When did the genre known as 'rock and roll' die?

[Deja Q]

Many have said that "Huey Lewis & The News" was the last great rock band... ditto for "Dire Straits".

What sayeth you?

[AKPacker]

1. 1974

Disco began...Nuff said!

:banghead:

edited for speeling...I meant spelling

[Reverend_Smitty]

2. Even Homer Simpson agrees with that one

"Everyone knows rock n' roll attained perfection in 1974. It's a scientific fact."--Homer Simpson

[hiaasenrocks]

3. Maybe around '89 or '90. But....

as long as Lindsey Buckingham is still writing and performing music, I won't declare rock dead.

Did anyone see him last night on PBS's "Sound Stage"? Awesome.

[AKPacker]

4. I didn't see it and bet it was good

but, I personally prefer him with Stevie!

:headbang:

[hiaasenrocks]

9. She was there. Did two songs w/him. n/t

[AKPacker]

12. OMG

I missed it. I still carry a ticket stub in my wallet from when I saw Rumors live! I think I am going to go quietly into the corner and flagellate myself. :cry:

[hiaasenrocks]

39. The two songs she did with him were....

Never Going Back Again
Say Goodbye

There are no pics of the two of them from that show, but here's one of Buckingham (not rocking ;) )

[pitohui]

26. lindsey buckingham -- rock..? jeebus

even in their day, which was 30 yrs ago, i don't recall fleetwood mac trying to pass themselves off as rock

they were pop another matter entirely

[AKPacker]

29. There are different tastes for different people

Granted they were not hard core rock, but they did have a message that meant quite a bit to us back in the day!

[hiaasenrocks]

38. No. People can NOT have their own opinions.

:yoiks:

[AKPacker]

40. I fail to

understand your logic. My taste in music was not influenced by anyone else. I like what I like! People are capable and DO form there own opinions about everything that effects them.

[hiaasenrocks]

46. My post was total....

:sarcasm:

[AKPacker]

47. Sorry

I guess I am a little touchy tonight.

[ProfessorGAC]

58. You Can Have Your Own Opinion

As long as it meets with my approval. So, anytime you think you have an opinion, PM me and i'll let you know if it's ok or not.

See how easy this is?
The Professor

[hiaasenrocks]

37. LOL

Another "How can you have that opinion?" post.

Shall we debate which is better: wheat or white bread? :)

Challenging a person's taste is something I stopped doing around 11th grade, I think.

Carry on...

[begin_within]

5. When they started using it in TV commercials

[AKPacker]

6. The day that the Who

turned up in a Hummer commercial is the day the music died

[Midlodemocrat]

7. It didn't. It lives on. And will as long as I do.

Down at the Astoria the scene was changing,
Bingo and rock were pushing out X-rating,
We were the first band to vomit in the bar,
And find the distance to the stage too far,
Meanwhile it's getting late at ten o'clock,
Rock is dead they say,
Long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

People walk in sideways pretending that they're leaving,
We put on our makeup and work out all the lead-ins,
Jack is in the alley selling tickets made in Hong Kong,
Promoter's in the pay box wondering where the band's gone,
Back in the pub the governor stops the clock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

Landslide, rocks are falling,
Falling down 'round our very heads,
We tried but you were yawning,
Look again, rock is dead, rock is dead, rock is dead.

The place is really jumping to the high-watt amps,
'Til a 20-inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps,
In the blackout they dance right into the aisle,
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles,
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.

Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

[AKPacker]

8. Yes

:headbang:

[stlsaxman]

52. The exact date of the death of rock is 9/7/78.

It died with Keith Moon.





pics unceremoniously stolen from http://www.thewhomovie.com/

[Oeditpus Rex]

10. Rock 'n' roll is here to stay

It will never die
It was meant to be that way
No, I don't know why
I don't care what people say
Rock 'n' roll is here to stay



HELL, yes! :headbang:

[Wapsie B]

11. Long Live Rock!

Down at the Astoria the scene was changing,
Bingo and rock were pushing out X-rating,
We were the first band to vomit in the bar,
And find the distance to the stage too far,
Meanwhile it's getting late at ten o'clock,
Rock is dead they say,
Long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

People walk in sideways pretending that they're leaving,
We put on our makeup and work out all the lead-ins,
Jack is in the alley selling tickets made in Hong Kong,
Promoter's in the pay box wondering where the band's gone,
Back in the pub the governor stops the clock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

Landslide, rocks are falling,
Falling down 'round our very heads,
We tried but you were yawning,
Look again, rock is dead, rock is dead, rock is dead.

