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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:00 AM
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Who/What Are the Worst Oscar Winners Ever?
Who/What are the worst Oscar winners ever in any of these catigories?



Worst Picture


Worst Director


Worst Actor


Worst Actress


Worst Supporting Actor


Worst Supporting Actress


Worst Original Screenplay


Worst Adapted Screenplay



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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:14 AM
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1. Forrest Gump.
:puke:
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:52 AM
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3. Yes- triply so when you look at the competition that year.
Forrest Gump was a better movie than Pulp Fiction?

Huhhh?
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:54 AM
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4. Not to mention Shawshank Redemption.
I absolutely loathe Forrest Gump.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:11 AM
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20. Shawshank should have won
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:48 AM
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103. Shawshank was nominated
theh same year as Scindler's List ('91 or '92 I think).

FG and PF were the same year ('95). I like both myself...I would have had a tough time chosing between the two, but PF has by far the most quotable and hilarious screenplay. My friends and I quote from it all the time.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:10 AM
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19. HATE that movie
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:04 PM
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64. Thank you!
I thought I was the only person on the planet who HATED that movie.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:59 AM
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76. Love that movie, but Shawshank Redemption was better
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:05 AM
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93. Behind FG, SR is the 2nd most overrated movie
Conservatives cite them too often as their "favorite guy movies" that are supposed to betray their "sensitive side." That nothing between them is sufficiently offensive to conservatives to prevent this regard is a fatal flaw in my book. :shrug:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:21 AM
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98. Shawshank Redemption isn't supposed to be political
But it's still an incredible movie. Of course if you really get into it, the Warden's character can be interpreted as a slam to phony Christians. But conservatives aren't usually smart enough to get this.
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:29 AM
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109. Agreed. A pointless CGI moneyhole.
Either "Pulp Fiction" or "Shawshank Redemption" shoulda won. SR is my sentimental favorite but PF really was the best film in competition that year.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:18 PM
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121. That steaming load of guano is nothing but...
…a cloying, saccharine celebration of stupidity. If I wanted to see that, I would turn on FOX News.
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:36 PM
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123. IMO, Lloyd Kaufman hits the nail on the head with this review:
"I like to describe Troma as Anti-Hollywood, Anti-elites, Anti-Forrest-Gump. This doesn't sit well with many people, including my own normally sophisticated wife, who think of Gump as the moving story of a simple man's triumph."

"But what's this movie really saying? Forrest Gump acts exactly as the mainstream and the government tell him. He follows orders, becomes a hero in Vietnam, and meets U.S. presidents. He becomes Ping-Pong champion of the world with absolutley no effort, not to mention a member of the Forbes 500. His life is directly contrasted to that of the woman he "loves," played by Robin Wright. This young
woman, who acts independently, often as part of underground culture - including protesting the Vietnam War - dies of AIDS. The lesson to our young people is obvious: DON'T THINK FOR YOURSELF. DON'T ACT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE HERD. GO ALONG WITH BIG BROTHER, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A WOMAN, OR ELSE YOU WILL GET AIDS AND DIE."

"Forrest Gump won six Academy Awards, including Best Picture."

- from All I Need To Know About Filmmaking I Learned From The Toxic Avenger
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:19 AM
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2. I've never seen it, but "The Greatest Show On Earth"
starring Jimmy Stewart as a homicidal clown sounds pretty bad.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:33 AM
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7. It's not HORRIBLE. It's just empty spectacle.
Not the best of anything. It put the lie once again to the idea of a "Best Picture."
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:11 AM
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21. He was an abortionist, not a murderer
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:40 AM
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37. Happy to be able to use my 6,000th post to highlight your post.
Someday, this board will be misogyny-free.

Until then--I pray for all who confuse ending pregnancy with murder. Such ignorance.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:55 AM
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41. Congrats on 6K!
:toast:
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 01:36 PM
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45. Good grief! Like I said, I never saw it. I didn't have my
facts straight. My mistake for attempting to make a comment on something I haven't seen. But I'm hardly a misogynist, nor am I anti-choice. Jeez. Don't jump to extremely unwarranted conclusions, lady.
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aePrime Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:25 PM
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46. You must be new here
That's her MO. I've encountered it more than once.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:10 AM
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94. Why don't you try backing that accusation up yourself, newbie?
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 03:11 AM by Tallison
I find your post inappropriate and backhanded.

On edit: And try responding directly to the object of your criticism next time.
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aePrime Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 10:56 PM
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117. OK
First of all, let's address the condescending title of "newbie". I joined August 30, 2004. You joined June 29, 2005. I'll let you do the math.

Secondly, I was trying to let FuzzySlippers know that she did nothing wrong, and that BlueIris has had a tendency to throw out, with unqualified abandon, the misogynist label. It seems she likes to start these arguments and then disappear. Exhibit A is my own thread, in which I was trying to let women know that they can do just as well in an engineering field as men, even though they're seldom encouraged to follow such a career path: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=105&topic_id=4026826#4026892 .

