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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:00 PM
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Reese witherspoon?
I was sure it would be Felicity Huffman
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:01 PM
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1. I thought Reese
she has paid her dues and this is her reward.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:03 PM
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5. Is she even 30 years old?
She is too young to say she has paid her dues.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:04 PM
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11. Yes, I believe she is.
She's been in movies since she was like 15, maybe even younger.

I know she did "Man on the Moon" when she was 15.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:06 PM
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16. Sorry she still isn't old enough to have paid friggin dues.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:09 PM
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24. Who was your choice?
:shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:13 PM
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27. I hadn't seen all the films so it wouldn't be fair for me to choose
And I am not saying she didn't deserve the Oscar, I just wondered about that comment about her paying her dues.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:15 PM
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28. She has a long resume
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Bassic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:50 AM
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68. Nevermind.
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 11:51 AM by Bassic
I was annoyed at something else, so my response was not to be taken seriously.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:49 PM
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110. No That's For The Lifetime Acheivement Award
Hell Tatum O'Neal got an Oscar at age 11 -- it's for a single performance, not for "dues paying."
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:08 PM
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21. She's been in movies since she was a kid
Great actress -- wonderful in the part. Deserved.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:05 PM
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14. what dues?
she was born rich, has been cast in major roles since she was a kid, and has a lovely family
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:07 PM
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17. She did a hell of a job when she was still a kid.....
......her performance in "Man In the Moon" was the best I've seen for someone that age.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:07 PM
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20. I so agree (nt)
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:58 PM
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30. It was 100% due to good direction.
That was her first film and the director knew exactly how to get good performances from children. Look at his other work.

Reese is a spoiled rich kid who has always gotten what she's wanted in life. She's fake to the core, and not a nice person at all. The academy was probably afraid she would sue them if she didn't win.

If you only knew how she got that role. I don't want to get sued, so I should probably keep it to myself.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:00 AM
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31. I take it you know her personally.
:shrug:

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:06 AM
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36. Yes, I do. n/t
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:08 AM
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39. Sorry your personal relationship sucks.
I mean it has to given the way you talk about her.

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:14 AM
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44. She isn't a person who I think belings on a pedastal.
But, I suppose that is true of many people. Her image is just that, a very well crafted image.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:18 AM
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48. Could you have pulled off the role as June Carter
the way she did?

Could you have sung the songs the way she did?

Acknowledging her performance and giving her an award for that performance is not putting her on a pedestal.

Most of us are simply image, the image we portray to the world.

She gets paid because folks like her image and what she, as an actress, brings to the role.

I don't have a problem with that.

Now if you want to discuss pedestals and images and sports, you have my ear.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:26 AM
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56. Who's putting her on the pedestal? She deserved the Oscar
Give us some proof of your accusations, and I'll listen, and maybe agree with you she's not a nice person (although, I know someone who has worked with her, and says she's great) -- but she still deserves the Oscar.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:58 PM
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115. You Sound So Jealous!
She didn't get Miss Congeniality, she got Best Actress and she deserved it.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:47 PM
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131. Really?
Are you from Nashville?
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Pale Blue Dot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:04 AM
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34. Wow. Way to perpetuate stereotypes.
Ever notice that nobody ever complains about male actors being "not a nice person at all." Or how nobody ever post vague innuendo about how an male actor "got that role"?

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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:09 AM
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40. No, i've never noticed that.
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 12:09 AM by girl gone mad
I hear that type of stuff about male actors all of the time, dating back to James Dean.

I wasn't referring to a casting couch, anyhow. That's just an assumption that you made.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:29 AM
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58. What other "bad" way would she get a role? I guarantee most people would
think the casting couch.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:33 AM
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61. Economic pressure...
...or using other pressure tactics and familial connections.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:45 AM
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66. That makes no sense
What kind of economic pressure? And, her family has no connections. This is crazy -- actresses with much more clout and connections auditioned for the part -- it was a hot audition.

What a silly thread.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:01 PM
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71. Why am I reminded of all the whining about Viven Leigh as
Scarlett O'Hara? Hell, that even spawned a movie about the casting of the movie :P
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:27 PM
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75. I know! It's bizarre!
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:20 PM
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86. You just asked...
...what other ways there are, besides the casting couch (which exists for men as much as women, by the way), for people to slide into roles beyond the legitimate audition process.

