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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 10:59 AM
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Living on air: what do you think of this ?
Edited on Sat Nov-29-03 11:17 AM by creativelcro
Living on air; medical tests on saint suspended

http://sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13319688


Thursday, 27 November , 2003, 17:42

Ahmedabad: Medical tests to determine the veracity of a claim of a saint subsisting without food or water for the past 65 years were suspended as the hospital authorities found the heavy rush of devotees for "darshan" disrupting the procedure.
Clad in women's attire, Prahlad Jani or 'Mataji' as he is popularly known, carries a trident. He belongs to the temple town of 'Ambaji,' about 150 km north of Ahmedabad.



The 76-year-old Jani is believed to have spent most of his time meditating in the caves of Ambaji. He claims to have received divine blessings when he was eight and since then his need for food and water have disappeared.

Mataji's' medical observation for 11 days at Sterling hospital from November 12 had aroused the curiosity of the medical faternity here. Even New Delhi's Defence Institute of Physiology and Allied Sciences (DIPAS) and Association of Physicians of Ahmedabad had evinced interest in the observation.

Speaking to UNI, the Director of Sterling Hospital Dr V N Shah said during the observation period of 11 days the saint did not pass urine or stool, nor did he take a single morsel of food or drink a drop of water.

"A normal human being can remain without urinating for a maximum of seven days, after which they are bound to suffer from renal failure," opines Dr Sudhir V Shah, in-charge of the observation.

"He had shown evidence of formation of urine, which seemed to be re-absorbed from his bladder wall. However, the present committee does not have any scientific explanation for the same," he added.

"The observations ere conducted to find the scientific truth behind Jani's ability and to see if such abilities can be replicated in other humans," Dr Shah said.

"The 11-day observation, however, do not justify his claims that he has been living without food or water for the past 65 years," he added.

The team of doctors monitoring the 'mythical Mataji' are now planning to resume their observations in the near future.

Giving details, Dr Shah said Jani had been under observation from November 12. He was kept in a specially prepared room enclosed in glass. The toilet was sealed off. His activities were monitored round-the-clock through two cameras kept in the room and with security posted outside the room. Hospital staff, on a rotational basis, stayed inside the room all the time.

"However, he was allowed free movement in the room and was allowed to offer prayers as per his requirement," he added.

"Initially the attempt was to monitor Jani for seven days but his excellent health allowed us to prolong our observation. But the mad rush of visitors seeking 'darshan' at the hospital forced us to discharge him after 11 days. He walked out of the hospital in fine health," said Dr V N Shah.

"The results of the first phase of observation, though inconclusive can be summed up as: Jani remained fit and survived his 11 days of observation, he did not take food or water in any form, his blood pressure and pulse were within the physiological range of a normal human, the observation revealed that Jani had an extraordinary ability to stay alive for prolonged periods without eating or drinking," Dr Shah said.

"His biological organs and systems are in far better shape than those of people of his age," he added.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:12 AM
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1. Wow, nifty
If it bears out and we can discover a way to replicate this process in other humans, it might provide insight into new technologies.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:17 AM
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2. right, even 11 days without food and water would be good!
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:26 AM
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3. That would be awesome!
Prior to one flake of snow falling, I would no longer have to partake in the Baltimore ritual of running out to the store to stock up on bread, milk, and toilet paper.
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 03:52 PM
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8. They do this in Baltimore too!
Wow! Let them even mention the POSSIBILITY of snow and people in St Louis will head to the store as if they are going to get snowed in, a la Little House on the Prairie!

Oy vey! It's a big joke around here that all the bread, milk and eggs will be gone at the mention of snow.

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PunkinPi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 11:32 AM
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4. I saw him last night on the news (pbs),
he looked pretty spry for a 76 year older, who hasn't eaten in 65 years. Quite possibly, the best example of "mind over matter" ever.
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Zorro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:06 PM
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5. He's got a Twinkie stash somewhere
They don't call them fakirs for nothing.
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creativelcro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:11 PM
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6. I don't buy the 65 yr fasting thing BUT...
it looks like they were careful for the 11 days they locked him up and tested him... I'd like to see more details though...
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 12:18 PM
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7. Wow, think of how much
we all could acomplish without eating and drinking! now if we could only find a way to get by without sleep....:-)
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 04:43 PM
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9. i read this a few days ago
and supposedly, this guy has a hole in his palate. he doesn't actually drink any water, but he washes his mouth out with it and a tiny bit makes its way inside. :shrug:
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-03 09:53 PM
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10. I wonder just how
closely he's being monitered. In the past such claims of living entirely without food or water invariably turn out to be false. Some people are very good at sneaking small amounts of food. And of course people die fairly quickly with no water whatsoever.

In short, I simply don't believe that someone has actually gone entirely without food or water for 65 days, let alone 65 years.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 10:54 AM
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11. creativelcro
Per DU copyright rules
please post only 4
paragraphs from the
news source.

Thank you.

NYer99
DU Moderator
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 11:17 AM
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12. Was his mouth taped shut during showers?
If not, I think I know how he did it.

LICK BUSH Buttons, Stickers & Magnets
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-03 12:04 PM
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13. This is just another remake of the....
...ol' "I've invented the Perpetual Motion Machine" crap.

The body demands heat to work...food provides the heat.
Take my word for it...this dude is as phony as John Edwards.
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