Chili with beans or without?

[BikeWriter]

Inquiring minds want to know which you prefer. As for me, beans go in beans, chili goes in chili. 'Nuff said.

[bbinacan]

1. With beans

I like kidney beans but pintos will do in a pinch.

[Lilith Velkor]

3. Must have beans

Black beans work, too.

[bbinacan]

4. Never tried black beans

will have to.

[AngryAmish]

54. Black beans explode pretty easy

Be careful.

[bbinacan]

55. Thanks for the info, should I

add them late in the cooking process?

[AngryAmish]

63. That is what I do

[bbinacan]

64. Thanks. n/t

[applegrove]

95. I love black beans in Chili!

[BikeWriter]

112. Beans in chili make Baby Jeebus cry!

[yellowdogintexas]

125. black beans make great chioi! I also add them near the end

and I rinse them too.

My latest chili incarnation is ground buffalo meat, tons of cumin, chili powder, garlic and a red onion, fresh minced jalapeno, serrano and poblano peppers, some diced tomatoes, salt and sometimes a little red wine.

When I add the beans I add a good handful of fresh snipped cilantro

[BikeWriter]

128. Sounds good, 'cept for them danged frijoles!

[applegrove]

135. I made a big mistake in my last batch. Note to self: Read Can Label.

Tomato sauce instead of chopped Tomatoes. Now I have to have something to water it down.

I like to throw dark green things into Chili. Yes I drain all beans. Didn't use black beans the last time. I could not find them in the store.

[BikeWriter]

107. Do not allow those explosive beans near your chili!

[BikeWriter]

6. But, but, you can get more meat in without the beans!

:shrug:

[HereSince1628]

158. Oh MAN!!!! Black beans with Charizo is 97% of the way to chili

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

176. i've never heard of Black Beans in chili before

are you all pulling the collective leg here? i've not even seen the likes of Black Beans in the grocery.
but perhaps, yet again, i've been missing another boat, this one for the perfect chili. Say It isn't So!!!!!

[BikeWriter]

181. Black beans make good ammo for sling shots...

They're too tough for anything else.

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

183. I am curious about these black beans now

I make it like my Mom always does, with kidney beans and meat. My hubby insists on having macaroni with his chili and cheddar on top.
great thread, thank you.

[BikeWriter]

184. You're welcome. I always enjoy discussing cooking and food.

:)

[trof]

15. Prefer pintos. Kidney beans are trite.

You could look it up.
;-)

[bbinacan]

27. Trite? I don't care

I still prefer kidney beans. Is there something a little more chic in your mind. :eyes:

[LiviaOlivia]

69. You are SO right. Gotta be pintos.

accept no others.

[GOPisEvil]

2. Veggie chili with, meat chili without.

[BikeWriter]

118. Please, think of the children!

[Nikia]

5. A few beans are alright

The ratio of meat to beans should be at least 2:1.

[yvr girl]

7. What's in it if you don't put in beans?

Never had it without.

[BikeWriter]

8. Lots more meat, of course!

:woohoo:

[yvr girl]

11. without beans isn't it just like a spicy, thick

spaghetti sauce?

[BikeWriter]

17. Yes, but chili based. You eat it with tortillas, crackers or chips...

Preferably flour tortillas!

[Patiod]

114. I tell S.O. that chili w/o beans is just a sloppy joe mix

He hates beans in chili

So I say "you don't like beans, YOU make the chili"

[BikeWriter]

116. Your S.O. is right! No beans!

[alarimer]

134. No, it's just the stuff you put on hotdogs!

Chili with beans (and other veggies- peppers and such) is a MEAL.:P

[Benfea]

9. Bring on the beans! -NT

[BikeWriter]

36. ACK! Chili pollution!

[mitchtv]

163. make them Pintos. Chicano style

thank you. Chili no beans for hot dogs
But my specialidad is Chile Verde

[flamingyouth]

10. Vegetarian chili, with beans.

[BikeWriter]

13. I included options for our veggiematarian Sisters and Brothers...

as a gesture of peace. :)

[BlueStorm]

23. Schuler's in my town makes the best veggie chili

[JitterbugPerfume]

12. it is a fact everybody knows

CHILI HAS BEANS


hee hee hee

[BikeWriter]

14. No no no no no no no no beans!

[Texifornia]

162. Chili has NO beans!

Period.