To reiterate, with a history of such behavior, I was trying to let FuzzySlippers know that she would be better off ignoring the comment.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:09 PM
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57. Back at you, BI -- I like your posts, btw!
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:21 AM
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5. Worst "Best" Picture: Titanic, by far.
Worst "Best" Actress: Julia Roberts (Erin Brockovich) over Ellen Burstyn (Requiem for a Dream)
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:28 AM
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15. right on the money on both of those
Ellen Burstyn not winning the Oscar that year was a crime!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:14 AM
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22. Titanic is both a bad movie and a great movie
The recreation of the Titanic and her demise is great. Kate Winslet is wonderful, Kathy Bates, Frances Fisher, and Billy Zane are as great as always. Some very affecting scenes. However, some of it just sucks. Including Leo and Bill Paxon (big surprise). So.... I'll say it's both.
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Jennos20 Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:35 AM
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91. I have to agree with you on that
Titanic came out when I was 13 years old, and back then I thought that was the greatest movie of all time. I admit that I was one of those little girls who was in love with Leo DiCaprio, and saw it in the theater with my friends like 5 times. (could have been more I don't remember) However I recently saw it again on HBO, and its pretty bad. So yes I like it just because it was part of my adolescent, and no because it's not all that great.
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:29 AM
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28. I agree, Ellen Burstyn should have taken that home! nt
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Calliope Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:19 PM
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53. Did not see Ellen Burstyn. My favorite that year
was Laura Linney in You Can Count on Me. (No way Julia Roberts.)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:10 PM
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58. Laura Linney is ALWAYS good
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:38 AM
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34. I am right there with you, baby.
HATE "Titanic"'s totally undeserved "sweep." HATE.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:28 PM
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47. She was amazing in Requiem--everyone was--very poignant film and
beautifully made.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:35 PM
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54. Agreed...
I can't believe Aronofsky wasn't nominated for best director for that.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:29 AM
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96. Requiem should have swept every category that year -
I watched that thing six times in a row within a 48 hour time span when it first came out on DVD.

That was a phenomenal piece of film-making.

Even the website for it is amazing:

http://www.requiemforadream.com/
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pointblank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:23 PM
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122. Accckkkk
Julia Roberts

:puke:

She annoys the crap out of me.







Ok, so I am mean...so what??
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:41 AM
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6. Worst Picture
"Rocky."

No-talent hack who did soft-core porn recycles boxing cliches into movie.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:34 AM
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8. I remember being confused by its critical success at the time, and I was
only 14.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:35 AM
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9. I'm still pissed about "Saving Private Ryan"
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 04:36 AM by Hissyspit
soft-peddling nostalgia for jingoism to the American people in the guise of art - at least it didn't get Best Picture. People say: "It was robbed!" No, it wasn't.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:43 AM
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11. I didn't think 'Ryan' was jingoistic
Maybe I didn't watch it right. :shrug:
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:59 AM
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13. After the stark realism of the D-Day...
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 05:00 AM by Hissyspit
scenes, the whole rest of the narrative, a compendium of WWII war movie cliches - monstrous German soldiers, the only kind, of course - the final scene where the American flag is waving has his grandchildren in awe-struck silence for his sacrifices as he demands affirmation for his actions implies that no one had shown him enough respect over the years. There is very much a fetishism for perceived World War II moral clarity. It was very subtle in how it did these things, which is one of the things I had a problem with. My understanding is that "Munich" deals much more with moral ambiguity.

I just thought it was a really crappy script.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:21 AM
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14. Okay
I'm not enough of a morality critic to argue, I guess — though I had forgotten about the flag at the end when I made my original post. That was unnecessary, I thought, and it took something away from the film's message, or the message I inferred.

I didn't infer a shortage of respect from Ryan's "demand" for affirmation, though. I saw a grief- and somewhat awe-stricken man hoping he'd lived up to his "saviour"'s last words, which he obviously took to heart, and asking the one whose opinion he valued most for that affirmation. It was a bit over-dramatic and perhaps schlocky, but I think it worked.

I'll save my real rippin' for "Pearl Harbor," which was so over the top as to have me yelling at the screen.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:31 AM
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16. I didn't even bother to go see Pearl Harbor.
And I'm sure you are right about that. Oedipus, to be honest, I rolled my eyes at the final scene. In real life, the kids would have been begging grandma when they were gonna get to go to McDonald's. I think, in light of what has come since, it was definitely the wrong movie for the times. I did like "Schindler's List."

Sorry, didn't mean to turn this into GD!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:41 AM
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17. You're probably right
about McDonald's. :D

Since I take it you're not likely to see "Pearl Harbor," I'll spoil a bit of it by telling you what wrecked it for me (besides that they made it into a romance): You've got these two guys, thinly disguised as Lts. Taylor and Welch, who've never seen a minute of air combat, flying P-40s, a thoroughly average fighter, against the elite of the JNAS in A6M3 "Zeroes," one of the best fighters of its day — and beating them.

And then they compound it by taking them out of the P-40s and putting them into B-25 cockpits in the Doolittle Raid. Bullshit, in every conceivable way.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:17 AM
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24. I just thought it was a horrible, boring, overlong script
Affleck is a nice guy, but can't act. Ditto for Harnett. Kate Beckinsale is s decent actress, but not good enough to overcome the script. Jennifer Garner and Alec Baldwin were the best actors in the film, but they were under utilized.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:15 AM
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23. Right on the money
The D-Day scenes were great. The rest? Meh.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:12 PM
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52. The Entertainment Weekly reviewer actually gave it
an A for the first 30 minutes and an F for the rest of the movie. (I think it was Ken Tucker, though I'm not sure.)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:13 PM
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60. Really? I agree.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:36 AM
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10. In the modern era, big studios in Amerika rarely produce the best....
...whatever. So it's hard to take the "Oscars" serious.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:50 AM
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12. Worst?
Picture: Titanic (LA Confidential would've been a MUCH better choice, IMO)

Director: Robert Zemeckis, for Forrest Gump

Actor: Al Pacino, for Scent of a Woman...that was just the Academy making up for not giving Pacino the award for any of his FAR superior performances in the period from The Godfather through Scarface.

