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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:54 PM
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Donald Trump named his son BARON WILLIAM TRUMP
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 08:03 PM by Radio_Lady
Now, I'd like to know the English history of BARON.

Isn't it a title that has to be granted by the Queen or someone who has a traceable past?

THE DONALD = RICH = OUTRAGEOUS = POOR CHOICE OF A NAME FOR HIS SON???

On edit: I can only think of Baron Munchhausen... you know the guy... sorry for spelling.



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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 07:54 PM
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1. He should have added a "Von."
Baron William Von Trump sounds much more regal.

;)
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:03 PM
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2. LOL.
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djeseru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:12 PM
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4. lol
:thumbsup:

Left Is Right gets tonight's award for Best "Water Thru The Nose" Trigger.

Let's hear it for her folks!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 11:55 PM
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10. Check these meanings of BARON. I like "a large cut of beef" myself!!!
Definitions of "baron" on the Web:

a nobleman (in various countries) of varying rank
a British peer of the lowest rank
a very wealthy or powerful businessman; "an oil baron"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Baron is a specific title of nobility or a more generic feudal qualification.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron

In England, a large cut of beef (50 to 100 pounds, depending on the size of the animal) usually consisting of a double sirloin. A baron of beef is generally roasted only for traditional or ceremonial occasions. In France, a baron refers to the saddle and two legs of lamb or mutton.
www.mychefcoat.com/terms-b.html

The title of Duke of Beaufort in the Peerage of England was created by Charles II in 1682 for Henry Somerset, 3rd Marquess of Worcester, a descendant of Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester, illegitimate son of Henry Beaufort, 3rd Duke of Somerset, a Lancastrian leader in the Wars of the Roses.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baron(ess)_Herbert_of_Herbert

A vassal who served as a member of the king's great council. It was not, of itself, a title, but rather a description of the Tenants-in-Chief class of nobility.
www.renaissancemagazine.com/glossary/glossaryb.html

noble of high rank, in England a tenant-in-chief, holding his lands directly from the king.
home.olemiss.edu/~tjray/medieval/feudal.htm

1) the lowest hereditary rank of titled nobility in certain European countries and Japan. 2) in Great Britain, peerage title ranking below that of viscount, usu. hereditary. 3) in the Middle Ages, a feudatory of specified rank holding his rights and title directly from the king. 4) in Norman territories, the feudal rank immediately above that of seigneur.
www.regalis.com/glossary.htm

Noun (Plural: Barons) Low ranking British noblemen, and in Japan. However, it can be a nobleman of various rank in other countries. For example Baron von Richtorfen (First World War Flying Ace).
semper.freelinuxhost.com/Articles/Information/dictionary.htm

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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:30 PM
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7. I was thinking maybe 'Baron Vaughn Trump'
Edited on Mon Mar-20-06 08:31 PM by SOteric
but hey, same principle either way. :hi:
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:13 AM
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17. "Von" Is German for "Of"
"Vaughn" (or "Vaughan") is an ancient Welsh name. If comes from "fychan" (which means something like "littler") and was used to denote the younger of two bearers of the same name. So if he'd named his new brat Donald Vaughan Trump, that would actually make sense.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 12:43 PM
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26. Yes. I'm aware of that.
It was a pun. :hi:
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CBGLuthier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:08 PM
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3. You know I came to this town with only 30 million dollars
and now I am a success.

For some reason The Donald always makes me think of that line (that I may have slightly wrong) from the movie Head Office.

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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:13 PM
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5. Jacko's son is Prince Michael.
I'm surprised The Donald settled for the relatively lowly title of Baron and didn't name him Archduke or something. Yes, I agree it is an appallingly poor choice of a name, but what can you expect from such a vulgar person?
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 12:11 AM
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12. Regis Philbin kidded him about naming the child "Regis Trump" --
Now, that doesn't sound so bad as "Baron Trump" --

Reminds me of one of the characters in the old game of "CLUE"

"BARON TRUMP bludgeoned MISS OLIVIA with the BUTCHER KNIFE in the KITCHEN."
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hopein08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 08:27 PM
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6. Didn't he name his youngest daughter Tiffany...
because of how much Ivanna Trump and Donald like "Tiffany's"?

At least that's what Daryn Kagan said today.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:14 AM
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18. Lots Of People Name Kids After a Jewelry Store or Window Maker
and name their daughters "Tiffany."

I prefer to own Tiffany glass and Tiffany jewelry!
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:49 AM
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21. Nothing wrong with the name Tiffany.
I have a cousin named Tiffany.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:21 AM
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34. I Hope His First Names Are Louis Comfort
Tiffany is a SURNAME!!
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StellaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:10 PM
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8. "Vulgar" sums it up, yep
:puke:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-20-06 09:18 PM
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9. Soon, tens of thousands of unfortunate, white, middle class
male children will have the first name "Baron."

Or worse yet, Trump (I'm only exaggerating this much...).
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 12:04 AM
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11. Goodness, gracious! I hope not!
BARON HILDA SCHMIDT

BARON CLAUDE LARGESSE

BARON FRIEDA WEISS

BARON PATRICK McCLANN

BARON FREAKIN WEIRD NOMENCLATURE von EDIFICE

Donald and Melania, I hope you have a wonderful life with your little son. However, if it had been my choice, I would have named the child something else. In my humble opinion, you might have saved that name for a PUPPY, and that would have been EXCELLENT!

Perhaps a BULL MASTIFF, but not a CHILD!


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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 12:30 AM
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13. So basically...his name is "Ron".
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 12:41 AM
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14. It could have been Earl or Duke. Anyway, I can't...
see why anyone should care except for the trivia of Trump being the only person in history to blow his inheritance RUNNING a gambling house.

