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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:52 PM
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Well, this feminist is mighty down tonight
Looking at GD, my goodness...it's a fucking MESS.

x(

Sometimes I wish men could live as a chick just *one day* and see what it's like.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:54 PM
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1. One word: Oscars.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 07:58 PM by Orsino
Next.

Edit: in retrospect, this post made me look as though I don't take your point seriously. I do, and I believe that I agree.
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:55 PM
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2. I wish women could live one day as a man
we have it tough
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:01 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. yeah
You're right.

When you earn 70 cents to the dollar a man earns, it is the easy life :eyes:
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:08 PM
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19. maybe women just aren't as aggressive at salary negotiations.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Oh, is that all it is?
History shows over the decades that women traditionally, systematically, are underpaid compared to their male counterparts doing the same work, and it's just because we're not AGGRESSIVE enough?

Fuuuuck. :eyes:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. lol
not aggressive enough...

My god. It's invaided the Lounge!!!
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #28
50. women are just selling themselves short...they need to ask for more
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #50
52. um, what the fuck makes you think we aren't?
Jesus. :banghead:
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #52
57. im saying its definately a possibility...men are usually more aggressive
which is why men are in more fights, etc...but it could also have advantages in certain cases, maybe this is one of them.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #26
114. Kill 'em, Bertha!
Women get paid less (STILL!!!!!!) because of a lack of testerone?

Nah, let's try something else.... how about male privilige?


Khash.
(Hey I'm male... I know all about male privilege.....)
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #114
116. I don't get what's so great about testosterone, anyway...
What does it do for you---turn you into a drooling baboon at the sight of skin anywhere near a woman's chest area?

:P :P

;)
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #116
120. pretty much yes...
some men control it more than others.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #120
125. Praise the ones who can control it fairly well....
None of whom are aged 14, 15, 16, or 17, by the way. :eyes:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #116
148. Yeah WIMR, pretty much yes
Hey don't knock it 'til you've tried it !:evilgrin:

Besides what's so wrong with drooling on women's chest areas as long as you do it politely :)



Khash.

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #148
153. I don't think I'll ever try it.
Fortunately. :D

But women's hormones--those are every bit as fucked up, really. :D Estrogen...pah. What a nutty thing, and yet how we all value it so intensely.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #116
177. In all serious, there's quite it bit it does (not all of it bad)
I've got a low testosterone level because of an injury to my endocrine system, and am on testosterone replacement therapy.

In males, testosterone helps provide energy and also helps to keep the brain healthy. It's responsible for properly regulating a lot of our glandular function-- not just the sexual organs, either. It helps to regulate moods and thinking, too.

You wouldn't think it has anything to do with anything besides sexual function, but it does quite a bit.

:)

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:49 PM
Response to Reply #177
189. That's very interesting.
:)
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #114
123. I reject that theory until scientific tests prove otherwise.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #123
163. What theory? That women get paid less, or that it's
due to testosterone?

You'll be waiting forever for the latter. Oh, and "scientific proof" ain't all there is...
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #163
191. due to testosterone...that can definately be tested scientifically
and would probably yield very interesting results.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #19
31. Are you fucking kidding me?
Seriously? You believe that crap?
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:06 PM
Response to Reply #19
193. At last! I now know the reason for male/female salary inequity.
Who'd a thunk? Wow. :wow:
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #2
11. Don't cry in your beer.
You individually may not have it but men have the power in this godforsaken country, and any woman on Capitol Hill can tell you that.
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #11
14. There are plenty of hardships of being a man that women don't recognize
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:07 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. Like what, exactly?
I don't mean to be hostile, but I'm curious as to what's hard about being male...I agree that there are some things, for sure, but I can't quite think them up.....Expound, please?

:hi:
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. in a minute...i gotta go pick up my thai food.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. Ooh....I love thai.
Enjoy!

:hi:
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:32 PM
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55. well while women have alot of difficulties, which i definately recognize..
men have a few as well...theres the whole stereotype(which i dismiss) of the male being the provider, which adds alot of pressure, theres the whole rape thing, its alot easier to accuse a man of rape than a woman. Having testicles is definately no picnic. And all men are secretly jealous of women because we can't have babies.