I was making no judgement on the validity of the poster's accusations toward Witherspoon. I have no insight in that regard.

And I thought the poster was referring to her role in "Man In the Moon." Is that the role about which you said "actresses with much more clout and connections auditioned for the part?"
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:04 AM
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89. No, Walk the LIne is what I meant
Because that's what I thought the poster was referring to.

If she meant the very early movie of Witherspoon's, then what she said makes even less sense to me!
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:31 PM
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100. i wouldn't
I think of family money. Nobody thinks Bush became president because he slept a supreme court justice. But I suppose one could argue that he too has paid his dues.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:50 PM
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101. But her family isn't rich -- they are just firmly middle class
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:48 PM
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102. she went to harpath hall academy
that means something in Nashville. Despite her image as this random little southern girl, she went to the most elite school in the city for girls. The mere fact that she went there puts her in a different social class, and speaks of major connections.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 01:57 PM
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103. Yes. middle class to MAYBE upper middle
In Nashville. NOT in Bel-Air.

I have connections in the movie business, even though my involvement is in the outer fringes, and Reese Witherspoon's fam,ily would mean NOTHINg to any Hollywood types, unless it was their niece or something. So, her major connections aren't there. In music, very possibly.

I've never heard her called a "random Southern girl" -0- every interview I've ever seen or read of her mentions she went to a private school. Who cares?
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:02 PM
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105. Connections to Nashville private schools....
Edited on Tue Mar-07-06 02:09 PM by Shakespeare
...do not equal connections in Hollywood. The most that might have meant for Ms. Witherspoon is that she got the veneers on her teeth BEFORE she arrived in Los Angeles.

Yes, the woman has talent (Election, anyone?).
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:11 AM
Response to Reply #102
125. Wasn't she also...
...a debutante?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:49 PM
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129. Again, apples and oranges
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 01:49 PM by LostinVA
That's often as much family name than anything... and, since her last name is "Witherspoon," there's a good chance there's some Mayflower-type folks in the family tree.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 06:18 PM
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133. True enough...
...but it does speak volumes about priorities.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 02:52 PM
Response to Reply #102
132. My roommate went to Harpeth Hall
She's an administrative assistant who can't get into law school. So much for family connections and those all-powerful HH connections.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:28 AM
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57. Totally agree
And, to give tit for tat: I know someone who worked with her on a film (wardrobe), and said she was very friendly, very nice, very considerate -- unlike ot6her actors in the same film. Since I know that person, I'll believe them.

And, who cares if she grew up with money? So what? Reverse elitism...
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:05 AM
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35. Your comments seem rather mean-spirited.
why do you say such things? :shrug:

Do you know personally know her???
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:12 AM
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41. Wow
Yeah....sue the Oscars. I'm sure that would happen.

And an actress campaigning for a role? Who ever heard of such a thing? I bet that's never happened in Hollywood history!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:31 AM
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59. And, do you know how many people in Hollywood could buy and see
Reese Witherspoon? This Oscar will help her alot re: clout and salary, but she's still far far from the top of the Hollywood acting elite. (Cruise, Eastwood, etc.)
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ProudToBeBlueInRhody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:02 PM
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77. I think she was close already......
....I seemed to recall reading she's going to get the biggest paycheck for an actress in a movie she's doing next year, topping what Julia Roberts got for the awful "Mona Lisa Smile".