THe other categories I can't really think of a "worst" for at the moment.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:19 AM
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25. Really on Pacino? I thought they were making up
But that he was GREAT in "Scent." Hell, even Chris O'Donnell was good in it.

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AussieDave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 06:03 AM
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18. Worst Actress - Gwyneth Paltrow for "Shakespeare in Love"
A stolen ballot which was merely a precursor to Gore in 2000.

What the hell was the Academy thinking ????????
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:54 AM
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40. Worst Actress = tie for Gwyneth Paltrow and Grace Kelly
:(
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:54 AM
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75. Good call!
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:24 AM
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26. I can't answer all the questions but I think the
worst picture to win best picture was Jerry McGuire...it blew
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:40 AM
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36. Jerry McGuire
didn't win best picture.
The English Patient did that year.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:25 AM
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27. The Silence of the Lambs, The English Patitent, The Last Emperor. All crap
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:39 AM
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35. I disagree on Silence of the Lambs
which was fantastic, imo.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:14 PM
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61. Agreed-- acting was great, they script was tight
Great flick
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:23 AM
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85. I Love The Last Emperor
Wonderful film, IMO.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:06 AM
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90. I certainly agree on "silence of the lambs"
especially since I worked on a film that was nominated for best picture the same year and lost to it. x(
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:37 AM
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105. agreed on Silence of the Lambs
farfetched and not the least bit scary
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:30 AM
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29. Out of Africa when the Color Purple should have won! nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:42 AM
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30. Neither that year--"Ran" should have been the clear winner.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:47 AM
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31. Worst Picture 1989: Driving Miss Daisy, up against the following:
Nominees: Born on the Fourth of July, Dead Poets Society, Field of Dreams, My Left Foot
Winner: Driving Miss Daisy

Do the Right Thing didn't even get nominated...

Not a stellar lineup for BP that year, but DMD would not have been my choice.

Source:
http://www.eonline.com/Features/Topten/Snubs/6.html
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 09:50 AM
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32. Arguably the worst Best Picture snub: "The Greatest Show on Earth" over
"High Noon," The Quiet Man," and "Singin' in the Rain."

I would have had a tough time picking from among "High Noon" and "Singin'" and I can make a case for "QM," but the winner--no effing way!
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:41 AM
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43. Thanks for the context!
The same phenomenon has been true with Best Original Song, with unmemorable tunes occasionally capturing the award over true classics.

I'm appalled by a number of recent and long-ago winners, notably Braveheart.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:29 AM
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33. Forrest Gump and Titanic
as Best Picture.


Helen Hunt as Best Actress in "As Good as it Gets"

There might be others, I'm still thinking.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:50 AM
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39. I should've had this in the OP. (List of Best Picture Winners 1927 - 2004)
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 11:18 AM by norml
1920's
1927/28 - Wings
1927/28 - Sunrise
1928/29 - The Broadway Melody

1930's
1929/30 - All Quiet on the Western Front
1930/31 - Cimarron
1921/32 - Grand Hotel
1932/33 - Cavalcade
1934 - It Happened One Night
1935 - Mutiny on the Bounty
1936 - The Great Ziegfeld
1937 - The Life of Emile Zola
1938 - You Can't Take It With You
1939 - Gone With the Wind

1940's
1940 - Rebecca
1941 - How Green Was My Valley
1942 - Mrs. Miniver
1943 - Casablanca
1944 - Going My Way
1945 - The Lost Weekend
1946 - The Best Years of Our Lives
1947 - Gentleman's Agreemant
1948 - Hamlet
1949 - All the King's Men

1950's
1950 - All About Eve
1951 - An American in Paris
1952 - The Greatest Show on Earth
1953 - From Here to Eternity
1954 - On the Waterfront
1955 - Marty
1956 - Around the World in 80 Days
1957 - The Bridge on the River Kwai
1958 - Gigi
1959 - Ben-Hur

1960's
1960 - The Apartment
1961 - West Side Story
1962 - Lawrence of Arabia
1963 - Tom Jones
1964 - My Fair Lady
1965 - The Sound of Music
1966 - A Man For All Seasons
1967 - In the Heat of the Night
1968 - Oliver!
1969 - Midnight Cowboy

1970's
1970 - Patton
1971 - The French Connection
1972 - The Godfather
1973 - The Sting
1974 - The Godfather Part II
1975 - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
1976 - Rocky
1977 - Annie Hall
1978 - The Deer Hunter
1979 - Kramer vs. Kramer

1980's
1980 - Ordinary People
1981 - Chariots of Fire
1982 - Gandhi
1983 - Terms of Endearnment
1984 - Amadeus
1985 - Out of Africa
1986 - Platoon
1987 - The Last Emperor
1988 - Rain Man
1989 - Driving Miss Daisy

1990's
1990 - Dances With Wolves
1991 - The Silence of the Lambs
1992 - Unforgiven
1993 - Schindler's List
1994 - Forrest Gump
1995 - Braveheart
1996 - The English Patient
1997 - Titanic
1998 - Shakespeare in Love
1999 - American Beauty

2000's
2000 - Gladiator
2001 - A Beuatiful Mind
2002 - Chicago
2003 - The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
2004 - Million Dollar Baby

http://academyawards.20m.com/sums/
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:11 AM
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81. Hmmmm, I'd say Gladiator & Titanic out of the recent ones.
Joachim Phoenix is esp. difficult to watch in Gladiator, but Titanic takes the cake as worst for me.