If your chili has beans, than you are DQ'd (disqualified). You know why? BECAUSE IT IS NOT CHILI IF IT HAS BEANS!!!

ay Dios mio!

[BikeWriter]

168. I know you're right, Pard.

:patriot:

[greendog]

19. Chili ~IS~ beans

What could you replace them with? :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

29. More meat! Read the original recipes from Texas!

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Chili/ChiliHistory.htm

[greendog]

48. recipes schmecipes...

...I didn't ask for a damned history lesson! I WANT CHILI! And keep that damned revolting meat AWAY from my beans! :grr: :grr: :grr:

[BikeWriter]

49. Chili has to have meat, or it's not chili!

[greendog]

52. Well, I guess you could call it " Dead Horse Stew" ...

...but, if it's made with meat, it's just not right to call it chili.

Though, I will eat chili cheese-burgers...as long as the chili is made with beans/no meat.

Gimme Beans!

[BikeWriter]

59. If you use chili powder and no meat all you have is chili beans!

[greendog]

66. But if you add...

...tomatos, onions, garlic, and peppers to your beans and chili powder you get "chili".

No meat...just

Beans!!!!

[BikeWriter]

90. Beans? You mean chili beans, not chili?

:shrug:

[YankeyMCC]

16. I've had tasty chili with beans

but I'll choose without beans everytime, that's really how it should be.

[BikeWriter]

24. Thank you. Yes, sans beans is the best!

[trof]

18. It really depends one the use and presentation.

(I LOVE the word "presentation" in food.)

Beans: In a bowl of chili.
No beans: On a chili dog.
It's the law.

[JitterbugPerfume]

21. Yes-- you got it

Trof---no beans on a chili dog

[trof]

32. I am a truly wise man, but you already knew that.

:-)

[BikeWriter]

45. Of course not, nor in chili.

[yellowdogintexas]

126. unless it is a 4 way hot dog in Cincinnati nt

[BikeWriter]

40. Phht!

[BlueCollar]

20. only a philistine eats chili

with beans..

:hide:

[trof]

I'm from Philadelphia, and I resent that.

We DO not!
;-)

[BlueCollar]

25. touche`

nice comeback

[BikeWriter]

26. Ha ha ha ha! Here's a page on the history of chili...

Notice beans are scarcely mentioned? ;-)

http://whatscookingamerica.net/History/Chili/ChiliHistory.htm

[greendog]

56. There's one little problem with your "History of Chili"...

...it starts in Texas.

Leave it to Texans to invent something and leave out the most important ingrediant......

BEANS!

[BikeWriter]

60. Nuh uh, Texans invented it the right way the first time!

Meat and chili peppers!

[Benfea]

83. Texans didn't invent chili. Texanos did. Don't you know anything?

And just for the record, Texans argue with each other about whether or not chili should have beans.

[BikeWriter]

85. Uh, and where are you from that you know so much about Texans...

and our traditional national dish?

[Benfea]

111. I'm just a nobody.

The story I was always told was that Texanos (Texans of Mexican descent) were trying to duplicate molé using ingredients that could be found in Texas.

The only other theory of chili's origin involves an attempt to duplicate pemmican, which would mean the ultimate inventors of chili would be people who lived nowhere near Texas and have nothing to do with Texas heritage/history/culture.

[BikeWriter]

115. Nope, chili originated in San Antonio...

Most historians agree that the earliest written description of chili came from J. C. Clopper, who lived near Houston. He wrote of visiting San Antonio in 1828: "When they have to pay for their meat in the market, a very little is made to suffice for the family; it is generally cut into a kind of hash with nearly as many peppers as there are pieces of meat--this is all stewed together."