She's a consistant big box office draw, even when doing some of the harmless forgettable fare she's gotten since "Legally Blonde". Sadly, she's gotten away from doing the risky roles she was taking in the late 90's and now pretty much runs in the Hollywood mainstream.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:15 AM
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92. How she got which role... June Carter or Man on Moon?
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:34 AM
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97. Sounds like half of Hollywood
n/t
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:16 PM
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118. Wow. You sound pretty angry about it
If you emailed me (foolscourtpress_at_hotmail.com) the details of how she got the job, you could never be sued for that.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:07 PM
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18. For lasting and surviving in a business
that is know for the 15-minute men and woman.
It's not easy to survive in the biz. Look how many child actors have gone way, way downhill with drugs, alcohol, etc....
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:09 AM
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91. Right
So someone having money now means they can't act? :eyes:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:30 AM
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96. Or are deserving of industry accolades or glowing reviews
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:29 PM
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99. i didnt' say she couldn't act
I just didn't agree with the OP comment that she has payed "dues". In fact, I think she has had an easier time in the business than many other talented actors who have yet to win oscars or even get cast in a movie.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:01 PM
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2. I'm very happy for her
she did a marvelous job in "Walk the Line".
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:08 PM
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22. I rented it this weekend. I haven't watched it yet.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:12 PM
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26. i just watched it last night. LOVED that movie.
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 12:06 AM by jonnyblitz
I am not a big country fan but that music gave me chills sometimes. My father used to play that music over and over and I grew up with it. I wasn't aware that June Carter wrote "Ring of Fire" which was also covered by one of my favorite punk bands whose lead singer (((worships))) Johnny Cash, Social Distortion (with lead singer Mike Ness).
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:16 PM
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29. I've always said that Cash was punk before punk even existed.
And yeah, Cash's influence on Ness is undeniable.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:16 AM
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46. I saw Ness's "Cheating at Solitaire" tour in Boston in the 90's
It was like a tribute to Johnny Cash it seemed. He kept referring to the "man in black". The rockabilly band that opened for him kicked ass too but I can't remember their name. what a great show that was.

I just loved this movie 'Walk the Line" though. I really did.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:21 AM
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50. I haven't seen Walk The Line yet.
Ness' "Cheating At Solitaire" album is great. "The Devil and Miss Jones" has been one of my favourite songs for years.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:22 AM
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93. Mike Ness is still playing the same crap songs for 20 years. He tossed
all his original bandmates out of the band. He is not to be mentioned in the same breath as Mister Cash. You can mention him in the same breath as Sha Na Na.
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Kathryn STone Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:52 AM
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94. ROFLMFAO
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Kathryn STone Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:36 AM
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95. Kind of like mentioning Millie Jackson in the same breath as Ray Charles.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #93
121. Quit your whining. "Sex, Love and Rock 'n' Roll" is a great album...
And it's not like I said that Mike Ness is the Johnny Cash of punk or anything. I just said that Cash had an undeniable influence on Ness, which is pretty obvious.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:08 AM
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38. You don't need to be a fan of country music to appreciate Johnny Cash
he was lightyears beyond what the crap is they put on the radio today and label 'country'.

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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:17 AM
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47. I also wasn't aware he and June Carter did a Bob Dylan tune
"no no no it ain't me babe, it ain't me your looking for babe" or something like that. I was loving the music in that movie. :thumbsup:
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cemaphonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:41 PM
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79. Cash and Dylan liked and respected each other a lot.
Cash had Dylan on his TV show a few times, and sang on Nashville Skyline.
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Blue_State_Elitist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:22 AM
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51. Social D
"Let it burn mother fucker"

Right on Jblitz.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:23 AM
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52. I saw it on a flight from Houston last month.
It was a great film, she was wonderful and so was Joaquin. I think she deserved the award. I too grew up listening to Johnny and June (my parents loved the live at Folsom & San Quentin records especially) and we watched their show too. And yeah, I'm also a huge Social Distortion fan. :hi:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:01 PM
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3. yuck
She just thanked Fox.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:09 PM
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23. That is the film studio
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:01 PM
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4. Felicity totally deserved it.
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 11:02 PM by crispini
She was incredibly convincing in Transamerica.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:03 PM
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8. I thought so.
Disappointing
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:03 PM
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6. I love Reese.
She's an incredible actress, and I think she totall deserved it herself!
Duckie
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:03 PM
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7. yuck
How come she gets to talk forever?
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:04 PM
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10. I was wondering that myself
Where was the orchestra hurrying her off?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:06 PM
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15. They always seem to give leeway to the best actress. Hers was short
compared to some. :)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:09 PM
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25. They always do that for the last few big awards
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:04 PM
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9. She was incredible as June Carter...
all the actresses made this one a very hard call.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:18 AM
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49. I thought she was great too
:thumbsup:
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:33 AM
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62. A great year indeed -- she just edged them out
It also helps when the movie you're in is top notch -- maybe people say that's why Cate Blanchett didn't win for "Elizabeth": she was great, but the movie itself was lacking, and was not critically acclaimed. "Transamerica"'s script got some very mixed reviews, although Huffman was great.
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johnfunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:05 PM
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12. Tough call -- Huffman and Witherspoon were both terrific
I still prefer Hilary Swank, though.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:05 PM
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13. Reese was fantastic in Walk The Line and did deserve the award.
But then who am I to say? I also loved her in Legally Blonde. :)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:34 AM
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63. She was very good in 'legally Blonde" -- she has very good timing
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:56 PM
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114. Comedy Is Most Difficult Of All And Rarely Recognized As Such
Woody Allen is the only one who has gotten a comedy to get any r-e-s-p-e-c-t, well, Sideways did pretty well last year but it's far and few between -- they want drama, drama, drama! But comedy is much harder to pull off IMO. It's easier to portray some sad scene and get tears than to keep up the pace and have people laugh and then remember the plot.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 01:51 PM
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130. I know -- I almost fainted when Kevin Kline won for "A Fish Called Wanda"
Any script writer knows that comedies, especially rom coms, are THE toughest script to write.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:07 PM
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19. Reese Was My Pick -- I Was Disappointed With "TransAmerica"
I thought that movie was pretty lame -- and she looked like a woman trying to be man-like throughout, maybe I expected too much from the glowing reviews but it wasn't really much of a role.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 08:35 AM
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98. Wow, I had a completely opposite reaction.
Many times, I forgot that she really wasn't a MTF transsexual. She played the part tremendously well. And I went in with reservations about seeing a woman actor in such a role.

