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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:00 PM
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DUers who have flown on the Concorde (or those that wanted to)?
I flew Air France from CDG (Paris) to JFK on the Concorde about ten years ago. Fantastic! The westbound flight took 3 hours and 36 minutes. We hit Mach 1 fifteen minutes after takeoff, and settled into a cruise climb at Mach 2.10. Top-of-climb was over Nova Scotia at almost 65,000 feet (I was in the cockpit at that time).

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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:06 PM
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1. I was on the runway the day it landed
in Asheville---

Private plane, a small jet that was flown and owned by the Hunter Nissan guy---he, his friend, two sons, and my friend and I flew to Asheville from Hendersonville (when the Cowans owned that cute little airport)...and then almost had to go to Greenville, SC instead of Hendersonville because the weather got suddenly bad.

I was scared shitless by the way on the flight back to Hendersonville---the little jet was bouncing, and Mr. Hunter had switched to instruments---he said it was one of the worst landings he ever had.

I thought I was going to vomit.

;)

Yes, I HAVE seen the Concorde.

BTW---if you ever see a video tape of that from the news...the plane that landed right in front of the Concorde was us.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:09 PM
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3. There is a picture at the US Airways gate in AVL of the Concorde visit.
If I recall, there was snow on the ground. Right?
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:11 PM
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5. Oh yes!
That was the storm that came in!

And that's why the Concorde spent the night at the Asheville Airport! I am sure that the passengers had a wonderful time at the ONLY hotel near the airport at the time: the Holiday Inn with the Disco!

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:36 PM
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8. Yep! I remember it now!
The Concorde did RON because of the snow storm. For my records, can you pin-point that date? No biggy, if not.
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Thtwudbeme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:59 PM
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10. Wikipedia says 1987
I thought it was '86--- I could swear I was 22.

I will keep looking; oddly, it wasn't a big deal to many people.

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:02 PM
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12. U-B young! Still.
Mac
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:06 PM
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2. Very cool!
You know... Why'd we stop moving ahead with things like that?

Congratulations on being there!

What a story!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:33 PM
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7. The rest of the story is even better ..
I had been in Bordeaux at the Dassault plant for the roll-out of a new variant of the Mirage fighter. Then there was lunch at Chateau Dassault. Then the TGV back to Paris. Then dinner at "The Lila's" (a chapter in Hemingway's Movable Feast) in Montparnasse.

I was there as a guest of Dassault. As an aviation writer on the civilian side, my editor and publisher approved of my attendance at this celebration. Four other aviation writers from the US were in the party (Flying Magazine, Aviation Week & Space Technology, Business and Commercial Aviation, Aviation International News, and I represented Professional Pilot Magazine).

We all met in the Concorde Lounge for strong coffee and pastries before the flight. We were all in jeans and sneakers. The Concorde captain came in and the room got quiet. He came up to us (at the coffee bar) and said, "You must be the famous American aviation journalists, no? You are welcome in my cockpit! No? Please, have the wine. Have the lunch. Then come to my cockpit. My crew will be honored. Please."

Well, that's why I was in the cockpit over Nova Scotia! A little wine, a petite steak, and a spot of brandy gets you across the Atlantic at Mach 2.10!

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:10 PM
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4. I saw one take off once
at the Oshkosh air show. Very loud, very cool. And I went inside the one that's now on display at the Boeing museum in Seattle. I also have 2 little Concorde models in my cubicle at work. Obviously I've been as close as I'll ever get...
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wain Donating Member (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 06:53 PM
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24. I saw the British Concorde taking off over Jamaica Bay
A fantastic sight, a beautiful plane.

I agree, the roar of the four engines echoing and reverberating off the bay and low clouds was unforgettable. A deep, rumbling sound much like an Apollo rocket launch.

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:15 PM
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6. I always wanted to fly on the Concorde.
*sigh*
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:00 PM
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11. Me too
I always wanted to eat at Windows on the World too. :cry:
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madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:53 PM
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22. I've been to Windows on the World a couple of times.
$10 cocktails (15 years ago). Spectacular view over NYC. No other view in the city compares.

:sad:



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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 09:51 PM
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9. Could you see the curvature of the Earth?
Edited on Tue Mar-14-06 09:52 PM by pokerfan
You should have been able to at that altitude.



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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:06 PM
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13. Not really. I could imagine it, I guess.
The really neat thing was my shoulder warmer. I had the window seat and the surface friction at Mach 2+ warmed the skin and my shoulder.

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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:21 PM
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16. I was going to ask about that next
I understand that the air friction would cause the skin at the front of the craft to exceed 100°C!

It was a marvelous piece of engineering. It's a damn shame that it's retired from service.

Here's an interesting interview with the author of Flying Concorde:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/concorde/flyinghigh.html

NOVA: Do you think Concorde was a he or a she?
Calvert: She.
NOVA: And you loved her?
Calvert: Isn't that obvious?

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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:07 PM
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14. My boss used to fly it a lot. He liked the time savings, hated the plane.
Said it was cramped and not overly comfortable. But it got him home a few hours earlier so he could be with his family, so he flew it whenever he could.

His last time on a Concorde was a week before the one crashed.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:14 PM
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15. About the same diameter aluminum tube as a DC-9.
But, oh so fast!
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 10:35 PM
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17. You never fail to amaze me, Mac. All the things you've done!
That's quite an experience, to have been on the flight deck of the Concorde goin' Mach 2. I envy you. That's an experience I'd love to have. B-)
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-14-06 11:04 PM
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18. Never flew it, but have a question. What did kill it?
I mean even with the one accident, it still had a very impressive safety record over the years it was in service. Even the accident wasn't totally it's fault from what I understand. Was it fuel costs?
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:01 PM
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20. According to Wikipedia...
On April 10, 2003 British Airways and Air France simultaneously announced that they would retire the Concorde later that year. They cited low passenger numbers following the July 25, 2000 crash, the slump in air travel following 9/11, and rising maintenance costs.
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:31 PM
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21. Thanks for info, never thought of checking Wikipedia
Gotta do that one of these days :D
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bumblebee1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 10:59 AM
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19. I've seen two concordes.
both were on the ground at JFK International airport. They were from British Airways and Air France. I was getting ready to fly to Greece at the tims.
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 01:55 PM
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23. I wish I could have experienced
the acceleration of takeoff. I mean, I like that even in regular civil jets, but Concorde with those four Olympus engines must have been really something.
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ucmike Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 07:36 PM
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25. never flew it but experienced a landing outside my window
i worked in a construction trailer next to the main runways at newark airport. we were literally a few hundred feet from the runway. i heard hundreds of take-offs and landings a day, but on a particularly cold and foggy day i felt a vibration, then heard a rumble...seconds later the whole trailer shook, rattling things off the wall and making the stuff on my desk hop. there was an enormous noise outside, i knew it was a jet engine, but it wasn't like anything i had ever heard. i was sure that a plane had skidded off the runway and was heading straight for us. i ran to the window and saw the one of the concordes just as it touched down on the runway nearest to the trailer. we found out later that they had landed in newark becasue JFK was fogged in. i believe that was the only time it ever landed at newark.
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NJ Democrats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-15-06 08:04 PM
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26. I never flew in one
but I walked through one! I did at 2 years ago, at the Intrepid in NYC.
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