The place is really jumping to the high-watt amps,
'Til a 20-inch cymbal fell and cut the lamps,
In the blackout they dance right into the aisle,
And as the doors fly open even the promoter smiles,
Someone takes his pants off and the rafters knock,
Rock is dead, they say,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.

Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock,
Long live rock, long live rock, long live rock.

Long live rock, I need it every night,
Long live rock, come on and join the line,
Long live rock, be it dead or alive.

[AKPacker]

13. To me "Who's Next" is the greatest rock album of all time!

Teenage Wasteland and Baba O'Riely were my anthems in my youth!


Out here in the fields,
I fight for my meals,
I get my back into my living.
I won't need to fight,
to prove I'm right,
I don't need to be forgiven.

Don't cry,
don't raise your eye,
it's only teenage wasteland.

Sally take my hand,
travel south cross land,
put out the fire,
and don't look past my shoulder.
The exodus is here,
the happy ones are near,
let's get together, before we get much older.

Teenage wasteland,
it's only teenage wasteland,
teenage wasteland,
oh oh, teenage wasteland,
they're all wasted!

[Carni]

20. I agree with you but Quadrophenia had some great images in the film

I think I watched that thing at the *midnight movies* about thirty times lol

[AKPacker]

25. Yes... Quadrophenia is second in my line up

But Townsend letting go on Next never fails to get my juices flowing. After 27 years, I can still put that album on and sing at the top of my lungs and it makes me feel incredible! Where did music like that go?

[stlsaxman]

53. Agreed- w/ Quadrophenia & Tommy tied for 2nd place.

When Entwistle died I got into the car, put Who's Next in the cd player and drove around the interstate by-pass (I-270) for 3 entire play-throughs at full blast.

What a wholly glorious album THAT is!

[ProfessorGAC]

59. Um! Those Two Songs You Mentioned Are The Same Song

Baba O'Reilly is the song with the reference to Teenage Wasteland! No?
The Professor

[dolo amber]

14. The day Elvis signed to RCA

[johnnie]

16. I was gonna say

The day Elvis got drafted.

[pitohui]

28. johnnie gets it

once upon a time everyone knew this bit of american history, that they took elvis to kill rock 'n roll -- and that they succeeded, even elvis didn't rock any more (in the ghetto, christ, he would have been better musically speaking if he'd just shot himself right then and there)

then the beatles came and "pop" took over again

but there was a time in the late 50s when rock actually existed and was fashionable

now it's just a word most don't know what rock is

and if they're truly w.out a clue they think huey lewis is rock!

[Beware the Beast Man]

15. Huey Lewis and the fucking News???

I can't. i just can't. :cry:

[KitchenWitch]

56. My thoughts exactly

:grr:

[jane_pippin]

68. Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and third that sentiment.

Because if I don't, part of my soul will wither up and die to the lilting strains of "It's Hip to be Square."

[Taverner]

70. Sorry man, they WERE a good band

Maybe pop, but get this:

- They could play their insturments. Well.
- They could write catchy hooks
- They did more than sing and flail about on stage

[GreatCaesarsGhost]

17. for me, when they started wearing make-up

glitter rock

[Carni]

18. Those damned *hair bands* screwed everything up

The 80's were an ugly time for *rock* -- VERY UGLY!

[wildhorses]

19. this is what Neil Young has to say about it

Hey hey, my my
Rock and roll can never die
There’s more to the picture
Than meets the eye.
Hey hey, my my.

Out of the blue and into the black
You pay for this, but they give you that
And once you’re gone, you can’t come back
When you’re out of the blue and into the black.

The king is gone but he’s not forgotten
Is this the story of johnny rotten?
It’s better to burn out ’cause rust never sleeps
The king is gone but he’s not forgotten.

Hey hey, my my
Rock and roll can never die
There’s more to the picture
Than meets the eye.

[mac56]

21. If by "rock and roll" you mean the blend

of R&B and hillbilly music originally popularized in the 50s, it "died" when the British Invasion landed in 1964.

If you're talking less specifically about the whole attitude underpinning that music, it's never died. Rock & roll is an attitude, and not a particular genre.

And who are the "many" who say Huey Lewis and the News were the last great rock band?!

[Gormy Cuss]

22. February 3, 1959.

After that it was just rock or rock with other modifiers.

[kskiska]

34. Agreed. That's when it died for me.

Buddy, Richie,and the Big Bopper. Actually, though, of the three, I'd say that only Buddy Holly's career held any promise of longevity. He wrote his own music and was very innovative.