BTW - thanks for the lists, it helps!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:15 PM
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62. The Helen Hunt thing still bemuses me...
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 10:48 AM
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38. Gwyneth Paltrow for Best Actress. What a joke that was!
Oh, it's SO hard to pretend to be in love with Joe Fiennes! :eyes:

And I like Gwyneth, but gee was that stupid.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:30 AM
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42. Yes - especially since she beat out the wonderful Cate Blanchette
in Elizabeth. I loved that movie, I thought it also should have received best picture. Shakespeare in Love was lame.
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NV Whino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 11:58 AM
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44. That was the year
bare boobs won over great acting. Blanchette was robbed. I still seethe over that one. Although, I liked Shakespeare in Love as a whole, Elizabeth was the better movie of the two.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:30 PM
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48. Elizabeth was a top-notch film and Cate Blanchette really showed what
she was capable of in it. I think she was far better in Elizabeth than in The Aviator.

I like Shakespeare in Love, but I don't think it necessarily deserved the award.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:54 PM
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56. BEST ACTRESS AWARDS (1927-2004)
BEST ACTRESS AWARDS - MovieActors.com

27/28 Janet Gaynor, SEVENTH HEAVEN
28/29 Mary Pickford, COQUETTE
29/30 Norma Shearer, THE DIVORCEE
30/31 Marie Dressler, MIN AND BILL
31/32 Helen Hayes, THE SIN OF MADELON CLAUDET
32/33 Katharine Hepburn, MORNING GLORY
1934 Claudette Colbert, IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT
1935 Bette Davis, DANGEROUS
1936 Luise Rainer, THE GREAT ZIEGFELD
1937 Luise Rainer, THE GOOD EARTH
1938 Bette Davis, JEZEBEL
1939 Vivien Leigh, GONE WITH THE WIND

1940 Ginger Rogers, KITTY FOYLE
1941 Joan Fontaine, SUSPICION
1942 Greer Garson, MRS. MINIVER
1943 Jennifer Jones, THE SONG OF BERNADETTE
1944 Ingrid Bergman, GASLIGHT
1945 Joan Crawford, MILDRED PIERCE
1946 Olivia De Havilland, TO EACH HIS OWN
1947 Loretta Young, THE FARMER'S DAUGHTER
1948 Jane Wyman, JOHNNY BELINDA
1949 Olivia De Havilland, THE HEIRESS

1950 Judy Holliday, BORN YESTERDAY
1951 Vivien Leigh, A STREETCAR NAMED DESIRE
1952 Shirley Booth, COME BACK, LITTLE SHEBA
1953 Audrey Hepburn, ROMAN HOLIDAY
1954 Grace Kelly, THE COUNTRY GIRL
1955 Anna Magnani, THE ROSE TATTOO
1956 Ingrid Bergman, ANASTASIA
1957 Joanne Woodward, THE THREE FACES OF EVE
1958 Susan Hayward, I WANT TO LIVE!
1959 Simone Signoret, ROOM AT THE TOP

1960 Elizabeth Taylor, BUTTERFIELD 8
1961 Sophia Loren, TWO WOMEN
1962 Anne Bancroft, THE MIRACLE WORKER
1963 Patricia Neal, HUD
1964 Julie Andrews, MARY POPPINS
1965 Julie Christie, DARLING
1966 Elizabeth Taylor, WHO'S AFRAID OF VIRGINA WOOLF?
1967 Katharine Hepburn, GUESS WHO'S COMING TO DINNER
1968 Katharine Hepburn, and Barbara Streisand (TIE)
1969 Maggie Smith, THE PRIME OF MISS JEAN BRODIE

1970 Glenda Jackson, WOMEN IN LOVE
1971 Jane Fonda, KLUTE
1972 Liza Minnelli, CABARET
1973 Glenda Jackson, A TOUCH OF CLASS
1974 Ellen Burstyn, ALICE DOESN'T LIVE HERE ANYMORE
1975 Louise Fletcher, ONE FLEW OVER THE CUKOO'S NEST
1976 Faye Dunaway, NETWORK
1977 Diane Keaton, ANNIE HALL
1978 Jane Fonda, COMING HOME
1979 Sally Field, NORMA RAE

1980 Sissy Spacek, COAL MINER'S DAUGHTER
1981 Katharine Hepburn, ON GOLDEN POND
1982 Meryl Streep, SOPHIE'S CHOICE
1983 Shirley MacLaine, TERMS OF ENDEARMENT
1984 Sally Field, PLACES IN THE HEART
1985 Geraldine Page, THE TRIP TO BOUNTIFUL
1986 Marlee Matlin, CHILDREN OF A LESSER GOD
1987 Cher, MOONSTRUCK
1988 Jodie Foster, THE ACCUSED
1989 Jessica Tandy, DRIVING MISS DIASY

1990 Kathy Bates, MISERY
1991 Jodie Foster, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
1992 Emma Thompson, HOWARDS END
1993 Holly Hunter, THE PIANO
1994 Jessica Lange, BLUE SKY
1995 Susan Sarandon, DEAD MAN WALKING
1996 Frances McDormand, FARGO
1997 Helen Hunt, AS GOOD AS IT GETS
1998 Gwyneth Paltrow, SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE
1999 Hilary Swank, BOYS DON'T CRY

2000 Julia Roberts, ERIN BROCKOVICH
2001 Halle Berry, MONSTER'S BALL
2002 Nicole Kidman, THE HOURS
2003 Charlize Theron, MONSTER
2004 Hilary Swank, MILLION DOLLAR BABY

http://www.movieactors.com/winw/alist2.htm

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:40 PM
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49. Worst "Best" Picture goes to... CHICAGO. Up against---
Gangs of New York
The Pianist
The Hours
LOTR: The Two Towers

Ridiculous.

