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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:14 AM
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"Everybody's an Expert" - loungeworthy crosspost from "Editorials"
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 12:17 AM by swag
Excuse me, but I love this article and will have to get the book.

“Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?” by Philip Tetlock (Princeton; $35), reviewed for the New Yorker by Louis Menand:

http://www.newyorker.com/critics/content/articles/051205crbo_books1


short excerpt:
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It is the somewhat gratifying lesson of Philip Tetlock’s new book, “Expert Political Judgment: How Good Is It? How Can We Know?” (Princeton; $35), that people who make prediction their business—people who appear as experts on television, get quoted in newspaper articles, advise governments and businesses, and participate in punditry roundtables—are no better than the rest of us. When they’re wrong, they’re rarely held accountable, and they rarely admit it, either. They insist that they were just off on timing, or blindsided by an improbable event, or almost right, or wrong for the right reasons. They have the same repertoire of self-justifications that everyone has, and are no more inclined than anyone else to revise their beliefs about the way the world works, or ought to work, just because they made a mistake. No one is paying you for your gratuitous opinions about other people, but the experts are being paid, and Tetlock claims that the better known and more frequently quoted they are, the less reliable their guesses about the future are likely to be. The accuracy of an expert’s predictions actually has an inverse relationship to his or her self-confidence, renown, and, beyond a certain point, depth of knowledge. People who follow current events by reading the papers and newsmagazines regularly can guess what is likely to happen about as accurately as the specialists whom the papers quote. Our system of expertise is completely inside out: it rewards bad judgments over good ones.

“Expert Political Judgment” is not a work of media criticism. Tetlock is a psychologist—he teaches at Berkeley—and his conclusions are based on a long-term study that he began twenty years ago. He picked two hundred and eighty-four people who made their living “commenting or offering advice on political and economic trends,” and he started asking them to assess the probability that various things would or would not come to pass, both in the areas of the world in which they specialized and in areas about which they were not expert. Would there be a nonviolent end to apartheid in South Africa? Would Gorbachev be ousted in a coup? Would the United States go to war in the Persian Gulf? Would Canada disintegrate? (Many experts believed that it would, on the ground that Quebec would succeed in seceding.) And so on. By the end of the study, in 2003, the experts had made 82,361 forecasts. Tetlock also asked questions designed to determine how they reached their judgments, how they reacted when their predictions proved to be wrong, how they evaluated new information that did not support their views, and how they assessed the probability that rival theories and predictions were accurate.

Tetlock got a statistical handle on his task by putting most of the forecasting questions into a “three possible futures” form. The respondents were asked to rate the probability of three alternative outcomes: the persistence of the status quo, more of something (political freedom, economic growth), or less of something (repression, recession). And he measured his experts on two dimensions: how good they were at guessing probabilities (did all the things they said had an x per cent chance of happening happen x per cent of the time?), and how accurate they were at predicting specific outcomes. The results were unimpressive. On the first scale, the experts performed worse than they would have if they had simply assigned an equal probability to all three outcomes—if they had given each possible future a thirty-three-per-cent chance of occurring. Human beings who spend their lives studying the state of the world, in other words, are poorer forecasters than dart-throwing monkeys, who would have distributed their picks evenly over the three choices.

Tetlock also found that specialists are not significantly more reliable than non-specialists in guessing what is going to happen in the region they study. Knowing a little might make someone a more reliable forecaster, but Tetlock found that knowing a lot can actually make a person less reliable. “We reach the point of diminishing marginal predictive returns for knowledge disconcertingly quickly,” he reports. “In this age of academic hyperspecialization, there is no reason for supposing that contributors to top journals—distinguished political scientists, area study specialists, economists, and so on—are any better than journalists or attentive readers of the New York Times in ‘reading’ emerging situations.” And the more famous the forecaster the more overblown the forecasts. “Experts in demand,” Tetlock says, “were more overconfident than their colleagues who eked out existences far from the limelight.”