[pitohui]

23. 1964 is the yr music dies

or so say john varley and i suspect he know more abt music than i do

indeed in the early 70s there was much acknowlegement that rock had long since died (remember american pie? or if you're younger than that, hotel california?) but then they decided to call any song that sold "rock" and that is the only reason you think huey lewis was rock

cripes man how old (how young?) are you?

huey lewis as rock that is truly sad that you even posted that in public to embarrass yourself

huey lewis wasn't rock, never was, never will be

rock was 1957-1964

if you are going to call any bit of pop "rock" then fuckin cole porter was rock!

[AKPacker]

27. I have to disagree

There was a lot of good music in the 60's and early 70's!

[pitohui]

30. good music is NOT rock

dude, my favorite band is talking heads late 70s early 80s

they are not rock

THEY ARE POP

another clue, did you know a lot of people think mozart is a fantastic musician

i will give you a clue, he was not a rock star, he lived a few centuries back, like more than 2 centuries back!

to label things correctly is not the same as saying they are bad

most music is not rock and never will be rock

there is plenty of non-rock music that is "good"

if for you "rock" is just another phrase for "good" then you need a new dictionary

[AKPacker]

32. You really missed the point!

I am curious of what your definition of "Rock" is.

Rock and Roll as it was defined, by you, was nothing more than the POPular music at the time. It was a rebellious music that the POPulous excepted and loved.

[WhollyHeretic]

35. The only one who embarrassed themselves here is you with this rabid

response to a thread in the lounge about music. Ease up.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

55. 1964?

Wouldn't you consider Jimi Hendrix rock? Or for that matter, AC/DC? They both came out after 1964.

[Initech]

24. The day the media was officially deregulated

That's when Clear Channel and Ticketbastard became the powerhouses they are today. They started buying up every radio station and concert venue in the country, then hawking the shit that somehow manages to pass for rock music to the idiotic masses of this country.

[leftofthedial]

31. at the exact moment the Chevy reached the levee

[asthmaticeog]

33. The day I got my first guitar, suckas!

Yep, I did it. Ha ha.

[Redstone]

36. When the bands started naming their tours.

That one obscenely pretentious act signaled the end.

Redstone

[zone]

41. WTF?

Neil Young is on the cover of Rolling Stone. Rock and Roll will never die.

[zone]

42. WTF?

Neil Young is on the cover of Rolling Stone. Rock and Roll will never die.

[jobycom]

43. I think Guns 'n Roses was the last great rock band, and Grunge was

it's last gasp.

Not saying that GNR was the greatest rock band, just that they were the last of the rock bands with the unabashed larger-than-life rock sound. After them, it was all deconstruction. I think Grunge was the last new twist in rock, and after that it was done.

There were, and are, still good rock bands, but they are either old bands hanging on, or new bands with a derivative sound, and there is nothing strong enough to start another wave.

I think Rap took the best part of rock and headed it in a new direction, leaving the tired elements of rock behind. They kept the heavy rhythms and the raw passions, but jettisoned the chord-and-lyric construction. That part had gone about as far as it could go.

These are the opinions of an unlearned man, not of someone who knows anything about what he's talking about. :)

[bridgit]

44. something about a "chevy" and a "levee"...

:shrug: but zz top is a fine substitute

Girl In A T Shirt

Some girls gotta get coco chanel
Some get the luck of the draw
I got a girl lookin' naturally well
Hippest chick you ever saw
She like wearin' powder and paint
Wheelin' in a big Seville
She's big cheese with the maitre D's
Down at the bar and grill
Just a girl in a t-shirt
Girl in a t-shirt
Her reputation precedes her
In every boutique around
They get down on their knees to please her
She's throwin' that money down
Now don't get it wrong, please understand
She's barely keepin' up with the rent
But the finer labels and her car phone
Kepp her down to her very last cent
Just a girl in a t-shirt
Girl in a t-shirt
Everybody digs her, everybody try
Once you get past that femme fatale
Everybody knows she's fine
I had to get it and quit it and keep a cool head
It took me a pass or two
But her code's done cracked I want you to know
She's my baby through and through
Just a girl in a t-shirt
Girl in a t-shirt

[DancingBear]

45. Rock and roll is an historical term

It defines one type of music in a particular era, that era being 1955-59 (give or take a year). Berry, Perkins, Little Richard - you get the drift.

Rock music is an amorphous term for anything other (and later) than that.