Also, that same year Chicago won the award for costume design--that award should have gone hands down to either LOTR or Gangs--the costumes in the Chicago movie were just copies of the costumes used in the stage production.

Plus, it just plain old sucked.

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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 02:46 PM
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50. OH, and last year's Best Actress Award -----
should have gone to Kate Winslet for Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind--one of the most perfect, beautiful films I have ever seen.

Everyone from Hotel Rwanda should have won--that was a film.

The art direction in Finding Neverland was vastly superior to that in The Aviator (which I personally believe was highly overrated, aside from Leo's performance, which was quite good). I'd have to say the same of the film editing for these two--The Aviator won and FN was just superb.

Also, it annoys me that Sideways was even nominated for Best Picture.


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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:17 PM
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63. Agree 100% on Kate Winslet, and all the HR noms
Especially Don Cheadle.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 03:09 PM
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51. Apparently I have more opinions about this than I thought-----
2001: Gladiator--okay movie, not worth the hype.

2002: Denzel Washington (Training Day). Great movie, great performance. But Tom Wilkinson should have had it--In The Bedroom was a phenomenal film. This goes for the Best Actress award as well--Halle Berry was good, but Sissy Spacek was amazing. I also would have pegged Gosford Park for the directing award--great movie if you haven't seen it. And Best Original Screenplay should have gone to The Royal Tenenbaums--still a terribly underrated film.

2003: Hero, biggest upset I can think of. This is one of the most well-made, emotionally jarring movies I have ever seen, and I hate "martial arts" movies in general. This one should have won in the foreign film category, or should have been entered for Best Picture. "The Hands That Built America" from Gangs of New York is an amazing piece of music, although it's tough for me to say it should have beat Eminem, because it made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside to see something so outside the box win an Oscar. And of course, CHICAGO. Total waste of eight bucks.

2004: Ben Kingsley (House of Sand and Fog) deserved the Best Actor here, though Sean Penn (Mystic River) was quite good. No one deserved an award for Cold Mountain--worst. movie. ever. Best Supporting Actress should have gone to Shohreh Aghdashloo (House of Sand and Fog), NOT Renee Zellweger. LOTR deserved the Best Pic, but I think that ROTK was the worst of the three films.

2005: Morgan Freeman's award reeked of "it's about time we gave him an award for something" syndrome. He should have gotten an award for Shawshank, not MDB. If anything, Clive Owen deserved it, though I hated Closer, he gave one hell of a performance. Same with Hillary Swank in MDB--should have gone to Kate Winslet (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind). It upset me that Liam Neeson wasn't even nominated for Kinsey--the film was weird, but he was incredible, as was Laura Linney. Hotel Rwanda wins the award for most underrated (at least at the Oscars) film of the year.

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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 04:53 PM
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55. Gone with that Windbag, Scarlett O'Hara
My revised title rather than the original.

She is the most unlikable heroine in motion pictures.

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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:41 PM
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68. Oh Fiddle-dee-dee, I'll think about it tomorrow!
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:53 AM
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92. Ummm ...

That was kinda the point.

I really dislike the movie, but Vivien Leigh's performance was superb.

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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 05:12 PM
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59. Brenda Blethyn should have won for "Secrets and Lies"
As good as Frances McDormand was, Bill Macy was as much as that movie as she was... but Blethyn transcended her role.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:13 AM
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83. Thank you! I have always thought that. Brenda was brilliant in that movie.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:06 PM
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65. The English Patient. Titanic.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:09 PM
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66. Few people have ever seen it
But Mary Pickford's screeching performance in "Coquette" (1929) is so god awful, it's enough to make you long for the days of silent films. :scared:

They only gave her that award because she was America's Sweetheart and was nearing the end of a long and illustrious career (not to mention she co-founded United Artists).
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 07:28 PM
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67. BEST ACTORS AWARDS (1927-2003)
BEST ACTORS AWARDS - MovieActors.com

27/28 Emil Jannings, THE LAST COMMAND
28/29 Warner Baxter, IN OLD ARIZONA
29/30 George Arliss, DISRAELI
30/31 Lionel Barrymore, A FREE SOUL
31/32 (TIE)...Wallace Beery, and Fredric March,
32/33 Charles Laughton, THE PRIVATE LIFE OF HENRY VIII
1934 Clark Gable, IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT
1935 Victor McLaglen, THE INFORMER
1936 Paul Muni, THE STORY OF LOUIS PASTEUR
1937 Spencer Tracy, CAPTAINS COURAGEOUS
1938 Spencer Tracy, BOY'S TOWN
1939 Robert Donat, GOODBYE, MR. CHIP

1940 James Stewart, THE PHILADELPHIA STORY
1941 Gary Cooper, SERGEANT YORK
1942 James Cagney, YANKEE DOODLE DANDY
1943 Paul Lukas, WATCH ON THE RHINE
1944 Bing Crosby, GOING MY WAY
1945 Ray Milland, THE LOST WEEKEND
1946 Fredric March, THE BEST YEARS OF OUR LIVES
1947 Ronald Colman, A DOUBLE LIFE
1948 Laurence Olivier, HAMLET
1949 Broderick Crawford, ALL THE KINGS MEN