That said, I love Reese too.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:02 AM
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32. Fuck that shit!
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 12:13 AM by ronnykmarshall
We are planning on burning ALL Academy buildings in LA for the crock of shit with "Crash" winning best picture. To add fuel to the fire Felicity's snub helps.

FUCK YOU OSCAR!!!

You screwed Judy Garland and Diana Ross. Now you've fucked with the wrong queens!!!

Death to the fascist insect, that preys upon the lives of the people!

VIVA Tonia!!!! Long live the SLA!!!!

We shall overcome!!!

DON'T FUCK WITH ME FELLAS!!!!!!!!
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:06 AM
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37. THIS AIN'T MY FIRST TIME ON THE RODEO
I heart ronny.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:13 AM
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42. I heart you too Hedy!!!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:14 AM
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43. Dude, it's only an awards show.
Yes, they copped out. Ain't no big surprise.
Chill, dude, chill.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:35 PM
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87. Yep! Fuck the Crash!
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 11:36 PM by elshiva
I love you Ronny!
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:02 AM
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33. I think she's adorable. I loved her acceptance speech.
"I'm just tryin' to matter." Great line. :thumbsup:

I still haven't seen her in Walk the Line, though.

We just saw Felicity in Transamerica on Friday nite and I could definitely see why she got nominated, too.


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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:42 AM
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53. I was happy for Reese
I haven't seen all of Walk The Line yet (just scenes from when someone else was watching it,) but she seemed pretty believable. Her singing wasn't as good as Phoenix's, but she has a solid voice for the part.

As for her being spoiled, she comes across as self-assured instead.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:57 AM
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54. Yeah, that's what I think, too.
she's just trying "to matter". I loved that line she used in her speech!

Can't wait to see the movie. Unfortunately, it's already gone from the theatres in our town. We'll have to rent the DVD to see it at home.


Oh well.
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:15 AM
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45. Huffman was better in her clips than Reese has been in whole movies.
What a shame!
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:27 AM
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55. OK, many here are happy for her, but she didn't merit that award
just look at the list of past winners, think of their qualities and work before and after the oscar, does she fit in that list? case closed.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:31 AM
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60. They often pick "it girls" and pass over seasoned actresses
So it's not that weird. And if she was good in this one performance, it doesn't matter that most of her previous work was in teeny-bopper movies, IMO. It's not a lifetime achievement award.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:41 AM
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65. Exactly -- and, she should have been nominated for "Election"
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 11:44 AM by LostinVA
And "Legally Blonde" was an excellent movie -- critical kudos, too.

Reese deserved the award. And, unlike the Golden Globes, but like SAG, she was chosen by her peers.

I can't understand the harshness here -- this is nothing l8ike Helen Hunt winning. It's more like Hilary Swank. And, Witherspoon has a way better resume than Swank did when she won the first time, and NO ONE here is saying anything.

