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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 08:51 PM
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wah wah wah whiney "porn" addicts on CNN now
I don't even like porn--I think it's violent and objectifying to those involved--and yet these holy rollers are whinning about how porn is leading to their sinful downfall.

*click*. Time to play Final Fantasy Tactics.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 09:39 PM
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1. I'm going to play Age of Empires
*NERDS OF THE WORLD UNITE*
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:45 PM
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9. AoE, Yes. I'm thinking about playing a couple of games myself.
I have heard the 3rd one is buggy as hell. I sat there and read the forums and some 73 reviews of it the other day. After downloading the killer graphics and then reading those reviews, I'll stick to AoE 1 and 2 for now.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:34 AM
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23. Conquerors Edition?
or the new one (AOE III)?

:D
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:46 PM
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26. No, the original Ages of Empire game
AoE II has the Conquerors edition to it.
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richmwill Donating Member (972 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 09:42 PM
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2. Eh, Swaggart tried that angle years ago (n/t)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:01 PM
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3. If you want proof there is no god, look to the people who follow him
This "god" is supposed to make you a better person, right? God is supposed to make you not want to do bad. God is supposed to make you not want to drink, smoke dope, gamble, watch porn or anything else that displeases him.

So how come the biggest customers for booze, weed, casinos, porn and bail bonds are ALL fundies?
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:53 PM
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29. They're like children
Tell them they cannot do something and that is the first thing they do. The forbidden is very attractive.
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-02-06 12:21 PM
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38. Adult entertainment know no party lines
as well a booze -- but go ahead and ascribe certain behaviors to one side, if it helps your agenda.

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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:03 PM
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4. Ah, porn. The one issue fundies and feminists can all agree on.
:D
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:08 PM
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7. Well the fundies just yearn for the porn stars though
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:05 PM
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5. I don't know if there is a correlation but....
violent sexual crimes have been in a steady decline since the late 1990's....

Coincidentally, the explosion of readily available porn on the internet arose at about the same time...

Now it could be that demographics has more to do with the drop in reported sexual violence....

Or it could also be due to a change in the social climate, a more conservative male oriented justice system that has sfrightened victums into not reporting the crime...

Or it could just be chance...

But it is something to consider...
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:07 PM
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6. I got over porn when I was a teenager.
It's great until you get the real thing. After that it seems pointless and ridiculous. Why watch when you can do?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 09:13 PM
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33. No kidding!
Edited on Sat Dec-31-05 09:13 PM by Maestro
PrOn just doesn't do it for me any more. It really never did because when I was a teenager it just reminded me of what I wasn't doing. Anyhow, if you've seen one couple do the nasty, you have seen them all. Some of the stuff though is just plain wierd! And I am no prude! BTW, Slayer rulezzzzzzzzzzzzz! God, I hate this crap they pass for metal nowadays.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:43 PM
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8. I do like porn and I'm sick of hearing holy rollers talk about it
as if they ever really take the blame themselves for things they do themselves. Phtooey. Fuck them and the horse they rode in on.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:06 PM
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30. I don't have anything against porn, but
sadly the internet has given me a whole new perspective on the last sentence in your post...if you know what I mean. :scared:
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 09:20 PM
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34. It's not just "holy rollers" who hate porn.
There are plenty of people on the left (and even here at DU) who hate it and think you're a macho, chauvinist, woman-hating pig if you like it.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 09:22 PM
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36. Make your own porn w/ someone you love
and keep the money out of it. Only then can there be no exploitation involved.
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-01-06 07:57 AM
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37. I really don't care about porn one way or the other...
so long as only adults are involved in the making and viewing. I do get sick of the attitude that anyone who enjoys porn is being "exploitive", though.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:52 PM
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10. Personally, I like Lesbian Erotica made by Lesbians
(stuff made by men, girl on girl is dumb IMHO). Also like Bettie Page and
Marilyn Monroe pictures. But I do not like most of the stuff that passes
for pornography nowadays. They are usually not real women but touched up by
plastic and computers. Nowadays Page and Monroe would be considered too "fat"
for porn and that sucks...
:(