1950 Jose Ferrer, CYRANO DE BERGERAC
1951 Humphrey Bogart, THE AFRICAN QUEEN
1952 Gary Cooper, HIGH NOON
1953 William Holden, STALAG 17
1954 Marlon Brando, ON THE WATERFRONT
1955 Ernest Borgnine, MARTY
1956 Yul Brynner, THE KING AND I
1957 Alec Guinness, THE BRIDGE ON THE RIVER KWAI
1958 David Niven, SEPARATE TABLES
1959 Charlton Heston, BEN-HUR

1960 Burt Lancaster, ELMER GANTRY
1961 Maximilian Schell, JUDGEMENT AT NUREMBERG
1962 Gregory Peck, TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD
1963 Sidney Poitier, LILIES OF THE FIELD
1964 Rex Harrison, MY FAIR LADY
1965 Lee Marvin, CAT BALLOU
1966 Paul Scofield, A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS
1967 Rod Steiger, IN THE HEAT OF THE NIGHT
1968 Cliff Robertson, CHARLY
1969 John Wayne, TRUE GRIT

1970 George C. Scott, PATTON
1971 Gene Hackman, THE FRENCH CONNECTION
1972 Marlon Brando, THE GODFATHER
1973 Jack Lemmon, SAVE THE TIGER
1974 Art Carney, HARRY AND TONTO
1975 Jack Nicholson, ONE FLEW OVER THE CUKOO'S NEST
1976 Peter Finch, NETWORK
1977 Richard Dreyfuss, THE GOODBYE GIRL
1978 John Voight, COMING HOME
1979 Dustin Hoffman, KRAMER VS. KRAMER

1980 Robert De Niro, RAGING BULL
1981 Henry Fonda, ON GOLDEN POND
1982 Ben Kingsley, GANDHI
1983 Robert Duvall, TENDER MERCIES
1984 F. Murray Abraham, AMADEUS
1985 William Hurt, KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN
1986 Paul Newman, THE COLOR OF MONEY
1987 Michael Douglas, WALL STREET
1988 Dustin Hoffman, RAIN MAN
1989 Daniel Day-Lewis, MY LEFT FOOT

1990 Jeremy Irons, REVERSAL OF FUTUNE
1991 Anthony Hopkins, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS
1992 Al Pacino, SCENT OF A WOMAN
1993 Tom Hanks, PHILADELPHIA
1994 Tom Hanks, FORREST GUMP
1995 Nicolas Cage, LEAVING LAS VEGAS
1996 Geoffrey Rush, SHINE
1997 Jack Nicholson, AS GOOD AS IT GETS
1998 Roberto Benigni, LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL
1999 Kevin Spacey, AMERICAN BEAUTY

2000 Russell Crowe, GLADIATOR
2001 Denzel Washington, TRAINING DAY
2002 Adrien Brody, THE PIANIST
2003 Sean Penn, MYSTIC RIVER


http://www.movieactors.com/winm/alist.htm
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:20 PM
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69. I'd have to put Gigi on the list (1958).
Froth and bubble, and it was against Cat On A Hot Tin Roof.

And Vertigo wasn't even nominated for Best Picture that year. What was in the coffee when the
votes were taken?
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:20 PM
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70. Worst "Best Actresses":
Julia f-ing Roberts and Gwenyth g-d Paltrow!
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Matilda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:34 PM
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71. Worst Best Actress:
Edited on Sun Mar-05-06 08:35 PM by Matilda
Julie Andrews for Mary Poppins.

Apart from the fact that I hated the whole film - totally not true to the books - she sang. So what?

Edit: sp.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-05-06 08:40 PM
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72. Titanic
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:44 AM
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73. Crash
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:47 AM
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74. Forrest Gump
I found it completely unwatchable.....just nauseating
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:02 AM
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78. Not Crash (Another Opinion)
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:06 AM
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79. Out of curiosity what didn't you like about it?
I found it to be a nice feel good movie about the 1960's. That being said, Shawshank Redemption was a MUCH better movie.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:13 AM
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84. Hollywood will never live down Shawshank.
People will be talking about it decades from now.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 02:02 AM
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89. I just found it irritating and manipulative
I found the characters cartoonish
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 03:13 AM
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95. That's part of the problem ...

It was a "feel good" movie centered on a guy who lived through tragedy after tragedy and maintained his sunny disposition by repeatedly uttering a few trite phrases. I suppose that's fine if the story isn't trying so hard to be deeply philosophical, which this one clearly was.

That said, I could have lived with this if not for a scene near the end when we become aware that Forrest is aware of and to some degree despondent about his mental disability, the scene where he learns he has a son and wonders if he's smart or like him. That, to me, destroys the entire premise of the film, the idea that he got through all this tragedy mostly because he wasn't aware on a completely conscious level of what was taking place around him. I've always thought of it as the cartoon theory of happiness. Cartoon characters can fly if they don't know they're supposed to fall. You too can be happy if you don't realize everything around you is falling to pieces. This realization that Forrest was aware of his problem actually made me angry that I'd sat through and pretty much suspended my disbelief enough to accept the story because that blew the suspension. If Forrest almost cries when he questions whether his son has inherited his problems and then cries later when Jenny dies, how in the hell did he manage to live through that life before that time so blissfully ignorant?