If it's some kind of weird backlash re: subject matter, June and Johnny were wonderful, progressive people. And raised some fine damn kids.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:48 AM
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67. Good call, I forgot about Election. Also, Pleasantville and Vanity Fair
Everyone thinks of her lame romantic comedies when she's put in some good work that was under the radar.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:03 PM
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73. She's fantastic in "Freeway" and I've got a huge soft spot for "S.F.W"
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:06 PM
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74. Very good in "Pleasantville." I forgot about that one!
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:47 PM
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83. Election was a great film.
She proved that, if given the right material, she can give a good performance.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:40 AM
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64. That's not what the Academy Award is supposed to be
And, if you do loom at many past winners of this award, they had lousy movie roles before and after... and some truly didn't deserve the award.

Just since 1997: Helen Hunt, Gwyneth Paltrow, Julia Roberts, Halle Berry (hey, you said roles before and after -- X-Men? Catwoman? Gosh, she didn't serve THAT Oscar!), Charlize Theron (What? An ex MODEL? The Italian Job? She sucked). Guess only Hilary Swank and Nicole Kidman deserved it since 1997...
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:56 AM
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69. The award isn't for their work before or after, it's for that particular
performance. It's not a lifetime achievement award, it's for the specific performance for which it's awarded.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:33 PM
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76. "Not a lifetime achievement award" But achievement of some kind is req'd
But its also not a never-have-done-anything-decent-previous-to-this award until now, and you're missing something, either there was a good to fine body of work that preceded the Oscar performance or blew you away like Hilary Swank the first time (btw, never heard of "it's her or his turn"?) neither applied here. and the best actor type oscar has almost always been validated by later fine performances and quality of films, don't think it's gonna happen in this case.

Did you notice she was not smiling on her way up to the podium? Probably hearing the stunned to discordant murmurs in the crowd.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:02 PM
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78. No, it's YOU who are missing something. The only thing relevant for
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 03:08 PM by ET Awful
a best actress award is the specific performance for which the award is granted. What came before it is completely irrelevant.

Your whole argument seems to stem from your OPINION that her prior work is pertinent to the award, which it is not. The only thing that matters for any of the big awards at the Oscars is the specific instance for which the award is granted. Prior movies are completely irrelevant.

For instance, how large a body of work apart from TV and crappy Burt Reynolds movies did Sally Field have when she won for Norma Rae?
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:20 PM
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80. OK Sally Field broke out big time but got another oscar later,Reese no way
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 08:21 PM by confludemocrat
Just like Hillary Swank. I know them both as great actors, they are favorites of mine, but the chirpy bird Reese Witherspoon is no Sally or Hillary. Sissy Spacek fits better as a comparison, but Spacek a southerner, playing a big, big main role of Loretta Lynn had a much bigger challenge and the magnitide of that achievement is bigger by comparison, but that was it for her. I can't see that what was really a supporting role (in Cash) deserved an oscar.

But you're right Sally did crap before but had an emmy before an oscar-but Reese has only played herself in her multitudinous crap.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:34 PM
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81. You have no idea what WItherspoon will do in the future.
You are simply trying to explain away a legitimate awarding of an Oscar that you don't agree with because of your obvious dislike for Witherspoon.

Fortunately, the Academy disagrees with you.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:47 PM
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84. I know: personal dislike is not an objective opinion
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:50 PM
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85. BTW, did you know that (at least according to Wikipedia), June Carter Cash
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 08:51 PM by ET Awful
personally picked Witherspoon to play her? And, for that matter, Johnny picked Phoenix for the role according to various sources that are Googleable.

Can't get much more authentic than that.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 12:06 AM
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90. That I did not know -- that's great!
I know their family liked that Witherspoon is actually from Nashville.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:46 PM
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82. Considering she was odds on favorite to win,a nd has won every other
award this season... I doubt there were many stunned murmurs.

And no... this is not a lifetime achievement award. Period.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:45 PM
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106. Yes She Certainly DID Merit The Award!!
She nailed a difficult part and made it look easy -- down to the singing. Just because it LOOKS easy doesn't mean it is. And it's corny to nom every role where the main part is portrayed throughout as somehow "emotional" or "afflicted." I didn't like Transamerica at all. My hairdresser is on his/her way to Turkey to get switched M 2 F she could have played the hell out of that role, Felicity had no spark at all IMO.
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:51 PM
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111. AND this is the same actress who did Election and Freeway
And if you've never seen Freeway, RUN to the store and rent/buy it as quickly as you can.