My mouth is on fire, i got the extra spicy larb.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #55
58. I for one am damn glad not to have testicles,
or anything else dangling down there. I'd go crazy if I had to deal with THAT all day. ;)

Extra spicy? Yowwwww.....

:D
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #58
68. yeah, and...
you don't have to worry about something popping up at an embarrassing moment, like when you're walking down the street, or at work...

Not that women don't have their own things to deal with down there...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:40 PM
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72. LOL--I was thinking about that popping business, too.
Now THAT would totally push me over the edge. Totally.

Not that menstruation and crap doesn't, of course.

;)
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:37 PM
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179. To an extent he is right
The whole "provide for the wife and family" thang is a major bitch. Just because I have external genitals, it's my responsibility?
Also, "men as natural sexual predators" is getting a little old. And uncomfortable.
And go watch some "romantic" movies..... almost always the woman at some point slaps the hell out of the man. It's cute, funny. If he did it to her, people would get up and walk out of the cinema.
The whole debate of women on the front lines. Nobody debates men serving there. Think about it. Men are expendable.

I think feminism has brought us to a transition point - men are beginning to realize the problems women have and women are starting to realize the problems men have. And we're starting to talk and try to find something that works for all of us....

Oh yes, testicles..... the worst of all :) Unfortunately, no amount of discussion can solve that problem.........


Khash.


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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:57 PM
Response to Reply #179
192. wow, you actually sorta kinda agreed with me on something
thats refreshing.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #192
199. Hey, I disagree with everyone on everything
But I rarely hold grudges. Some of my bitterest enemies have become dear friends. So just wait around..... and we'll eventually find common ground :)

Khash.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. Well perhaps, hobo, this is not the thread in which to air them.
N'est-ce pas?
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #18
23. LOL bk
;)
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #14
173. So...
stereotypes and hardons are the equal hardships that women don't recognize?

You're kidding me. It doesn't even contend.

Don't bother clicking the profile...I'm a guy.
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:54 PM
Response to Reply #173
190. stereotypes are a terrible hardship to overcome. n/t
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #2
61. All im saying is i think both sexes could learn alot by trading places
thats it.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM
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Yes, we could.
I'd be glad to flee back to my own body, as I'm sure men would be, too.

:D
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:48 PM
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91. Say that when you have to fear just going to your car at night
:eyes:

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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #91
95. i do have to fear just going to my car at night
its scary out there
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #95
106. Okay - think about it for a few seconds before responding
Who is more likely to be attacked while walking to and from their cars alone at night: men or women?

When more men who are alone are attacked by predators than women, then you can have an idea of how diligent a woman must be about personal safety.

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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #106
113. that doesn't mean the fear isn't still there
don't take away my right to be afraid just because you feel you're more entitled to it than me.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:23 PM
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151. Yeah, we sure do.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 09:24 PM by no name no slogan
Earning 30% more than women do, controlling most of the worlds' wealth, holding 90% of the top corporate positions in the top companies, not to mention over 95% of BOTH the US House AND Senate.

Did I mention that fact that we can also walk down a street in almost any neighborhood, and not have to worry about getting RAPED?

Yeah, us men got it SOOOOOO rough...

:eyes:
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:16 PM
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186. You're right. You do have it tougher.
You're drooling monkeys over whom attractive women have infinite dominion. Sorry. On the upside, you do get to scratch your ass and belch in public with less social consequence. Play nice and maybe in your next life you can be one of us gals.
;)
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:56 PM
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3. Chin up
In reality, there are only a handful of men on DU who are cringe-worthy. Unfortunately, they often seem to be the most vocal.
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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:58 PM
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4. Looking at GD?
Look at my post then it could really use some attention! (And votes for greatest)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 07:59 PM
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5. Don't let those ignorant assholes bring you down.
The majority of men here know what's what.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:06 PM
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16. And those who don't are mocked by the rest of us.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #16
184. Mock away!
Godspeed with the mockage.
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peacefreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:00 PM
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6. I know what you mean.
I feel like I woke up in an alternative universe. Where's my ruby red slippers? Let me out of here!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:00 PM
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7. What's going on in GD that would boil my feminist blood?
DU's resident sexist assholes acting up again?

:shrug:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:02 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. yeah
Apparently, women are being too promiscuous and slutty and uppity and dammit, men don't like that!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:06 PM
Response to Reply #10
15. I just checked in there....
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:06 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
Abso-fucking-lutely despicable. The next poor, poor man who tells me how persecuted he is....