Except for this one quote, which does not mention the dish by name, historians of heat can find no documented evidence of chili in Texas before 1880. Around that time in San Antonio, a municipal market-El Mercado-was operating in Military Plaza. Historian Charles Ramsdell noted that "the first rickety chili stands" were set up in this marketplace, with the bowls of red sold by women who were called `chili queens.'
http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/chiliconcarne1.asp

[Benfea]

119. Funny you should cite that as your source

…as the Chili Queens were Texanos ("Tejanas"?). Furthermore, the single documented reference does not identify if the chili originated with Texanos or Texas gringos, so it doesn't back up your argument at all.

[BikeWriter]

122. Texans are Texans. Whether black, of European origin...

or indigneous Americans for that matter. :shrug:

[Texifornia]

164. YUP

n/t

[BlueStorm]

22. Gotta have beans

Chili wouldn't be chili without it.
Blu

[BikeWriter]

33. Yes, it is! Hey, welcome to The Lounge, even if you don't like good chili.

[BlueStorm]

35. Hey thanks!!

[BikeWriter]

37. Hee hee hee! We have lots of good discussions like this...

We hope you'll like it here. ;-)

[BlueStorm]

38. Yes I know...

I have come here before and I know how racacous it can get. LOL

Blu

[BikeWriter]

44. Oh, yeah! :-)

[trof]

41. Knewbies Know!

In a bowl?
Beans.
Welcome to our happy band.
:hi:

[BlueStorm]

46. Thanks again...

I have a recipe for something called Aloha Chili. It's actually my dad's but it is very good. It has a sweet flavor due to the pineapple chunks that are in it...

Blu

[BikeWriter]

47. Ack, I knew it! Pineapples in chili!

[BlueStorm]

53. Hawiian recipe.. lol

[BikeWriter]

61. No luau is complete without it, huh?

:-)

[Rabrrrrrr]

28. Seriously? This is a debate? How can you have chili without beans?

Hell, even in Hawaii they use beans in their "chili".

Chili is tomatoes and red beans and peppers, and then, if one wants, other things can be added, like meat or cheese or, ick, macaroni.

[BikeWriter]

31. Hawaii ain't Texas! Do they put pineapple in it, too?

[trof]

39. Oh jeez. Pineapple. I got tears in my eyes.

I'm laughing so hard I'm snorting.
thank you

[BikeWriter]

42. Ha ha ha ha ha! You're very welcome, Trof!

[Celeborn Skywalker]

149. No, never beans.

A good chili should consist of cubed up meat, onions, garlic, a can or two of tomatoes (optional), some spices (chipotle, oregano, cumin, ancho chile powder, etc.) and a bottle of good amber ale. If one wants the chili to be slightly thinner, they can add some beef stock.

[BikeWriter]

152. There you go! We want chili, not vegetable stew.

[lakemonster11]

30. My favorite chili recipes

have several types of beans and lots of veggies. Meat chilis are all right occasionally, but I could live on vegetarian chilis most of the year.

[BikeWriter]

34. Why do you hate America?

[trof]

43. I usually put brocolli and tofu in mine.

not

[lakemonster11]

51. You don't need to put tofu in it, it has beans in it.

:eyes:

I've never had chili with broccoli in it. I have had various chilis with:
- peppers (jalapeno, serrano, habanero, bell, anaheim...)
- greens (turnip, collard, mustard, spinach...)
- winter squash (pumpkin, delicata, butternut...)
- summer squash (zucchini, yellow, crookneck...)
- potatoes, sweet potatoes
- tomatoes
- onions
- black beans, white beans, kidney beans, pinto beans, black-eyed peas...

I've had chili served with:
- bread (cornbread, rustic bread, sandwich bread...)
- rice (different varieties of white and brown)
- pasta
- crackers

I've had chilis that were flavored with beer, tequila, coffee, chocolate...

I've had chilis topped with cheese, avocado, sour cream, Greek yogurt, onion, and even toasted pumpkin seeds.


The world of food isn't divided into meat and broccoli. :eyes:

[BikeWriter]

73. Your's is an all encompassing post. You've eaten most every chili...

are you pro-bean or against? :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

50. This one didn't take long to get to fifty!

[Divameow77]

57. Gotta say

NO BEANS! That might be because I hate beans though :-)

[BikeWriter]

72. Sweet Lady, I appreciate that. Your no bean declaration...

has endeared you to me. I do so aggree with your opinion!