I suppose what really annoys me is that I know a couple people who are quite a lot like Forrest, one of whom is the brother of a close friend, and he struggles every single day just to survive. He's not entirely aware of everything that happens around him, fitting with the basic theme of most of the movie, and seems mostly happy. But you could see it in his face, especially when he was a kid, that he wanted to get out and play and have friends and be with the rest of the kids. The difficulty of understanding the world as it happens around people like this causes massive levels of confusion, which in itself is a special kind of hell a lot of people simply cannot understand from personal experience. The scenes after Forrest meets his son forced me into comparing his character to a real-life example, and if the movie wanted to do that, it shouldn't have picked that story to tell, one where everything is all fine and dandy and you make billions by chance and live through a Vietnam firefight despite not being able to tie your shoes.

In short, this feel-good movie just makes me sad and not in a thoughtful way.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:21 AM
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97. That wasn't the movie
Forrest was always aware of what was going on around him, from the time he was very little and the principal came out of the house with his mother. Forrest didn't judge, that's all. It was also a story of taking advantage of exactly what you had and exactly what was put in front of you, becaue you didn't pre-judge outcomes and lived by commitments. He had a limited capacity so he didn't overthink things, but that doesn't mean he didn't have a capacity to feel and care. He showed that throughout the movie, he wouldn't have saved Bubba if he didn't care. Not being hard on himself because he was different would be part of his not judging, but it doesn't mean he wouldn't want better for his child, the way all parents do. The way he did for Jenny and Lt. Dan. I think you missed the point of the movie, it wasn't ignorance is bliss, if that's what you thought.
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:08 AM
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101. I didn't miss the point ...

I saw a different point based on a different context of interpretation.

As noted, although perhaps not explained well, my irritation with this movie grew out of the association I made between Forrest and real people who struggle with the difficulties his character faced. The moment I started doing that, it made the movie less entertaining. Up to that point, I was fine with it because the suspension of disbelief that is required to accept all these miraculous things happening to him was sustainable.

I see what you're saying about Forrest's character, about the capacity to feel and care, but through the bulk of the movie this was heavily subdued, and we're never really presented with a character that sees anything except in black and white terms. Almost crying when he meets his son took his character to a different level, one, to my mind, not congruent with what came before. In a different story I could interpret this as the character having grown or evolved, but there's nothing in this to suggest that's what happened, unless it somehow took place during his various treks across the country during scenes that were left to the imagination. Just minutes before he meets his son for the first time, he's talking about Bubba dying right there in his arms by that river in Vietnam in a voice and in a manner that suggest a detachment from the reality that a friend just bled to death in his arms. Take the music out of the scene and the excellent performance by Mykelti Williamson, and there's little emotion to it but what the viewer injects into the situation. And on that note, that's one thing I did like about a lot of the movie up to the end. That is, I liked that Forrest's character wasn't telling me what to think or feel about all this. He functioned as a camera taking in a scene. We get glimpses of his excitement or confusion and even rage, but it's never much. We're not drawn into his mind or his feelings completely.

And, again for me, when the scene came where he met his son he, as you said, wanted better for his child the way all parents do. That indicates he realized that through every bit of his life he had had to struggle very hard. It shows he doesn't want people he loves to have to endure what he did. We don't see that expressed through the previous parts of the film on a level that would indicate the anxiety he felt at that moment. The fact he wasn't hard on himself wasn't the problem; it was that we're not given enough of a realization that he even understands these things about himself until late into the movie. (Upon my first writing, I forgot a scene from a bit earlier in which we do start to see this, but I was remembering my personal experience at the theater and recalling how it hit me on the first viewing the moment he met his son.)

It takes a lot of moxie to base the backdrop of an entire movie on a series of coincidences that throw the main character into so many significant events of history, and I think those involved with making the film did that rather well. In lesser hands, it could have been a complete farce. I don't think the movie was horrible in any sense, but I understand why people don't really like it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:35 AM
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102. I see what you're saying
But I guess I just never saw him as not understanding that he was different, "stupid is as stupid does", after all. And I really don't think he was oblivious to the hookers laughing at him, or the reason Jenny wasn't with him. As for the rest of it, I just saw it as a vehicle to reliving some of the pop culture of the times, I didn't take it as any serious point to the movie. Just comic relief. The characters and relationships were what it was all about to me. Putting much emphasis on realistic connections between Forrest and the historic events would have made a rather stupid movie. But that's just me, and what makes movies, and literature, interesting.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:27 AM
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99. It's not supposed to be deeply philisophical
Well, maybe some people think it is, but I would certainly disagree.

The movie did what it was supposed to, it told a good story and made you feel good at the end. Thinking about it, there's really nothing that I took away from this movie. No lesson, no deeper meaning, nothing. Hence, I don't think it's best picture material. Good movie, though.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 04:36 AM
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100. Relax and live your life
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 04:36 AM by sandnsea
No, not deeply philisophical. But for those depressed about everything we had come through between '64 and '94, very timely message.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 12:59 AM
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77. Shakespeare in Love
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American liberal Donating Member (915 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:07 AM
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80. The year Chariots of Fire (remember the boys in their knickers
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 01:14 AM by American liberal
running barefoot across the beach in slo mo?) won over Reds was a HUGE miscarriage of righteousness, IMHO. Just like picking Crash over Brokeback or, better yet, GNAGL. I FELL ASLEEP during Chariots and was on the edge of my seat during the entire movie for Reds. It was a GREAT, albeit long, story, but so masterfully constructed, based on John Reed's book "10 Days That Shook the World." Although Warren Beatty won for best director, he got robbed that year. Reds DEFINITELY was a waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better film in every meaning of the word than Chariots... Another great example of the Academy's cowardice!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:13 AM
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82. The four hour long tribute to LOTR a few years ago...
That entire show sucked! Nothing but LOTR this and LOTR that. Mystic River got the boot in favor of LOTR.
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melissaf Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:28 AM
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86. And in order to have a sweep for LOTR
they picked that piece of snoozola song by Annie Lennox for Best Song when it was up against "Kiss at the End of the Rainbow" from "A Mighty Wind."