:grr::grr::grr::grr:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #15
25. I KNOW!!!
I mean, cry me a fucking river. Persecuted? Fuck that.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #25
35. All majorities seem to have persecution complexes...
Whites, X-tians, men, old fogeys...And if you're all four, then you're REALLY fucked in that respect.

:eyes:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 PM
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97. Oh yes!
As a gay man, I HAVE been persecuted. Well, I guess having the hell beat out of you by two Marines counts as persecution. (They just thought I was gay.) My mother has said there are things she won't do, places she won't go because as a woman to do so would put her at risk. And that's true! I have a lot more freedom than she does. Based purely on gender.

And yet my Dad insists that as a rich white man (emphasis on rich, that's his big beef) that he's even more persecuted. Yeah, right. Trying lieing on the bathroom floor in a pool of your own blood and then when you finally quit crying and get yourself under control and have to mop up the blood.... Do that and you can talk to me about persecution!

Fuck I hate people like that!


Khash.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #97
103. Damn, Khash.
I guess I had an idea of this....but ain't that truth a hard, cold bitch. It makes my blood boil for you.

Sorry 'bout the jerks, pal.

:hug:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #103
142. Thanks WIMR
I don't regret any part of my life. Even the bad things. It's my life - the good and the bad.

I've been gay bashed twice. When I was 17 I was raped and it was really fucking ugly. I've mentioned it a lot recently (but never told anyone the details) because lately it's been bothering me. I think it's survivor guilt. He raped and killed a lot of young men. Of all of them, I was the only one he left alive.

Would I go back and change any of that? Maybe. But when I was a therapist I dealt with a lot of women who had been raped and that slit-my-wrists experience helped me to help them. I can't regret that.

But it just makes me furious when people who wouldn't know persecution and horror if it bit them in the ass complain and whine about how bad off they are.

But it warms my heart to see kids like you. Fierce, determined and compassionate. We, my generation, did not save the world or the people in it. We tried. Now it's your turn :)


Khash.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #142
146. It will ALWAYS be the next generation's turn,
I think. That's just the way human nature goes...These social problems will always exist. It doesn't matter that, in the end, no side will ever truly, truly win--there will always be someone out there to try to destroy what you build. What matters is that the battle is fought anyways--because, face it, what else are you going to do with your life? Sit around and let others have all the fun?

;)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #97
128. I've heard that line too.
White, hetero men are supposedly more persecuted.

Let's see here: white single mother, low income, decently educated (mostly self but still tend to be smarter than most candidates at interviews for various jobs).

I'm passed over constantly for jobs that are given to young white males w/ no experience. I hear comments about my "promiscious" lifestyle just because I am not married. When I do find employment I usually get to be the "coffee girl" while the men talk.

I've been raped and when I reported it to my campus security officer he said that I "asked for it" by going to the party in the first place. And I must have been a nasty person or else an old boyfriend wouldn't have hit me so much.

And I supposedly play the "single mother victimhood" card to death because I don't think I should have to be on call nonstop at work (though not a single man is ever on call there like that).

I hate that shit!

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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #128
130. That's fucked-up, too.
So sorry, xmas.

:hug:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #130
139. That's life.
You either stand up for yourself or roll over and die.

I tend to stand up.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #139
143. Good choice.
:thumbsup:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #143
145. You're young.
That is the best advice I can give you about life. Don't take any crap-pick your battle and stand up when the time is right. Arm yourself w/ knowledge.

There are many people out there who will do their damnedest to put you down. Don't let them.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:21 PM
Response to Reply #145
147. No, ma'am.
I won't.

;)
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #147
166. Good for you!
Now I'll get off the mommy kick.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #166
169. THANK YOU.
:P :P
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #169
175. You're welcome.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:38 AM
Response to Reply #169
201. Listen to her
One of the reasons xmas and I hit it off so well with each other is that we've both been around the block a few times and learned to fight back. Not something I really wanted to learn, but oh well.


Not that you need our advice - you seem to be pretty well clued in. I wish I had been at your age! Still,take our advice - fight! Physically, emotionally, spiritually, politically :)


Gods, I feel like I'm preaching to the converted :)


Khash.