[Lady Effingbroke]

58. .

no beans

[BikeWriter]

89. Freak'n A right, Dear Lady. No beans!

[Arkansas Granny]

62. Gimme some beans in mine.

[BikeWriter]

75. Oh, Granny! I am pierced to the core! You're a pro-beaner?

[Arkansas Granny]

97. Without beans it's kind of like you left the rice out of gumbo.

It's still good, but there's something missing.

[BikeWriter]

101. Oh, Granny! Beans are wonderful, but not in the chili!

[Tom Yossarian Joad]

65. Wierd! I'm making Chile as we type!

With beans (Kidney) and 5 different types of peppers, freshly ground cumin and other things that are so secret that I cannot type them here.

[BikeWriter]

82. Just a gosh darn minute here! There may be children reading this!

Sacrilege!

[In_The_Wind]

67. I like it without beans.

I won't turn it down with beans in it.

What I really really don't like is vegetarian chili.

[BikeWriter]

76. My Dear Joan, I will pardon your words past your first statement!

Thank you, Dear. ;-)

[NoPasaran]

68. If it's got beans it ain't chili

It's some strange mutant faux chili. I bet they eat it in France.

[BikeWriter]

77. Thank you, Brother! Your words of truth ring loud and true!

:-)

[Floogeldy]

70. Beans are good for you.

PPPFFFFFTTT!!!!!!!

:)

[BikeWriter]

80. ...

[bertha katzenengel]

71. Chili with no meat.

How can chili be chili without beans? :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

84. Bertha, my Friend. Your cats are right. Meat is delicious!

Beans will give one... unfortunate toxic emissions...

[bertha katzenengel]

120. LOL

:hi: BW 21:hug:2

the 21 and 2 are from Daddy the Cat. He's rubbing his face on my knuckles. :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

124. See? Daddy Cat agrees with me. Chili should have meat!

:hi: Waving a hand at Daddy Cat.

[yewberry]

74. Vegetarian chili without beans is

sauce.

[XemaSab]

79. Amen!

Very, very watery sauce at that.

[BikeWriter]

87. Add lots of meat, Sweety. ;-)

[BikeWriter]

86. Yes'm, add meat and you have some good eatin'.

[yewberry]

88. Way to ruin perfectly good chili, bub.

Geez.

[BikeWriter]

91. So did the first chili heads use meat or tofu?

[yewberry]

92. "Chili heads?"

Is that some kind of cult or something?

[BikeWriter]

103. Yes, it is.

[SammyWinstonJack]

78. My native born Texan husband always says no to beans in chili.

[BikeWriter]

81. Thank you, Darling. Your man is a gentleman and a true Texan!

[Lethe]

93. traditional Texas style chili has no beans

but....i'm texas native born and bred and i like beans in my chili

[BikeWriter]

100. Say what? You were doing so good with your first sentence, too!

[Nicole]

94. No beans

Beanless chili served with jalapeno cornbread here.

[BikeWriter]

105. Woo hoo! Way to go, Nicole!

[billyskank]

96. beans beans good for the heart

:D

[BikeWriter]

108. ...

[samplegirl]

98. Beans beans the musical

fruit. I love chili beans.

[BikeWriter]

109. Yes'm, but chili beans is not chili!

[AussieDave]

99. With beans - you're going to fart afterwards anyway

so you may as well get the fiber.

[BikeWriter]

104. Do you make it with roo meat, too?

[AussieDave]

137. No mate - I think roo meat would be a bit gamey for chili

though it's excellent in its own right.

[BikeWriter]

151. Well, you'd just as well add roo meat, if you're going to add beans!

:rofl:

[Callalily]

102. With bean

Here's my MOST favorite chili recipe. It's the best. Notice the merlot? Just serve the remainder with the meal.

