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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:22 PM
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Nunc lento sonitu dicunt, morieris
No man is an island entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. ... for all men are brothers and each man's death, by a death, diminishes me. Therefore send not to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:23 PM
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1. Yes, but if no man is an island...
...is no schizophrenic an archipelago? :7
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:26 PM
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2. 'We'll' get back to you on that.
:hi:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:29 PM
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4. Work it out amongst yourself!
:hi:
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:27 PM
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3. no, that would make a man
a pair of islands...

wait, that IS an archipelago...so, yes it would
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:31 PM
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5. Wow that is heavy, what a day to give up grass.
:hippie:
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:41 PM
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6. Yeah, I wanted to write something heavy
I keep reading posts from people today who want to know why they should care that someone died. It diminishes us as human beings to grow to a place where we don't care about the death of another.

:-) I guess some folks just see me as too much fun to pass up a chance to 'play' in spite of it all.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:44 PM
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7. Some of us have "Hawkeye Pierce" syndrome...
...and you know what I mean by that. :-)
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:02 PM
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11. We read nudist volleyball magazines?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:03 PM
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12. No, no, no...no...
:-)
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:06 PM
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13. International Journal of Sunbathing No. 9 looks like my 3rd grade teacher
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 10:15 PM by The Lone Liberal
that is my third grade teacher!
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:37 PM
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16. Alas,
for me she was just the third-grade teacher of my dreams............ *sigh*
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:46 PM
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8. Of course I agree with you.
As Whitehead said, we are all nothing more than glowing lights up on the web of reality. Connections--connected. we are all only six degrees separated.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 09:54 PM
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9. Thank you for such a beautiful post
Our compassion and empathy for our fellow humans should not depend upon them wearing the appropriate political label. Whether we mourn a death is not the issue, since we really only mourn for those with whom we are close. But to celebrate the death of any person is simply inhumane.

Thanks SOteric. :hi:
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The Lone Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:11 PM
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14. Nobody loves you till you're gone
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 10:11 PM by The Lone Liberal
An old Bob Willis song, but it still resonates in pathos. It is like yesterday that I listened to him on that old Philco. The scratchy sound filling the night in that ranch house. Yes, we all live a defined existence then we fade away, just like that song, so long ago.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:28 PM
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15. I love Bob Wills!
Edited on Mon Jul-28-03 10:30 PM by lastliberalintexas
Bob Wills and the Texas Playboys rule! From everything I have heard from my grandparents, he was an incredible entertainer. And his bands- almost any variation- were extremely talented. You gotta love a group that has included Merle Haggard, Leon McAuliffe, Tommy Duncan and Johnny Gimble!

Turkey, Texas (up in the panhandle) has a Bob Wills Festival every year in April. Wills moved there after spending most of his youth in East Texas. A definite American style of music, combining the music of the African-Americans he'd lived with and worked among in East Texas with the Big Band sound of Miller, Ellington, Dorsey et. al. and the country music of the hills and the plains. Such a talent.

And I always loved the fact that he told Pappy to kiss his rear and bucked the system to hire "jailbirds" despite the censure from the oh so moral public and critics! Yet another rebel from my sometimes wonderful state!

on edit- Oh yeah, and he was another Texas rebel to "hide out" in Oklahoma after his run ins with the law (ie, Pappy)!
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 12:26 AM
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18. The words are by the 17th Century poet John Donne.
But the words have laced themselves into the tapestry of our cultural literacy.
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TXlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:00 PM
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10. Whoa, that's pretty deep.
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short bus president Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-03 10:56 PM
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17. "Klaatu Barata Nikto"
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 12:13 PM
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19. We've long suspected
you were an alien.
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ForrestGump Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 02:26 PM
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20. Om namah shivaya
Jai guru deva
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primavera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-03 03:35 PM
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21. I always kind of liked the original language...
No man is an Iland, intire of it selfe; every man is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine; if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as well as if a Mannor of thy friends or of thine owne were; any mans death diminishes me, because I am involved in Mankinde; And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.

- John Donne
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