"Well you can do anything but" don't confuse the two. :)

[pitohui]

48. thanks dancing bear

you are correct

i'm glad i wasn't just hallucinatin this information!

you and i are some of the v. few who really remember rock n roll based on this thread!

[DancingBear]

49. No, you got it right

Now if we can only get a few folks to google "Alan Freed" then we'd be getting somewhere! :) :)

"I got a gal named Sue, she knows just what to do..."

[johnnie]

51. Yup

Rock and Roll lasted maybe five years. Like I said above, Elvis getting drafted, Jerry Lee and his cousin, Little Richard becoming a preacher, Chuck Berry getting busted, Buddy Holly's plane crash and a few other things like that happened in a short period of time and Rock and Roll was dead.

It has come back in different forms, but in my opinion "Rock and Roll" was basically the era you stated.

[Hardrada]

85. And when Eddie Cochran got killed in that car accident

Ain't no cure for the Summertime Blues..

[CanuckAmok]

50. 1954.

And Huey Lewis and Mark Knopfler can each suck a fuck.

[zone]

54. Folk off!

When Bob went electric.

[Ohio Joe]

57. Yet more proof of evolution

At least thats how I always viewed it. It does not die, it just keeps evolving.

[kwassa]

60. Not dead, just recycling, over and over and over and over and

Rock has been going around in circles for 30 years

Not many new ideas left in this genre, so I listen mostly to many other styles of music.

I do like to blast the occasional Stones or Stevie Ray Vaughan. Blues or roots rock for me.

[kwassa]

61. self-delete

[long_green]

62. The day they gave it a Hall of Fame

complete with a gift store.

[Dukkha]

63. December 8, 1980

the day John Lennon died. Shortly after Reagan was inaugurated and the 80's were ushered in. Rock & Roll began it's downward spiral into mediocrity.

[donheld]

64. It's Still Rock and Roll To Me

What's the matter with the clothes I'm wearing?
"Can't you tell that your tie's too wide?"
Maybe I should buy some old tab collars?
"Welcome back to the age of jive.
Where have you been hidin' out lately, honey?
You can't dress trashy till you spend a lot of money."
Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me

What's the matter with the car I'm driving?
"Can't you tell that it's out of style?"
Should I get a set of white wall tires?
"Are you gonna cruise the miracle mile?
Nowadays you can't be too sentimental
Your best bet's a true baby blue Continental."
Hot funk, cool punk, even if it's old junk
It's still rock and roll to me

Oh, it doesn't matter what they say in the papers
'Cause it's always been the same old scene.
There's a new band in town
But you can't get the sound from a story in a magazine...
Aimed at your average teen

How about a pair of pink sidewinders
And a bright orange pair of pants?
"You could really be a Beau Brummel baby
If you just give it half a chance.
Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers,
You get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers."
Next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock and roll to me

What's the matter with the crowd I'm seeing?
"Don't you know that they're out of touch?"
Should I try to be a straight 'A' student?
"If you are then you think too much.
Don't you know about the new fashion honey?
All you need are looks and a whole lotta money."
It's the next phase, new wave, dance craze, anyways
It's still rock and roll to me

Everybody's talkin' 'bout the new sound
Funny, but it's still rock and roll to me

[evlbstrd]

69. It's still Billy Joel to me.

Never liked that song.

[donheld]

81. I can live with that

:eyes:

[Beer Snob-50]

65. Rock and Roll still lives!!

I Saw this guy named Jackie Greene play Saturday night at a local bar and he was f**king awesome! Great Rock n Roll mixed with the Blues. Awesome.

There is still great Rock being made out there. You just don't hear alot of it on the radio anymore.

[Bridget Burke]

66. Some here have defined "Rock & Roll" as 1950's stuff....

Much of that was actually Rockabilly. But Huey Lewis would be considered Rock--or a real good bar band. "Rock" sure had some stadium excesses but is still being played.

Commercial radio doesn't play much current rock (or rock & roll or rockabilly). But it's there if you know where to look. And there may be local/regional bands that you'd consider "rock & roll." We old fogies don't get out as much as we used to. But--make the effort!

[DancingBear]

67. I'm just defining the era

Most rock historians (are there such things?) place the music labeled "rock and roll" into a specific time period, that being '55-'59 or thereabouts. Of course, the term "rock and roll" now has generic connotations and anything and everything "rock-like" is place under that umbrella, but if one gives credence to the argument that Alan Freed coined the term "rock and roll" (even though the term was used in "race records" years before) then "rock and roll" is indeed a VERY specific genre of a wide musical swath.