All-American Chili
From Cooking Light

6 ounces hot turkey Italian sausage
2 cups chopped onion
1 cup chopped green bell pepper
8 garlic cloves, minced
1 pound ground sirloin
1 jalapeño pepper, chopped
2 tablespoons chili powder
2 tablespoons brown sugar
1 tablespoon ground cumin
3 tablespoons tomato paste
1 teaspoon dried oregano
1/2 teaspoon freshly ground black pepper
1/4 teaspoon salt
2 bay leaves
1 1/4 cups Merlot or other fruity red wine
2 (28-ounce) cans whole tomatoes, undrained and coarsely chopped
2 (15-ounce) cans kidney beans, drained
1/2 cup (2 ounces) shredded reduced-fat sharp cheddar cheese

Heat a large Dutch oven over medium-high heat. Remove casings from sausage. Add sausage, onion, and the next 4 ingredients (onion through jalapeño) to pan; cook 8 minutes or until sausage and beef are browned, stirring to crumble.

Add chili powder and the next 7 ingredients (chili powder through bay leaves), and cook for 1 minute, stirring constantly. Stir in wine, tomatoes, and kidney beans; bring to a boil. Cover, reduce heat, and simmer 1 hour, stirring occasionally.

Uncover and cook for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Discard the bay leaves. Sprinkle each serving with cheddar cheese.

Note: Like most chilis, this version tastes even better the next day.


Yield: 8 servings (serving size: 1 1/4 cups chili and 1 tablespoon cheese)

NUTRITION PER SERVING
CALORIES 375(29% from fat); FAT 12g (sat 4.6g,mono 4.1g,poly 1.1g); PROTEIN 28.9g; CHOLESTEROL 59mg; CALCIUM 165mg; SODIUM 969mg; FIBER 8.2g; IRON 5mg; CARBOHYDRATE 33.7g

[BikeWriter]

106. Chili Appreciation Society International (CASI) rules! No (0) beans!

2. NO FILLERS IN CHILI - Beans, macaroni, rice, hominy, or other similar ingredients are not permitted.
http://www.chili.org/rules.html

[SmileyBoy]

113. AMEN, BikeWriter!!!

Testify!!!

[BikeWriter]

117. The truth shall set you free!

:patriot:

[SmileyBoy]

110. WITHOUT. I don't like the tactile feeling of kidney beans.

[Danmel]

121. I make mine with ground turkey

It is so heavily seasoned you don't really know the difference.

[BikeWriter]

123. Hee hee hee! I make what I call a Cajun Chili sometimes, with seafood...

It's like a Jambalaya, but with chili powder. ;-)

[yellowdogintexas]

127. I like beans in the chili, it is a personal taste. It is also a very

economical way to stretch a small amount of ground meat to feed many people.

The genuine Bowl of Red was highly spiced meat with chilis, and other seasonings cooked to produce a soup/stew/gravy like consistency. The beans were served on the side, by the old chuck wagon cooks. Or so it says in my favorite source of chili recipes "Chili Madness"



Interesting no discussion of Cincinnati Chili yet.

I like mine 5 way.

[BikeWriter]

130. At least you do know the genuine way.

:(

[JVS]

129. Without beans it won't make you as farty!

[BikeWriter]

131. You got that right, Pard! I like beans, too, but not in my chili.

[bigwillq]

132. Gotta have the beans!

:)

[BikeWriter]

133. ACK! Et tu, Bigwill?

[no name no slogan]

136. Pull my finger

to find out

[BikeWriter]

139. ...

[sendero]

138. Beans are great....

... but real chili doesn't have any beans in it :)

[BikeWriter]

140. You got that right, Pard. Real chili doesn't need beans!

[Minnesota Libra]

141. I HATE BEANS about as much as I HATE.........

.....rethugs. :puke:

[Bridget Burke]

142. Umm.... It depends!

"Home made" chili-style dishes can include beans. You know, ground beef, canned tomatoes, onions, chili powder & canned beans. This is not "serious" chili--but a good quick dish for a cold day.

Or you can cook the beans separately & let the diners do the mixing. (Also offer garnishes like chopped green onions & grated cheddar.) Or pour the chili over rice or pasta. Skinner makes Lone Star Pasta--in the shape of Texas! On the package, you'll find their recipe for Texas Rattlesnake Chili:
www.skinnerpasta.com/recipe/Recipe.asp?R=1291

Then, there's "serious" chili. I met a few real chili-heads in the old days--Terlingua pioneers. Ingredients ranged from secret super-chile mixes through exotic meats. Not to forget the tequila--in the chili or in the cooks. In those circles, beans were forbidden.