Twice.

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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 05:25 AM
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15. It's part of the peerage.
Thus is either granted by the Queen as fons honorum, or inherited.

Most Barons are peers of new-creation, because since 195something all new Barons have been non-hereditary titles (i.e., the title dies with the Baron and does not pass on). Earlier Baronies would be (and are) inherited, though in most cases this does not lead to a seat in the House of Lords anymore.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 06:06 AM
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16. Baron William Trump... hmmmm.... how about innocent babe
who'll become a snotty rich kid who'll become a playboy?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:12 AM
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19. I saw this on CNN this morning, but it's Barron, not Baron.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:21 AM
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28. OK. I stand corrected. What I believe I saw was BARON, but
must have missed correction. Thanks for advising me. Not stupid, just busy with my grandkids!

In peace,

Radio_Lady
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:45 AM
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36. As in Barron's, the financial magazine?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 07:48 AM
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20. See this link for the meaning of the name Barron.
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:17 AM
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22. I saw that his name is actually Barron William Trump.
For the title, I think it should have been 'William Baron Trump' anyway, since the title is a part of the last and not first name. At least in Europe. I should know ;) .
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:32 AM
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30. Well, William Barron makes more sense to me. It's nicely regal!
Edited on Wed Mar-22-06 02:37 AM by Radio_Lady
Also, there may be a future king by the name of William! I'm old enough to remember Bonnie Prince Charlie, but Queen Elizabeth may live long enough to keep him just the Prince of Wales. Who knows? Reminds me of the old joke, "Once a King, always a King, but once a (K)night's enough!"



"Shortly before midnight on November 14, 1948, Buckingham Palace announced that Princess Elizabeth had given birth to her first child, a son. Within the hour, his arrival was cabled across the Empire and the Commonwealth, where church bells were rung and Union Jacks raised in his honour. Across the globe, British warships fired a birthday salute. This was no ordinary birth. As second in line to the Throne, the new-born’s arrival was marked by all the pomp and ceremony befitting a potential future King.

One month later, speculation as to what the baby would be named ended when he was christened Charles Philip Arthur George by the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr George Fisher. Wearing the christening robe used previously by all of the children of Queen Victoria, the Prince was initiated into the faith of the Church of England."


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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 08:41 AM
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23. Off subject I watched his show last night and was APPALLED
IT takes something special to get through my thick skin but last night was one of the worst things I have ever seen on TV.

There was a contestant on "The Apprentice" named Brent-overweight lawyer whom everyone completely hated. He was portrayed as being slack, forever eating, always late, completely undependable...all this after 3 weeks of the show (last night was the 4th).

LAst week a woman who looked to have altered herself to purposely look as much like Heather Graham as possible (with HUGE oversized boobs) was fired. There is also a guy who looks remarkably like Orlando Bloom.

The show followed normal reality show formula as it featured Brent offering commentary throughout-see anyone who is shown to poke their neck out is 90% of the time GONE on that show. Brent had already been made out as the bad guy so there was no need to establish that any further.

The losing team (a cereal billboard contest) were taken into "the boardroom". Usually the team leader picks 3 or 4 of their losing team to stay and they have it out and "Mr.Trump" fires one of them. The competition is to see who amongst these go getters will get a $250,000 a year job in the Trump organization. Last night it all started as it normally does and then Brent pipes up and goes on the attack. This was a bad idea since he was being left out of it and he had no role in their losing the competition.

What followed was just plain cruel.

-One of my main pet peeves is debasing or lowering people and that goes double if you are just doing it as sport or to make yourself feel/look better-

Trump and his daughter ( don't get me started on that subject) and the entire team jumped on this guy .

They went on for five full minutes about how horrible this guy was as a person not just in the game.

Seems that since one contestant is a "multi-millionaire" she necessarily knows more than he does (they said twice that he only made $50K this as a lawyer). Well if the is true, why have the competition? Just line up the 16 people and compare their net worth and *POOF* clearly someone is the best capitalist simply from the numbers.

Did they have this guy, Brent, on the show for just this reason?

One of the tag lines on this show is "It's not personal it's just business" well this was very evidently personal and that includes Trump himself.

If this woman is a "multi-millionaire" why is she going through 16 weeks of this for a $250K in NYC? as part of someone else's organization?
Trump actually called the guy a loser on national TV. That was it for me. I have to say he took it (the whole time) a lot better than I would have but then I wouldn't have been in that situation for several reasons.

The whole thing was disgusting.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:02 AM
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24. tacky tacky tacky
i have heard baron used as a proper name before, but perhaps more often for a dog than for a little boy

do you suppose he is deliberately in bad taste or just completely w.out a clue?
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 11:07 AM
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25. Apparently, it's Paris Hilton's brother's name
So I guess he'll fit right in. :shrug:
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:47 AM
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33. The Hiltons might intermarry with the Trumps -- let's celebrate!
Wow! I can imagine the hotel industry potential!

http://www.gotrump.com/
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-21-06 01:10 PM
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27. It's Barron, not Baron
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:31 AM
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29. What if the kid gets Donald's red hair? They'll call him "the Red Baron"
at school.
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:38 AM
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31. Oh. Now, there's an idea!
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Radio_Lady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 02:40 AM
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32. William "Red Barron" Trump, in the plush!
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-22-06 07:33 AM
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35. If Donald were black...
…right now conservatives would be using his poor name choice to ridicule all blacks everywhere.

So can we assume by this bad choice of names that all white people are ignorant and uncultured?
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