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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #97
138. ....
:hug:

I care for you a lot, Khash...you've brought a lot of value to my life, and I'm awfully glad to know you.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #97
155. Yes, persecuted. :(
:hug: Heterosexism is fucked up. :hug:

Thank goodness you are alive, but crap that sucks... :(
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #10
134. Oh, shit...
I just spent three days in GD and took today off. Do I need to go back now?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #7
40. Do not even look, kiddo -- it's been A BLOODBATH all day
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:19 PM
Response to Reply #40
41. Too late--I peeked.
Looks like hell in there. May I ask what started it?

:hi:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #41
71. DU women being accused of "male bashing"
Basically.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #71
74. Take on the majority and you get ripped to shreds.
It doesn't seem to matter if your claims are legit or not.

Don't we see that every day in national politics??

:eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:03 PM
Response to Reply #74
117. Yup...
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #40
62. It's getting out of hand over there.
I'm a former high school and college debater. Even I don't want to deal w/ some of that crap over there.

It's flames, pure and simple.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:38 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. GD is always flamey....
But this is fucking insane.

:eyes:

Reminds me of when Stanley "Tookie" Williams was executed. Couldn't go in GD for three days, it was so up in arms.

:scared:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #65
102. That's not even a big one.
You should have been around for some others.

Schiavo lasted for a month.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #102
105. Wasn't posting then...I was only a "Top Ten" addict.
I can't even begin to imagine....

:scared:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #105
132. Migraines nonstop.
It wasn't pretty.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #132
133. Fuck, no.
:scared:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:16 PM
Response to Reply #133
141. Never again.
I stayed out when GD branched out recently.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #141
149. I know...It's been extra vitrolic of late.
*scratches head*
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:24 PM
Response to Reply #149
152. A few posters have made me question
what they are doing here in the first place.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #152
156. Unfortunately, the same holds true for me.
I just don't get it. Is DU getting REALLY out-there left, or are the new recruits getting right?

:dilemma:

:D
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #156
170. The "new recruits"
are sometimes visitors from other sites that like to flame at us.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #170
172. So I've seen.
;) ;)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #62
70. I know -- I've dealt with it all day -- but it's AI and the Lounge
for the rest of the night...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:41 PM
Response to Reply #70
75. AI?
:shrug:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #75
108. American Idol.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #108
111. I knew that.
Really. I did.

:blush:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #111
137. It's ok.
After seeing the post about spending time in the Lounge it might have just slipped your mind. For all we knew it could have been a new forum.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #137
158. That's what I thought it was.
:D
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #158
164. I would have too.
We constantly have new forums. I can't keep up w/ them.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #164
168. I only ever visit three:
Religion/Theology, the Lounge, and GD.

:D
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #168
174. Feminism isn't too bad.
I've learned a few things there.

And I've been visiting the weight loss forum-the kid is five so it's time to lose the baby fat!

I spend time on my state's forum and plan to spend more time in the frugal living and the gardening forum.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #75
119. *gasp* American Idol, whippersnapper!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #119
122. Okay, okay, I get it!
Geesh!

I knew "Open Arms," though, didn't I?

*smug look*

:P :P :D :hi:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:07 PM
Response to Reply #122
126. Watch it -- I have friends in Maine and go up there every summer
Orono and Bah Hahbor...
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #126
127. I love Bah Hahbah!
D'you like the lobstah heah, and the chowdah?

:D
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #127
136. Aye-yah... I love both!
And the blueberries. My friend from Bah Hahbah HATES seafood, but I love it, so her mother loves me, and always makes me plenty of good stuff.

Also, they tap their own trees, so I always have lots of real maple syrup.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #136
159. Niiice....
Maine syrup's pretty good, pretty good....

:D
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #159
181. It's great -- and whenever we run out, my friend's mom
mails us more!

Wicked good deal.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:59 PM
Response to Reply #70
107. I had to work.
I got home, took a look at GD, thought about posting and then decided to keep my mouth shut.