Yes, she deserved it.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:53 PM
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113. Right On!! She's Made Some Gutsy Choices....
Freeway and Election, absolutely!! I think "Election" was robbed, it was my choice for EVERYTHING that year!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:57 AM
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70. she's a damn good actress but I loved it last night when her husband's
film got best picture!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:03 PM
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72. I wanted Felicity too.
But I like La Reese. She was a hoot in "Election".
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:48 PM
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108. Felicity & Crash Should Not Even Have Been Nommed IMO
Every single character in Crash was a cliche', same as TransAmerica. I found both movies pretty shallow and Felicity a big yawn -- but I expected a lot as I just saw it recently and had heard all the hype.
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:38 PM
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88. Me too.
I was disappointed. :-(
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:00 PM
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104. For everyone saying Reese Witherspoon is rich, connected, whatever
From imdb:

"Laura Jean Reese Witherspoon was born on March 22, 1976 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. She was the second child born to Dr. John and Betty Witherspoon. Her father was a military surgeon specializing in the ear, nose and throat. Her mother was a Registered Nurse who would later become a Ph.D in pediatric nursing. Reese spent the first four years of her life in Wiesbaden, Germany where her father served as a lieutenant colonel in the US Army reserves. Shortly after, John moved the family back to the States, settling in Nashville, Tennessee.

Reese was introduced to the entertainment industry at a very early age. At age 7, she began modeling. This led to appearances on several local television commercials. At age 11, she placed first in a Ten-State Talent Fair."



Again, not rich. Maybe upper middle class, definitely solidly middle class. No Hollywood-style connections. But, what the heck difference does it make? So, she didn't grow up poor, she doesn't deserve teh Oscar.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:46 PM
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107. JEALOUSY! At FR They Were All Over Her For Giving $$ To....
Dems!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:49 PM
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109. It's really, really weird to me!
She si totally innocuous -- you never read anything about her being snotty, etc... she doesn't do "the scene," etc. She's married with kids, comes from an old family... big frigging deal.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 02:51 PM
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112. She's Beatiful, Rich, Successful, Talented So Of COURSE...
People resent the hell out of her but I love a lot of her work, especially in "Election." People act like Tara Reid won for crying out loud -- Reese is REALLY a good actor and smart business woman, and she wanders around town with her kids and no entourage, I dig her!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:12 PM
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117. I was thinking that exact thing! Like Tara Reid or Jenny McCarthy won!
She's a very good actress, a critical darling in even her fluffy movies, and seems like a decent person.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:36 PM
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119. You've made me anxious to see Walk The Line
From what I saw, her performance goes way contrary to the argument that she plays herself. She's so pretty (yes, I like the chin) that she fits the role of June well IMO.

I'll be watching two movies soon - Walk The Line and Harry Potter And The Goblet Of Fire. Rare for me, who's much more of a music fanatic.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 07:57 PM
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120. Both terrific movies!
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 05:29 AM
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122. It's all image.
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 05:36 AM by girl gone mad
Of course she "does the scene". She didn't get to be the highest paid actress of all time by being an outsider.

She used to openly admit that she wasn't a likable person back in her 'Election' days. Then the studio realized she played much better as a wholesome red state girl. I'll give her credit for being smart enough to play along.

But don't take my word for it. Here is what Kevin Smith has to say about her:

Waaaaay back when we were casting on Mallrats, Mosier and I are really anxious to meet Greasy Reese Witherspoon (who I then referred to without the "Greasy" moniker), because we're both huge fans of the coming-of-age drama Man in the Moon. Back then, our casting agent, Don Phillips, would meet with the actors and actresses before we'd audition them, precluding the meet-and-greets I presently am engaged in all week. For the Greasy meet-and-greet with Don, Mosier and I arrange a drop-in, as we're eager to see what she's like, this young actress who so dazzled us as Sam Waterson's daughter. So Don is meeting with her in his office at Universal, and Scooter and I pop in like we don't know she's there, and start jawing with her. What a disappointment.