When I feel serious, Wick Fowler's 2-Alarm Chili Kit will do the trick. And I'll use cubed or "chili-ground" meat rather than "hamburger-ground."

[BikeWriter]

187. Wick Fowler's Chili Kits work pretty good...

I usually go from scratch, though. Many of the stores here will have a coarse ground meat for chili, too.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

143. What the fuck is in vegetarian chili without beans?

Seriously, isn't that just spicy tomato soup?? :wtf: :shrug:

[BikeWriter]

188. Right; you should add lots of beef!

[Arugula Latte]

144. NO meat. LOTSA beans. And corn. And Peppers. And onions.

Now THAT is good eating.

Ruminate on that, Bike Writer!!! :7

[BikeWriter]

146. Ack! Where's the beef (or venison)?

:shrug:

[BikeWriter]

161. Ahh, hell, Add carrots, too, that's vegetable soup, not chili!

[Taverner]

145. Chili is like BBQ...definition depends on region

Like in Texas, they don't add too many beans. In California, Texas Chili is called Chili Con Carne as opposed to chili, which just has beans.

And of course, there is my favorite, black bean chili - which usually employs little meat and all beans.

[CBGLuthier]

147. purists may not like beans but I got a family to feed

Actually I make both kinds. We make a beanless thicker variety for 4 way (chili over spaghetti with cheese and onions).

But when it's just a bowl of red then I put lots of beans in it. Black beans, kidney beans, pinto beans and sometimes some great northerns.

[BikeWriter]

157. You put Northern beans in Chili? That's sacrilege!

[Ron Green]

148. Hey, Bike Writer, it's apparent from the responses to this thread that

many DUers, as wonderful as they are, don't know about chili con carne. H. Allen Smith, a famous Yankee writer, once got into a big feud with Frank X. Tolbert, a real chili man, about beans vs. no-beans. Any real Texan knows that meat and spices are what goes into chili, and all this stuff about "vegetarian" and "poured over spaghetti" are fine ideas for mealtime, but certainly outside the realm of a "Bowl of Red."

Some people also think "barbecue" is a verb. God bless 'em anyway.

[BikeWriter]

154. Yep, you're right. I recall reading about it. Here's Tolbert's recipe:

Frank X. Tolbert's Original Bowl of Red
12 dried ancho chiles
3 lbs lean beef chuck, cut in thumbsize pieces
2 ounces beef suet
1 tablespoon ground cumin
1 tablespoon dried oregano
1 tablespoon cayenne
1 tablespoon Tabasco sauce
2 cloves garlic, chopped (or more)
1 tablespoon salt
2 tablespoons masa harina (optional)

4-6 servings Change size or US/metric
Change to: servings US Metric

2 hours 40 minutes 40 mins prep

Break off the stems of the chiles, and remove the seeds.
Place chiles in a small saucepan and cover them with water.
Simmer for 30 minutes.
Purée the chiles in a blender with a tiny bit of cooking liquid to make a smooth, thin paste.
Use as little liquid as possible, unless you want the chili to be soupy.
Pour the chile purée into a Dutch oven or large, heavy pan.
In a heavy skillet, sear the meat in two batches with the beef suet until the meat is gray.
Transfer each batch to the chile purée, then pour in enough of the chile cooking liquid to cover the meat by about 2 inches.
Bring the chili to a boil; reduce heat to a simmer.
Cook for 30 minutes.
Remove the chili from the heat, and stir in the rest of the ingredients.
Return chili to the heat, cover and resume simmering for 45 minutes, keeping the lid on except to stir just occasionally.
(Too much stirring tears up the meat) Add more chile liquid only if you think the mixture will burn otherwise.
After 45 minutes, you may add the masa harina, if you wish.
The masa adds a subtle, tamale-like taste, but it also thickens the chili.
Cover the chili again and simmer for another 30 minutes.
Do a lot of tasting to see if seasoning suits you.
Add more seasonings as you like, but go easy on the oregano to avoid ending up with a spaghetti sauce flavor.
Take the chili off the heat, and refrigerator overnight.
Skim as much fat as you wish from the chili before reheating it.
Serve hot.
http://www.recipezaar.com/43498

[texas1928]

150. Beans do not make chili.

It is called Chili con carne if it has beans. Pure Chili, has no beans.