I've had problems w/ men in the past-does that make me a manhater? NO. But I feel like I must be one after reading a few of those threads today.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #107
109. They really bring out the worst man-hating streak in me, those threads....
:blush:

:D
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:11 PM
Response to Reply #109
131. I had to step back and look at pics of Trent Reznor.
He always makes me realize that I don't really hate men.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:13 PM
Response to Reply #131
135. LOL!
:spray:
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #135
140. My love for Trent is well-known in these parts.
We've hijacked entire threads w/ pics in his honor.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #140
160. Heheheehe...
;)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:06 PM
Response to Reply #107
124. Did you watch TAR this week?
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #124
144. But of course!
I'm preparing for our future appearance!

And I'm glad the sisters left. Too whiny, IMO.

As to Team Stoner taking first: I thought they would have asked for two of the Bugs in lieu of the trip! I would have.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #144
150. Hehehehehe....
The Nerds are so cute -- it's scary. Eric and Jeremy??? IN THE CLOSET MUCH BOYS! Am totally in love with Desiree.... she's so cute and nice.... MOJO are most unannoying, too...
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #150
162. I'm hetero and I adore Desiree!
Wanda is the kind of mom I want to be! She and Desiree seem to be so close. Did you catch D's comment about the ethanol detour? "This is punishment for all the times I passed out in chemistry." I laughed so hard!

E and J must be in the closet-notice they talk about sex and nothing else? I think that, if the cameras weren't on them, they would have spent their pittance on that male "escort" in Sao Paulo.

And the Nerds are so cute. They really seem to be in love. I wouldn't be surprised if he decided to propose on this trip.

I loved the climbing but the nerd in me would have wanted to do the ethanol experiment.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #62
121. Where'd you debate college
I coached some college debate back in another life.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #121
129. Missouri Valley.
I was CEDA. Real eye-opener to this high school LD girl!
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #129
178. I coached CEDA at North Dakota
in the early 90s and then at U Wisconsin Oshkosh until 98. Not much difference in CEDA and NDT after about 93. Though some schools still did pretty tame CEDA.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:43 PM
Response to Reply #178
180. I didn't care for CEDA.
It was supposed to be a values-driven debate yet it felt more like good old HS style team. Instead of focusing on the topic at hand and persuasion, it seemed to be about who had the bigger Rubbermaid boxes on their carrier and who could pull out their evidence cards quicker.

It seemed to be about straight-forward research and I hated that. If I wanted to spend all my time acting like the bigger know-it-all I would have stayed w/ team in high school instead of begging to switch to LD. No way I was going to do that in college!

I recently judged LD at a local high school and was sorely disappointed. No persuasive speeches, no appeals to intellect-it reminded me of team debate all over again.
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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #180
183. Well
Must be a girl thing :evilgrin: I loved the research, game side of it. To each their own. There are more "intellect" style options at the college (Ted Turner or somesuch) and high school level. LD really varies in high school by region.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:02 PM
Response to Original message
9. I was gonna post something about Hitler banning abortions...
Because he felt that "it must be considered reprehensible conduct to refrain from giving healthy children to the nation" and how it eerily mirrored what Nancy Schaefer, Georgia State Senator, said about abortion being to blame for labor shortages. I worked on it all day too. I had all my references in order and everthing.

I thought better of it.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
20. Yeah, the GDers would love that....
"ARE YOU COMPARING ME TO HITLER?????????"

:D
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. And dammit, I'd have to be honest.
"Yes. Yes I am."

:o
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #24
29. Then all hell would REALLY break loose...
If you change your mind and decide to rile up some of those hotheads, let me know. I wanna see it.

:D ;)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:12 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Meh. I don't particularly have a death wish tonight.
Maybe tomorrow. ;)
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:13 PM
Response to Reply #32
36. Sounds good to me.
:D ;)
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Briarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:03 PM
Response to Original message
12. sadly, the only thing we'd see...
is how long we could play with our boobs. :evilgrin:



Seriously though, GD is a GD mess.


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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:05 PM
Response to Original message
13. I apologize for my retard brethren.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:12 PM by Xipe Totec
I value loyalty above love, and blood above all else.

The thought of abandoning the mother of my children, is inconceivable.

To abandon my own flesh and blood, even less.


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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:09 PM
Response to Reply #13
22. Thank you.
:hi:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:11 PM
Response to Original message
30. Did you see this tread? There are indeed some good men here
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:15 PM
Response to Reply #30
37. The buttheads always seem to come out in droves, though,
and the good men always keep so quiet....

:shrug:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:12 PM
Response to Original message
33. Couldn't live as a woman
I would never get anything done.