(Yeah, I know worst song isn't on the list we're supposed to be discussing, but I'm still mad about Mitch & Mickey losing!)

(P.S. I don't necessarily think Annie Lennox is bad OR that her song is the Worst Song Ever to win the category. I'm just mad about the Mitch & Mickey thing...)
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:37 AM
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87. "Gladiator," by a mile
Hollywood was so desperate for an epic it rewarded a turgid revenge flick that just happened to have ancient Rome for a milieu.

Had the Academy waited another two years, they would have had the spectacle they sought..."The Fellowship of the Ring."
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melissaf Donating Member (307 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 01:46 AM
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88. not just an epic
Edited on Mon Mar-06-06 01:49 AM by melissaf
The White Man's Epic. That's been the Academy's Best Picture voting pattern for years (at least in the past 15 years or so). "Titanic." "The English Patient." "Forest Gump." All White Men's Epics in some respect.

I happen to think "Traffic" is garbage. But "Gladiator" and "The English Patient" are pretty much tied in my brain for Worst Best Picture.
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BEZERKO Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:15 AM
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104. I didn't realize
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there were so many bad movies to win best picture. I'm listing here what I think are the worst pictures, not pictures that were not as good as others nominated in the same year. That's another thing entirely. As for the worst pictures?

Greatest Show on Earth, The Best Years of Our Lives, Gladiator, and Around the World in 80 Days
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DelawareValleyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:41 AM
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106. cher for best actresses
Glenn Close's performance in Fatal Attraction was one of the finest ever and got snubbed
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 06:53 AM
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107. "Rocky" as Best Film
That was one of the worst fucking Best Picture wins I can remember.
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 08:59 AM
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110. Yo! Whaddya tawking about? We liked it here
And I still see tourists running up the steps of the Art Museum.

Rocky didn't suck as bad as Titanic....
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 07:03 AM
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108. It is all subjective. What makes a wonderful movie to me, may not to
you. That doesn't make either of us right...or wrong. :shrug:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 09:05 AM
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111. Crash, Braveheart, Gump... It always falls down on Best Picture. n/t
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phrenzy Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:04 PM
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112. Props To Titanic... Other guilty Pleasures
I'm one of those 'Guilty' Fans of Titanic. I think it 'worked' on so many levels, even though it was corny and syrupy - it was "done right" IMO. The perfect realization of what it set out to be.

Same w/ Forrest Gump - wow, you guys on this thread make me feel 'dumb' and shallow for being a sucker for that story. That movie also made me cry.

Crash certainly did NOT deserve to win against the one other movie I saw in contention (GNAGL)

I also think Star Wars should have won against Annie Hall, for precisely the same Reason Titanic did. If you judge a movie by what it set out to be, and then how well it executed it, then Star Wars has to win against just about anything.



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Minnesota Libra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:06 PM
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113. The worst picture was Out of Africia when it won over Color Purple nt
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:07 PM
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114. Cher winning 'best actress'
:banghead:
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:11 PM
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115. "Snap out of it"
Gotta disagree with you on that one. I thought she was great in what is one of my fav movies ever!
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 05:31 PM
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116. I couldn't get through the first 1/2 hr of the movie
and I just don't like Cher... acting and singing. Sorry.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-06-06 11:37 PM
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118. 1968 Best Picture Winner "Oliver"
was among the worst. It beat out "Funny Girl," "The Lion in Winter," "Rachel, Rachel," and "Romeo and Juliet." Some of the best films that year weren't even nominated -- "2001: A Space Odyssey," "Rosemary's Baby," "Charly," and "The Heart is a Lonely Hunter" -- all more deserving than "Oliver"

John Wayne winning for "True Grit" in 1969 sucked, too. That was the very essence of Lifetime Achievement Oscar. It had nothing to do with the movie.


Elizabeth Taylor's Oscar for "Butterfield 8" was a sympathy Oscar because she had been on death's doorstep. It also had little to do with the movie.

Even though you didn't ask, Best Performance that didn't win an Oscar - Al Pacino - Best Supporting Actor - "The Godfather." He lost to Joel Gray for "Cabaret," but I think his performance was the best of the year. Period.


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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 05:10 PM
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120. I disagee I think that Oliver! is a wonderful film
and better than "Funny Girl", but my favorite film of that year was "The Lion in Winter" which I would have liked to see win best picture and I think that Peter O' Toole should have won the best actor Oscar as well (Hepburn shared the Oscar that year with Barbara Striesand).

I tend to agree about Wayne for "True Grit"--he deserved to be nominated for "The Searchers" and possibly win for that performance as well. I also think he should have been nominated for his final film "The Shootist", but not necessarily win for it.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-07-06 04:59 PM
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119. Kramer vs. Kramer
I mean, it's not a really bad movie, but it's totally forgettable TV movie-of-the-week soap opera crap, absolutely not in the same league as All That Jazz, Apocalypse Now, or any number of others.

That being said, I hate both The English Patient and Forrest Gump worse than poison.
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DarkSim Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-11-06 10:11 PM
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124. One word: TITANIC
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