First, she comes off faux-erudite as all hell, and condescending to boot (personality traits that make for the kiss of death in my book). Secondly, she compares her Stephen Dorff-starring flick S.F.W. to Clerks, calling them "...the same movie, essentially." If you're me, and you've seen S.F.W., this is tantamount to saying Clerks licks balls. By meeting's end, we tell Don there's no reason to bring her back for an audition, as we're now non-Reese fans.

Now whether this registers at all with Ms. Witherspoon, I have no idea. But on two future occasions, I have run-ins with Reese which are not at all pleasant, and may reflect what one can define as a grudge being held against me for not letting her audition for Mallrats (a slight that she should've sent me roses for, all things considered).

The first such run-in takes place at one of Details magazine's "Young Hollywood' Parties. I'm dragged to the shindig, kicking and screaming (I hate parties, and I hate 'em even more when they're wall-to-wall with creepy young actors in L.A.), by my then-girlfriend, Joey Lauren Adams. We see Reese there, holding court, and Joey wants to extend her a congratulations on her performance in Overnight Delivery.

To understand the mammoth gesture this is, you have to know Joey's history with this flick. Many months prior, she and Reese were up for the lead in the picture, the script for which I did an uncredited re-write. It was being directed by the same guy who'd also crafted that contender for the cinematic throne of Citizen Kane, Bio-Dome.

While Overnight Delivery would eventually be unceremoniously dumped straight-to-video by New Line a year later, it was something of a hot project then, and Joey was up for the female lead (indeed, at one point, Joey was going to not do Chasing Amy -- the film that earned her a Golden Globe nomination -- and instead do Overnight Delivery; and people say there is no God...). Ultimately, Reese was cast instead, as New Line was grooming her for stardom. After the initial understandable bout of disappointment, Joey found peace with this decision, especially once she'd gotten Amy under her belt.

So it's a year later. We've shot Amy but it hasn't come out yet. Joey and I have seen an early cut of Overnight Delivery, and she wants to say something nice about Reese's performance to Reese -- a real stand-up gesture that you'd never catch me making, were I in her shoes. We jockey up to Reese (me, quite unwillingly), and Joey tells her that she's seen the flick, and she thinks Reese was really good, adding she's glad Reese got the part when all was said and done. And how does Reese react?

She sneers at Joey. Then turns away.

Children, I wouldn't say it unless I'd witnessed it with my own two eyes. Greasy Reese Witherspoon sneered at the compliment like the third grade girl with the most Valentines sneers at the third grade girl with the second most Valentines after all the Valentines have been given out, just prior to the distribution of the holiday cupcakes. It was an ugly, ugly moment. There was no offer of even an insincere, Hollywood-type "Thanks." Merely a sneer.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 08:28 AM
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123. Do, she doesn't do the scene, she plays the game
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:55 AM
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127. So Kevin Smith doesn't like her.
Big deal.

From reading what he wrote, he thinks highly of himself. I guess he is offended that she doesn't think as highly of him as he does.

Plenty of stand offish folks are great professionals. She won an Oscar, she didn't win the Oscar because of her image, her personality off screen or whatever debutante ball she attended. She won it because of her talents that allowed her to put in one hell of performance.

You don't have to like her, but down playing her win because you don't just makes you seem a tad jealous and rather silly, imho.


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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 03:49 PM
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116. ..Hate to resort to ad hominem attacks (no,I don't)..but my husband
is a big Reese fan,while I find her chin to be a horrible distraction from any role she's playing. So we were watching 'Sweet Home Alabama', and we decided to ask my brother-in-law. His reply?
" They should call her Reese Wither-your-boner."
Just sayin'...
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 10:34 AM
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124. Reese does have that off-putting icy quality, like Nicole Kidman
Two ice queens of the current cinema. It took me a long time to warm up to Kidman, and I am still not quite there for Witherspoon. She is a good actress, I just don't find her appealing as a personality, which has nothing to do with her acting ability.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 11:25 AM
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126. I know another person...
...who agrees with me that her face is odd, appearing as if her entire visage was pulled inward from behind her nose.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-08-06 12:02 PM
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128. I've seen two Reese Witherspoon flicks
Edited on Wed Mar-08-06 12:03 PM by bikebloke
And a week or two apart. Aside from dark wigs and accent, to me her characters seemed the same. Maybe it's growing up seeing June Carter and Johnny Cash, but I ever saw June in her June.
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