hang on.... Mariah Carey is Black?!

[CanuckAmok]

I'm not being a smart-ass for once. I seriously thought she was caucasian, or maybe Hispanic.

But she's, like, full-on Black? Ed McMahon> I did not know that. </Ed McMahon

[MrScorpio]

1. Black dad, white mom

In America, that make her all black

[DeposeTheBoyKing]

2. I think she's biracial

Half black, half white.

[lillilbigone]

3. Métisse

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

4. Her mother is Irish American/ Father black-Venezuelan

His mother was black and his father Venezuelan. Her mother was also an opera singer

[Rabrrrrrr]

5. No, she's of the race called "Factory-Made Poser Clowns"

[radwriter0555]

6. mmm no, she's not factory made, she's all organic... she is a real diva

that's for sure, and damn, can she SING.

I don't LIKE her, but she CAN. SING.

[ldf]

9. it is sad how the term "diva"

has devolved to the point of being used to describe the likes of ms. carey.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

10. Really!

The term "diva" has been debased to where it means any female pop singer with an amplified voice and glitzy clothes.

Mariah Carey is not a diva. Celine Dion is not a diva. Britney Spears couldn't even come close to being a diva.

The term means "goddess," and it has traditionally been used to refer to classically trained singers with distinctive voices (voices that can fill a hall without amplification) and commanding stage presences, with a little emotional instability thrown in.

Maria Callas was THE diva. Kathleen Battle is a diva. Angelina Gheorghiu is a diva. Joan Sutherland is a retired diva.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

32. Yeah, the "pop diva du jour" thing just won't do...

[mitchum]

30. I believe that the modern re-definition of "diva" began with Diana Ross...

I enjoy the Supremes, but Ross does not have killer vocal chops. I believe that an imperious and high maintennace manner like that exhibited by Ross (and all those who came after her) led to the modern usage of "diva"

[tishaLA]

35. The NY Times dates it to Ms. Streisand

Stephen Holden says that Streisand first made "diva" a term that didn't apply to opera stars, back in the mid 60s, when Barbra was great and her voice had chutzpah. I think she actually is a diva and has been for 40 years now.

And I'd include Ms. Franklin in that category too.

[xchrom]

38. ok -- that is sooo wrong.

gay men have using ''diva'' forever!

we've used to DESCRIBE ms streisand -- but she didn't make that term come out of it's opera closet -- we did.

[Rabrrrrrr]

37. I find myself in full agreement with you, ldf

"Diva" used to mean something; now the pop world has decided that any female pop singer whose pitch can be adjusted in the editing board and can sing loudly while "dancing" is a diva.

Pop stars are not divas. Especially not the shitty ones, like Mariah, Celine, Whitney, Brittney, and etc.

[ForrestGump]

17. I was a foot away from her, backstage at the American Music Awards, years

ago. She was gorgeous, I must say -- breath-taking. But everyone patently hated her, and she was actually standing all alone.

Earlier, in the actual show, she got booed -- I think it was something to do with Tommy Mottolla or the perception that she didn't earn her way in. Dunno. I admired her voice, though I thought she was too busy showing it off that she forgot to actually feel the song, but when I saw her backstage I couldn't help feeling a little bit sorry for her, no matter what she might be like. I said hello and she said it back and smiled, and that was it. At least she smiled, though...she seemed sad. She may not be a nice person, for all I know, but she was nice to me for the few-second intersection of our paths.

[YellowRubberDuckie]

20. Not as well as she used to. I miss the ballads that made me cry...

Why doesn't anyone do ballads anymore?
Duckie

[AntiCoup2K4]

27. Who only got a record contract by marrying Tommy Mottola

And if the CEO of CBS/Columbia/Epic/Sony records says give my wife a contract, who's gonna deny it?

Not saying she can't sing. Only that she got help that a lot of singers just as good or better never got.

[radwriter0555]

34. No, she got a recording contract because she has one of the greatest

voices of all time.

She has truly one of the most perfect voices ever packaged in a human. Her personality aside, you cannot compare the quality and ability of her voice with anyone else on the planet. It just doesn't exist... she's like a stradovarious violin, unique, priceless and without compare.

I can't stand her personally, have worked with her, but her instrument is as close to perfection as it could ever possibly be.

[mitchum]

29. In the studio, she is known as "Queen of the Punch-in"

seems she has a wee bit of a control problem

[Left Is Write]

7. All I know is...

I saw on VH1's Least Metal Moments yesterday that she did a version of Def Leppard's "Bringing On The Heartbreak."

That is just wrong on so many levels.

[Texasgal]

8. No kidding!

Why...OH WHY? did she have to go and mess up a perfectly GOOD metal song??? :P

[Starbucks Anarchist]

11. Did you see Celine Dion's version

of AC/DC's "You Shook Me All Night Long"?

:puke:

[tuvor]

12. Is it as awful as Dolly Parton's bluegrass version of...

Stairway to Heaven?

Eesh, that was misguided, to say the least.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

13. Didn't hear Dolly's song, but Celine's was godawful.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

19. that was horrible.

air guitar even.

[Giant Robot]

15. I am still in therapy after seeing that

*holds himself shaking* make it stop...make it stop...

[Left Is Write]

25. Yes. That should have been the #1 Least Metal Moment.

That was so horrifying, I just sat slack-jawed, staring at the television in disbelief.

[SlavesandBulldozers]

18. thanks a lot. now i'll never rest until i have this song in mp3.

damn you!

[Left Is Write]

26. You mean...do you really mean...

you want to hear it?

[pitohui]

14. sez she

if she sez she is, then she is, i believe in letting people name themselves, tho i suppose if you wanted to get technical she's biracial

i've seen her reviewed in black publications before

[graywarrior]

16. Shakira is Columbian and she is so much better than Mariah

Don't they call the wind Mariah?

[REP]

39. Shakira Has a Gorgeous Voice

If she switched to bel canto, she could own the opera world. She's got a good range, a beautiful tone, power without force plus she's easy on the eyes (and I'm a hetero chick!). I don't know much about her as a person, but she seems so nice on top of everything else!

[graywarrior]

40. She's politically aware and I saw that against advice she

performed in Argentina during unrest because she wanted to do something for her fans. She had a huge turnout. Her father is Lebanese, so she has an interesting mix. She speaks five languages.

[Nikia]

21. She has a video about her parents too

Or at least one based on it. I cannot remember the title of the song and don't feel motivated enough to look it up.
Yes, she is biracial and is considered black.

[CatWoman]

22. that's ok -- I just found out the same is true for The Rock as well

[ForrestGump]

23. He's half Samoan, right?

:hi:

[CatWoman]

24. I think so

:hi: Forrest!!!

Samoans tend to be huge, er hugh!!! :D

[anti_shrub]

31. Indeed

Rock's dad was black wrestler Rocky "Soul Train" Johnson and his maternal grandfather was Samoan wrestler Peter Maivia.

[sakabatou]

28. See Jazmine DuBois

[Taverner]

33. Her shitty singing and psycho antics aside

She's a united nations, and as a result incredibly hot (looking)

[CanuckAmok]

36. yes, she's hot!

no argument there.

[CatWoman]

43. The only problem I have with Mariah

is that she wears her clothes too tight.

[bmbmd]

41. Her singing

just tied her with Elvis for most number one hits.

[shanti]

42. she's biracial

as such, she can claim black if she feels like it. also, it pretty much MAKES her black in the us of a.