I salute love in all its forms, and if nothing else I pray that our lives can be blessed by the kinds of love that connect people on the most personal, intimate levels of all, the level at which we ultimately live and from which perhaps may even make a difference in the world. I salute it as one who once long lacked the kind he wanted but who knew, all along, that he moved through shimmering curtains of love in his every day. I salute it as one who has found the kind he craved, right when he gave up hoping for its presence in his life. I hope that all of us have it, will have it, or at least still retain good memories of it that remain tangible, whether the love was hard-won through life's struggles or came as easily as the Spring's dawn. Love will take us home, to ourselves, and onward from there...and no longer alone, not that we ever really were.


"Gatsby believed in the green light, the orgastic future that year by year recedes before us. It eluded us then, but that's no matter - tomorrow we will run faster, stretch out our arms further... And one fine morning ---

So we beat on, boats against the current, borne back ceaselessly into the past."

-- The Great Gatsby, by F. Scott Fitzgerald


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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:15 PM
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1. Great Gatsby quote!
:thumbsup:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:17 PM
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2. Only one of the best passages
ever written in the English language. :-)

It's the Side-2-of-Abbey-Road of American literature, to me.
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:20 PM
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4. I wrote my senior thesis about that book
:)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:23 PM
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7. Good choice!
I always identified pretty strongly with Gatsby (knew a couple too many Daisy types, too), and not just 'cos I bear an uncanny resemblance to Robert Redford. :D
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:24 PM
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8. Before or after the plastic surgery?
;)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:27 PM
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12. During
:-(
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:27 PM
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13. LOL
:)
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:19 PM
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3. Good post.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:26 PM
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11. Thanks, mate
Dinkum. Bonzer. And various other DownUnderisms that are undoubtedly anachronistic by now. :D



Here's another:

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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:39 PM
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20. *groan* you could not resist could you? whassup, dewd, word,
like not a, like, yeah but no question, man.

And here is another stereotype:

HI THERE EVERYONE I AM AN AMERICAN GIVE ME FOOD WHAT ARE YOU DOING WHY DON'T I HAVE FOOD I AM AN AMERICAN WHAT IS YELLING? I AM TALKING NORMALLY!

:P

Just mssing around.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:50 PM
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28. Spare me days, mate
Fair crack of the wheep, Bluey. Ya blinkin' drongo. :P

That Ocker's off his rocker!

You might be surprised at my original nationality, dude. But, yeah, while you're here, layin' some food 'pon me sounds a bodacious idea...in fact, dare I say it, toss a few shreemp on the barbie. :D

Go ANZACs!


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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 08:02 PM
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29. Your original nationality is, and why move to Yanksville?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 08:11 PM
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30. a) too many points of ID here for me to add another
b) the food's good here (though this became something of a liability beginning in my late 20s :-( )
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:20 PM
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5. I'm thrilled things are working out for you two.
You both deserve to be happy. :hug:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:29 PM
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14. Thanks, Ms LeftyMom...
:hug:

You deserve the same, in every aspect of your life. Onward and upward!
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:22 PM
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6. That's a nice little essay
I currently have no romantic love in my life. I hope to change that some day, but I don't know if it's in the cards for me. We will see.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:35 PM
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16. I could've written exactly the same six months ago
I literally gave up. Didn't discount the idea, totally, but decided that if that's how it was to be then that is how it was to be.

You never know where good will come from, though. Or when.

I had plenty of opportunities to get involved with women -- certainly a great many for less profound involvements of a night or two -- but I couldn't settle for anything less than real love. And it seemed to be sticking its tongue out at me. And, just to add to the fun, as much as I didn't want no-strings sex in place of love and some degree of real feeling and commitment, I also realized I'd grown phobic of commitment in the wake of my marriage.

But it all changed. Totally. Rapidly. Surprisingly completely.

And I'm living proof that it can happen to you. :D

Hang in there, dude -- it'll be worth the wait.

:headbang:
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:37 PM
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18. Thanks, man
:)
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:24 PM
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9. Quote is the best of all.
I adore Gatsby.

Good post, though.

:thumbsup:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:36 PM
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17. I love that book, too
Lost count of how many times I read it in my formative years...
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:25 PM
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10. My dear ForrestGump!
I am sitting here, simply open-mouthed at your wonderful prose on love...

And I hear you! Romantic love is the top of the heap, the prize, the ultimate .......

I have been fortunate to have experienced it more than once in my life...

It can take you so far outside yourself that you scarcely know how you got there...

And you scarcely recognize yourself either......

It is (or can be, ideally) transforming! It can reveal gifts you didn't know you had to yourself....

And it can inspire you to use those gifts......

And then everyone benefits.....I know....

Thank you for these words today!

:loveya: :hug:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:40 PM
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22. My dear Ms Peggy!
What you say is spot on -- it really can inspire you, not just to be a better partner but to be better for and within yourself, first and foremost. Just as a person is usually not much good for anyone else until they're good within themselves, a generous serving of love can go a long way toward revealing, as you say, positive attributes perhaps not even suspected before, or not seen for a long time.

:hug:

I sure didn't know it could be like it can, indeed, be. I'd been in love before, but...wow...when it's the Big Tamale it is, indeed, one freakin' BIG tamale. :D
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Iniquitous Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:30 PM
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15. That was really, really beautiful.
Sometimes just a touch of love gives hope to the hopeless, comfort to the pained, and dreams where dreams were not there. I, too, wish the world could be something else. It starts at home. It starts with each of us as individuals and how we live our lives. I'm fortunate to have that in my life and it sounds as though you are too. For years I thought I could live without that. I'm glad for everything in my life that made me think and strive for something more.

:loveya: Here's to love: :toast: (I'll toast with a chocolate milkshakes if you don't mind.)

p.s. Anyone ever tell you that you're a rather good writer?
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:44 PM
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23. Chocolate milkshakes are fine with me
Food of the gods. :D

And I'll surely drink to what you wrote. You good writer, you.

It's so easy to live without it, isn't it? But once you taste it....mmm...way better than chocolate milkshakes, and there's no going back.

And then you have to wonder how close you came to never knowing and feeling what you now know and feel...living life at a reduced volume, and not knowing it, when the amplifiers that channel our life's music go all the way to eleven. :-)
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:37 PM
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19. Love:
Love is a burning thing
and it makes a firery ring
bound by wild desire
I fell in to a ring of fire...

I fell in to a burning ring of fire
I went down,down,down
and the flames went higher.
And it burns,burns,burns
the ring of fire
the ring of fire.

The taste of love is sweet
when hearts like our's meet
I fell for you like a child
oh, but the fire went wild..

I fell in to a burning ring of fire.....[
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:45 PM
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24. Yep, it sure can have its flipside
I recorded that song a little while back...had to get all dark and moody to get into character. :D
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:48 PM
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26. dark and moody....I like it
B-)
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:40 PM
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21. Eh heh. See my sigline.
:hi:
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:46 PM
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25. That's true,
dammit. :hug:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-13-06 07:49 PM
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27. Love
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