Be playing with my breasts all day.














































:P







:hide:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #33
38. Well, I could say the same thing about being male...
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:16 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
I'd be too busy examining my newfound...Nevermind.

:P :P :P

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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #38
89. Yeah we are the same way when we first discover our...
Giggle stick.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #89
92. LOL!
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #89
98. Yes and there are some men that never get past their giggle stick
I am not accusing all men, just some!

:hide:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #98
100. Only SOME?
:shrug:




:hide:
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:55 PM
Response to Reply #98
101. Well it is quiet and does not talk back....
SO...


:shrug:

































:hide:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:57 PM
Response to Reply #101
104. Well, who wants that?
Isn't every man's deepest desire to be ruled by a termagant wife?

:shrug:




:P :P :P
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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:00 PM
Response to Reply #104
110. If I said what I thought this thread would get locked...
Just so you know I am not a male chauvinist...


I respect women.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:01 PM
Response to Reply #110
115. I don't doubt it.
;)

But let's not lock the thread.

:D :P :D
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #98
154. Now come on...
we all know damn well that if all men were double-jointed, we'd never leave the house.

:yoiks:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:28 PM
Response to Reply #154
161. !
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:12 PM
Response to Original message
34. Aww jeez I just peeked in over at GD...
whatta bunch of fuckin' babies...

sigh. I think I'll stay in the lounge tonight.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #34
39. Yes indeedy.
;)
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #34
46. Proud progressive male since I was a kid.
Raised mostly by my Grandma who adored Eleanor Roosevelt! I shared her heroine worship for liberal and radical women. One time she heard Emma Goldman speak!
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:20 PM
Response to Original message
42. Alright, I had to go look.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:21 PM by Revolutionary_Acts04
I knew there was a reason why I stayed out of GD. :banghead:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #42
43. painful, isn't it?
:hug:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #43
54. and scary.
:hug:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. It's like a car crash....
You're sickened, and upset, but you just can't look away...

:cry::cry:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
51. That's exactly what it is.
:o
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #51
53. Thank you, thank you...
:D
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:32 PM
Response to Reply #53
56. Anytime
:D

:silly:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:34 PM
Response to Reply #56
59. I never realized this before.....
...but you're a cool cat, Rev_Acts. I can see why so many Lizards like you.

;)

:hi:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:36 PM
Response to Reply #59
63. What took you so long?
:silly:


No really, that's really sweet of you to say. :blush:

:pals:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #63
69. Well, I've never really interacted with you before....
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 08:39 PM by WritingIsMyReligion
And it takes me a while to catch on to these things. ;)

:pals:
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #69
84. Teehee.
This is good though, I now have the WritingIsMyReligion stamp of approval. :7
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:46 PM
Response to Reply #84
86. Hey, it's a good thing to get!
Shows what the younger generation thinks of you.

;) ;)
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:49 PM
Response to Reply #86
93. BWHAHA!
Stop... you'll make me feel old. :cry:


:P
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. I've been told that I'm good at that.
:P :P
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RevolutionaryActs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:53 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. Kids today.
:eyes:



:P
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #96
99. Couldn't be any worse than kids yesterday...
:D

:P
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #44
165. or COPS
the worst (yet most intriguing) show on TV. I never miss it.

I need some hobbies. Or I need to move to my gf's town.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #165
171. The latter might be more entertaining...
:D
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:24 PM
Response to Original message
45. I was right about the cuddle corner, wasn't I?
:P
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. From that thread about redecorating the Lounge?
Yeah, you were.

Don't gloat.

:P :P

:hi:
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miss_american_pie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #47
48. LOL
:rofl:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:26 PM
Response to Reply #48
49. What?
;) ;)
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
60. ruh roh, now I done did it
:o
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:40 PM
Response to Reply #60
73. You created a Lounge Flamewar!
Do not pass go! Do not collect $200!
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #60
77. LOL--You did.
How does one start a flame-fest in the LOUNGE, of all places?