[BikeWriter]

155. Tex, some of these folks like bean soup!

:rofl:

[Texifornia]

167. I'll tell you what else

If it don't make you sweat, it ain't real chili neither.

[BikeWriter]

171. You got that right, Pard. I made a batch at work before I retired...

that was delicious! There were two brothers named Cantu on our crew, both of them grads of a culinary school in Houston. They worked at their Brother's Mexican restaurant on the side. They kept telling me the chili was too hot, as they ate bowl after bowl!

[otohara]

174. Exactly - and One Has Pork, the Other Has Ground Beef

it's a Mexican/white thing - Ay Carumba

[Pacifist Patriot]

153. How do you make chili without beans? It doesn't compute.

[BikeWriter]

156. With beans it's just vegetable soup!

That's okay, too, but not for chili purists!

[leftstreet]

159. Without beans it's just a bowl of ground-up dead cow.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Yes, I voted for the Veggie option

[BikeWriter]

166. Aarrgghh! I love me some dead cow in my Chili!

[leftstreet]

170. You can bake bean-less chili = it's called meatloaf

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BikeWriter]

172. More sacrilege!

[Burma Jones]

160. Beans are Optional

The best Chili I've had consisted of diced beef and pork, slowly stewed with a variety of hot and mild Peppers with cumin, fatback and onion. This was served with a side of beans and rice as well as corn tortillas.


Beans, Vegetarian Chili, Pasta, Cheese etc. are all variations on the above "Mother" recipe, in much the same way you make mac and cheese base from a béchamel or any number of sauces from a hollandaise

[BikeWriter]

173. The cooks knew what they were doing with beans on the side...

Green chile can be made much the same, with the addition of Green chiles and sometimes with tomatillos. I prefer flour tortillas with either red or green chile.

[otohara]

165. My Green Chili

pinto beans on the side....

[BikeWriter]

169. There ya go! Good choice!

:)

[BikeWriter]

175. Lady Bird Johnson's Pedernales River Chili

4 pounds coarsely ground beef

1 large onion, chopped

2 cloves garlic, chopped

1 teaspoon oregano

1 teaspoon ground cumin

6 teaspoons New Mexican red chile powder (or more for heat)

2 16-ounce cans tomatoes

2 cups hot water

Salt to taste

Combine the beef, onion, and garlic in a skillet and sear until the meat is lightly browned.

Transfer this mixture to a large pot, add the remaining ingredients, and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat and simmer for an hour.

When done, transfer the chili to a bowl and place it in the refrigerator. When the fat has congealed on top, remove it with a spoon.

Reheat the chili and serve it as LBJ liked it--without beans and accompanied with a glass of milk and saltine crackers.

Yield: 12 servings

Heat Scale: Medium

http://www.fiery-foods.com/dave/chiliconcarne5.asp

[trof]

177. Never ground beef and never tomatoes.

CUBED meat, about 1/4-1/2 inch.
And tomatoe sauce or paste.
I don't want to SEE pieces of tomatoe.
Just want the flavor.

[sendero]

179. My favorite way...

... is to use about half coarsely ground and half cubed. Ends up with a nice texture.

I used to be a purist and manually chop up 4 lbs of lean meat into cubes. I have since found that lean meat does not make the best chili, need a bit of fat in there :)

[BikeWriter]

185. I'm in agreement on lean beef being too lean for tasty chili...

It doesn't taste rich enough.

[BikeWriter]

186. Don't tell Lady Bird that!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

178. Beans Beans The Musical Fruit

The more you eat
The more you Toot,
The more you Toot
The better You feel

So Eat Some Beans At Every Meal!

esp.w/Chili!

[BikeWriter]

180. Go ahead, add Mexican jumping beans. You won't have to stir!

[OnceUponTimeOnTheNet]

182. lol n/t