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:06 AM
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14. rAmen
I'm glad there is somebody else who recognizes the difference. That Barbie on Barbie stuff made by men is not lesbian porn, it is girl-on-girl action made for men. Lesbian erotica is a whole different category.
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:09 AM
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15. Yes, sure is.
I like the paperback anothologies of Lesbian Erotica.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:35 AM
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18. I just bought one when I was in Provinctown this October
I haven't had a chance to read much of it yet. :-(
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:48 AM
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20. Oh well. Just browsed a little through
"Gone is the Shame" an anthology of fifty years of lesbian erotica.

There was also a Lesbian Romance called "That Provincetown Summer"
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:53 PM
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11. No, their problem is that they're whiny fucks with no self control
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-30-05 11:54 PM
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12. Prefer erotica.
And they can always choose to not look at it!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:03 AM
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13. It's not the porn stupid!
It's your vile, hateful paradigm that is leading to your sinful downfall. You can't preach and teach hate, and harbor nothing but hate in your hearts without it seeping out into the rest of your lives. Learn love, acceptance and tolerance and you might know a life of joy and decency. (Message to the Fundies, not to the OP.)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:13 AM
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16. AMEN! Yes, I am so TIRED of it!
Uh, Fundies, can we actually acknowledge the elephants in the room
(famine, war, poverty what Jesus DID PREACH AGAINST) and stop wailing about porn and homosexuality, which
Jesus says NOTHING ABOUT. GRRRRRRR!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:33 AM
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17. That would take actual sacrifice on their part
Taking action against famine and poverty would mean giving up their precious money, which they feel they deserve more than those lazy bums and third-world, non-Christian, leeches.

Taking action against war would mean giving up their hatred, which they feed constantly, and feel is justified. Stop hating the Iraquis? Hell no--they are Muslims, followers of that horrid religion of Islam. Stop hating the Isralis? Hell no--they are Jews, the people who killed Jesus. Better to wipe them all off the planet, unless they decide to convert to our religion. :eyes:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:46 AM
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19. Yes, so obviously they will do everything to
avoid anything challenging...

War on Christmas? PuhhhhhhhhLEEEEEZ! :(

Also reminds me of Dubya joking that he wanted to
go to Israel and tell everyone there that they "weren't saved."
How does he or anyone know THAT or have any right?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:27 AM
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21. They only take up those causes
That won't affect their wallets, and won't take any real effort. If you notice, all of their causes basically involve inciting rage and maybe some picketing. They never involve creating positive social change, putting themselves out to help others, giving up money in the name of helping those in need, etc.

And Dubya, he knew the people in Israel weren't "saved" because they weren't Christians. Duh! :sarcasm:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:29 AM
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22. Putting the DUH back in Dubya.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:44 AM
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24. Dubya puts the DUH in everything he touches
;-)
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:45 AM
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25. King Midas in reverse
;)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:48 PM
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27. If God made us according to his intelligent design, and we're built
with hormones designed to promote procreation and the further spread of our species in celebration of his gift, then why not celebrate our bodies?

Instead, the fundies would have us fight wars.

Silly, really.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 09:20 PM
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35. It is possible, don't you think
to celebrate the human form w/o exploiting it.... don't you think?
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 12:51 PM
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28. the reason I hate porn:
the shoes. If you're going to have sex on camera, why not do it in a pair of Jimmy Choo's? :D
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 01:11 PM
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31. What the hell IS up
with the shoe thing in porn anyway? :shrug:

Okay, maybe I just need to do more research, but it seems to be part of the union contract or something, "all 'actresses' must be shod at all times" or something like that?!
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aclog Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-31-05 07:38 PM
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32. Wow
I'll have to pay attn to whether anyone is wearing shoes next time!
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