:silly:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #77
87. talent?
:D
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #87
90. I guess so.
:silly:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:37 PM
Response to Original message
64. Oh fuck them!
Look UP, because you know the Zomb is behind you 100%, and then some, on matters of equal rights and unconditional reproductive freedom. :hug:

Does anyone else's opinion really matter? ;-)
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #64
76. You rock
It's just really hard somedays realizing that...there is a whole lot of stupid out there in the general population, even at DU :hi:
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #76
78. ESPECIALLY at DU
:hide:
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #78
80. bahahah
You :P
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #78
81. LOL
:spray:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:43 PM
Response to Reply #64
79. Hey, here comes a MAN, man!
;)

:hi:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:38 PM
Response to Original message
66. There was some great pro-feminist stuff in there the last couple of days.
I think today's the backlash and trolling day.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:44 PM
Response to Reply #66
83. Tonight's the first night I've peeked at GD in a while,
so I can't compare--but this is bad.

:eyes:
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:38 PM
Response to Original message
67. I know. I keep clicking on the threads too.
:hug: Don't let GD get you down. There's a bunch of assclowns running around there always, today their issue just happens to be women's rights. GD's been a perpetual mess since I've been here. Join us in the feminist group, we're having fun. or :smoke: take your pick, you've earned it.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:45 PM
Response to Reply #67
85. I might have to pop in to the feminists myself...
;)

:hi:
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #67
157. I love that word "assclown"
entirely appropriate, in so many ways :D
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:44 PM
Response to Original message
82. Yeah, not a bad idea
As a feminist, I've often wished I could live a year as a woman. I mean, I really try to understand the issues and be supportive of women - but as a man, for me the issues are always gonna be more intellectual than personal. I'll never know what it feels like to have to make the decision to either have an abortion or not. And I have been forcefully reminded that men and women view sex very differently. And although I am gay and have suffered discrimination and violence because of it, the discrimination woman face is different. I can sympathize but not truly understand.

But we guys aren't all bad. Some of us do try :)

Khash.


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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:47 PM
Response to Reply #82
88. You're never bad--
You're Khash.

:pals:

It's so good to see a man willing to call himself a feminist....

:yourock:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #82
176. Ever try dressing as a woman to see????
Thanks for being so thoughtful.

Sometimes I wish I could be a man for a day or two.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #176
182. Ok , since it was you that asked... I guess I have to answer
Yes, I have done drag. Several times. And at many times I've been mistaken as female - even after I grew a beard!

Nowadays, although a feminist and more and more seeing how our culture mistreats men too, gender for me is a game. Something to play with, have fun with. It's only a trap when it's taken seriously. Then again, I'm crazy - I recognize more than a dozen possible genders.


Khash.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #182
187. Thanks for answering. I have always wanted to do drag, but
it's different if you're a woman trying to look like a guy.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:09 AM
Response to Reply #187
198. Some girls look great looking like guys!
I guess the strapping down your breasts thang ain't no fun, but strapping down my genitals wasn't a laugh riot either :)


Still, it has it's fun moments, And I do miss that blue velvet dress :)


Khash.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:00 PM
Response to Original message
112. Right there with you. But I'd like the thank the mods (seriously)
for hanging in there while the board gets this sorted out.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #112
118. The mods in GD and R/T (Religion/Theology) are fucking saints.
:patriot:

:D
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:30 PM
Response to Original message
167. I prefer to work with and for women.....
I believe strongly that anything a man can do, a woman can do just as well....

I firmly believe women and men should be paid the same money for the same work....

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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 09:58 PM
Response to Reply #167
185. Why can't men like you
live in my town and offer me employment!

Seriously. I only seem to be good enough to make minimum wage and make coffee.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:43 PM
Response to Reply #185
188. I also prefer the company of women....
Men can be very boring when left to their own devices...
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:09 PM
Response to Reply #188
194. In my area it's an old boys club.
I can't break in.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:22 AM
Response to Reply #194
197. Believe it or not.....
It's hard to break in on any old boys network....

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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #188
195. Two questions
1. Is your comment a thinly-veiled reference to masturbation?
2. If not, does my puerile response illustrate your point?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 12:07 AM
Response to Reply #195
196. No Yes
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 05:41 AM
Response to Reply #167
202. I agree with you on principle.
But in my workplace experience, the women have fared worse than the men.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-09-06 04:27 AM
Response to Original message
200. If I could be a woman for a day...
...I'd be a lesbian.

Hehe, just kidding. I don't care. I'm a 30 year old white male soon to have a lot of money. ALL of the worlds problems are my fault. :)
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