As for the rockabilly argument, a good case can be made for that - people like Dorsey Burnette, Wanda Jackson et al were indeed of that style, as was early Carl Perkins.

But "I'm ready ready Teddy to rock and roll..." ??


Nah. :)

[jane_pippin]

71. It isn't dead at all. You just need to know where to look.

And it's not on the TV or on commercial radio, and for the most part it never will be.

There are TONS of good, loud, (or not so loud if that's your thing), bands touring around right now putting out great records that a lot of people don't know about. I hate to use them as a reference since I know they aren't necessarily the best example, but The White Stripes had to play with somebody before they were anybody, and a lot of those bands are really good too. Those little clubs have great bands come through all the time. There's usually a show right here in li'l old Milwaukee every week (or at least every two weeks) that's worth going to to get your socks rocked off. And it's less than $10.00 too most of the time.

If you want to know what's going on, don't read Rolling Stone or Spin--that will make you want to kill "rock" as they know it. Read MOJO from the UK instead. They have a better clue as to what's going on. Or No Depression if you're more into that Alt Country sounding stuff. Even Punk Planet is a decent place to look for new bands once in a while.

It's not dead, but it is buried. And that's the way we likes it. (Or at least I do).

[Bridget Burke]

74. Rolling Stone stopped Rocking in the early 70's....

They still produced some fine journalism--Hunter S Thompson, for example. And they'll report on mainstream artists--Neil Young is on the current cover & he's certainly worthwhile. In the old days, Crawdaddy had a weird, intellectual take of the music. And Creem DID rock!

I agree that going out for live music is the best remedy, if you're in a metropolitan area of reasonable size. Not expensive. We old folks need to make the effort to stay up late occasionally!

Some of the No Depression bands are pretty close to rock & roll.

[jane_pippin]

79. Good point. I guess it's better to say that RS plays it safe.

Which is fine if that's what they're about--someone has to do it. And you're right about the journalism--even now there's a decent article once in a while. However, if it wasn't sitting on the break room table I'd never read the thing.

I always forget that the going to shows thing depends on where you live and/or your willingness/ability to drive to where shows are. Luckily there are enough decent podcasts/internet radio sites out there that even if you don't live somewhere with a lot of shows you could still be exposed to decent music. Apparently our local college radio station has a pretty large internet following--who knew.

Thanks for saying that about No Depression. I wanted to say it, but it's not quite my thing so I didn't feel justified in making the claim. (I don't want to lead people in the wrong direction.)

[XNASA]

72. The day that "Never Mind the Bollocks" was released.

[nutsnberries]

73. Don McLean wrote lyrics for this thread

A long, long time ago...
I can still remember
How that music used to make me smile.
And I knew if I had my chance
That I could make those people dance
And, maybe, they’d be happy for a while.

But february made me shiver
With every paper I’d deliver.
Bad news on the doorstep;
I couldn’t take one more step.

I can’t remember if I cried
When I read about his widowed bride,
But something touched me deep inside
The day the music died.

So bye-bye, miss american pie.
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Did you write the book of love,
And do you have faith in God above,
If the Bible tells you so?
Do you believe in rock ’n roll,
Can music save your mortal soul,
And can you teach me how to dance real slow?

Well, I know that you’re in love with him
`cause I saw you dancin’ in the gym.
You both kicked off your shoes.
Man, I dig those rhythm and blues.

I was a lonely teenage broncin’ buck
With a pink carnation and a pickup truck,
But I knew I was out of luck
The day the music died.

I started singin’,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Now for ten years we’ve been on our own
And moss grows fat on a rollin’ stone,
But that’s not how it used to be.
When the jester sang for the king and queen,
In a coat he borrowed from james dean
And a voice that came from you and me,

Oh, and while the king was looking down,
The jester stole his thorny crown.
The courtroom was adjourned;
No verdict was returned.
And while lennon read a book of marx,
The quartet practiced in the park,
And we sang dirges in the dark
The day the music died.

We were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Helter skelter in a summer swelter.
The birds flew off with a fallout shelter,
Eight miles high and falling fast.
It landed foul on the grass.
The players tried for a forward pass,
With the jester on the sidelines in a cast.

Now the half-time air was sweet perfume
While the sergeants played a marching tune.
We all got up to dance,
Oh, but we never got the chance!
`cause the players tried to take the field;
The marching band refused to yield.
Do you recall what was revealed
The day the music died?

We started singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devil’s only friend.

Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died

He was singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
And singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

I met a girl who sang the blues
And I asked her for some happy news,
But she just smiled and turned away.
I went down to the sacred store
Where I’d heard the music years before,
But the man there said the music wouldn’t play.

And in the streets: the children screamed,
The lovers cried, and the poets dreamed.
But not a word was spoken;
The church bells all were broken.
And the three men I admire most:
The father, son, and the holy ghost,
They caught the last train for the coast
The day the music died.

And they were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
And them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die.
"this’ll be the day that I die."

They were singing,
"bye-bye, miss american pie."
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin’ whiskey and rye
Singin’, "this’ll be the day that I die."

[WritingIsMyReligion]

86. That song is so fucking long...

I love it. :D :D

[realisticphish]

75. Rock never dies

it evolves. How many people thought rock died at the end of the sixties? seventies? eighties? nineties?

Your generation (raised in 70's) considers your music as the ultimate in rock music. Granted, I love 70's rock, but I also think my generation's music has a lot of good rock as well. It's all about perception

[hobo_baggins]

76. You Can't Kill Rock n' Roll...Its here to stay

How many times can they fill me with lies and
I listen again
Twisting the truth and they're playin' around with my
head O.K.
The things they will do and the things they will say
When they don't really understand
Tears fill my eyes when I hear all the cries
For the reason today.

And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about
And I can't image what empty heads can achieve.

Leave me alone don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock 'n' roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change, may think it's strange
You can't kill rock 'n' roll it's here to stay.

Lookin' through eyes of time mirrors reflecting their stories
Untrue
Promises, promises, telling me all of my glories overdue.
How many times have I heard it before
And I'll probably hear it again
King of a thousand knights, pawn in a table light
Losing to you.

And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about
And I can't image what empty heads can achieve.

Leave me alone don't want your promises no more

'Cause rock 'n' roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change, may think it's strange
You can't kill rock 'n' roll it's here to stay.

Even the rhymes that they give me in times of confession
Ain't true
Outcome is obvious all for them none for us meaning
you too.
The things they will do and the things they will say
When they don't really understand.
Fear of rejection I need their protection
I'm making a stand.

And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about
And I can't image what empty heads can achieve.

Leave me alone don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock 'n' roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change, may think it's strange
You can't kill rock 'n' roll it's here to stay.

Leave me alone don't want your promises no more
'Cause rock 'n' roll is my religion and my law
Won't ever change, may think it's strange
I'm born to rock 'n' roll I'm here to say.

[RandomKoolzip]

77. Are you kidding?

People are still playing rock music using the small band format (guitar, bass, drums). All over the place. In small clubs, localized scenes. It's still a healthy, vibrant form.

As an aesthetic experience, Rock is not "dead." As a sociological thingamadooey, yes, it's pretty much dead, and thank fuckin' GOD for that. Anyone asking for Rock to "change the world" is a fucking loser. And anyone who claims that Rock is not music but an "attitude" is also a loser. It's just music (the greatest the world ever knew, but still just music). If anyone expected Rock music to do anything but entertain, they deserve a punch in the head.

[DancingBear]

80. Nobody asked if "rock" was dead

They asked if/when "rock and roll" was dead.

Rock music IS NOT rock and roll, if we are defining rock and roll in the pure sense of it being an ACTUAL musical form and period, like doo-wop, for example. And, despite protestations to the contrary, it is/was.

If that is what we are doing, then rock and roll as defined above "lived" from 1955-1959, or thereabouts.

Little Richard was rock and roll. Jerry Lee Lewis was rock and roll. Chuck Berry was rock and roll. Led Zeppelin, U2, White Stripes or ANYONE else like them IS NOT rock and roll. Rock - yes. Rock and roll - not a prayer.

Rock music is still with us, of course, but "rock and roll" is long gone.

Whew, I feel better now. :)

[LynneSin]

78. September 25th, 1980

:cry:

[SpeedwayDemocrat]

82. The first Bad Company album...

at least that's when it died, according to the Kids in the Hall. "Learn to nurse that beer, and soon you'll be listening to JAZZ..."
NOT!

[mvd]

83. Never

Yes, much of the non-hip/hop stuff on the radio is more pop or pop/punk than rock - not that there's anything inherently wrong with that. But there's still rock out there, as well as rockabilly. Remember, rock evolved from early R&B, so from Elvis to now, rockabilly is a part of rock.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

84. No question

The day the music died. Buddy Holly, The Big Bopper, Richie Valens. RIP