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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:17 AM
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1. It's actually scary!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 12:31 AM
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2. I find it very comforting.
The random walk is my kind of walk.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:54 AM
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3. A kick before dying.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:54 AM
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4. Dupeberry Dupestein.
Edited on Thu Dec-08-05 08:55 AM by swag
Berry Berry, Stein Stein Stein.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 09:36 AM
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5. A most kickworthy post,
as it confirms what I've been saying all along. :evilgrin:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:53 PM
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6. From now on, I'm only listening to you.
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:55 PM
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7. It shall be your un-doing...
:scared:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 07:58 PM
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8. I've been waiting for a good undoing.
I am sure he is the man for it.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:12 PM
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9. i new it, ha! but then, that's alway's my undoing.
being a smartass.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:14 PM
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10. From now on, I'm only listening to you.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-08-05 08:20 PM
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11. oh gosh, don't encourage me to spout off. just one glass of Power's
and I have the answer to everything. i'd have to bring along my thesaurus if you were about, but it wouldn't slow me much.
:hi:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-09-05 08:31 AM
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12. The "experts" might tell you that this thread is dead, but they're idiots.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:27 AM
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13. This thread is a god-monster with intelligence.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:34 AM
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14. "dart-throwing monkeys"
Well, that's pretty much every pundit on the tube.

From now on, you should only listen to me. I'm good at darts.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:38 AM
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15. From now on, I'm only listening to you.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 02:42 AM
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16. Actually, I lied
I suck at darts. I'm doing good to hit the board. But that's why you should listen to me. Because now I'm telling you how it really is. Everyone else is still full of shit.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-10-05 12:45 PM
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17. I bow to your expertise.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:19 AM
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18. Those experts are still down on this thread!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:22 AM
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19. Great minds....
I saw that and wanted to look into it further as well....
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-11-05 12:37 AM
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20. from the author's prologue:
Edited on Sun Dec-11-05 12:37 AM by swag
We are left, then, with a murkier tale. The dominant danger remains hubris, the mostly hedgehog vice of closed-mindedness, of dismissing dissonant possibilities too quickly. But there is also the danger of cognitive chaos, the mostly fox vice of excessive open-mindedness, of seeing too much merit in too many stories. Good judgment now becomes a metacognitive skill--akin to "the art of self-overhearing." Good judges need to eavesdrop on the mental conversations they have with themselves as they decide how to decide, and determine whether they approve of the trade-offs they are striking in the classic exploitation-exploration balancing act, that between exploiting existing knowledge and exploring new possibilities.

Chapter 8 reflects on the broader implications of this project. From a philosophy of science perspective, there is value in assessing how far an exercise of this sort can be taken. We failed to purge all subjectivity from judgments of good judgment, but we advanced the cause of "objectification" by developing valid correspondence and coherence measures of good judgment, by discovering links between how observers think and how they fare on these measures, and by determining the robustness of these links across scoring adjustments. From a policy perspective, there is value in using publicly verifiable correspondence and coherence benchmarks to gauge the quality of public debates. The more people know about pundits' track records, the stronger the pundits' incentives to compete by improving the epistemic (truth) value of their products, not just by pandering to communities of co-believers.


http://www.pupress.princeton.edu/chapters/s7959.html
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-12-05 09:05 AM
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21. The Ministry of Random Walks paid me to kick this thread.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:04 AM
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22. I have gained a certain expertise in kicking this thread.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:18 PM
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23. Clearly. From now on, I'm only listening to you.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 12:32 PM
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24. No, I'm listening to you!
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 01:37 PM
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25. In Soviet Russia, I listen to YOU!
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:22 PM
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28. "Of course, perestroika will win!"
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:04 PM
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30. I said, "Of course perestroika will win."
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:06 PM
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35. "Of course, perestroika will win!"
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 03:34 PM
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26. I learned this about 25 years ago on PBS
this lesson:
"People who follow current events by reading the papers and newsmagazines regularly can guess what is likely to happen about as accurately as the specialists whom the papers quote."

Example:
The final night of Washington Week in Review before the election of Carter vs. Reagan. They went around the table at the end of the show, asking each expert Washington correspondent for a major news organization who was going to win the election.

Each said Jimmy Carter would win. Reagan won quite easily, of course. I stopped watching that show, and have not followed many opinion columnists since, because I do realize they are no more expert than I. They just get paid to opine, which is a good gig, if you can get it.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-13-05 11:19 PM
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27. Are you saying something along the lines of
Don't Follow Leaders, Watch the Parking Meters?

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 01:07 AM
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29. The "experts" might tell you that this thread is dead, but they're idiots.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:15 PM
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31. Some people say that the thread has sunk to the bottom, but I predict
that it will be kicked to the top. :evilgrin:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-14-05 05:18 PM
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32. What the heck do you know? Are you an expert?
You sure sound like one.

You and your predictions.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 10:25 AM
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33. The experts are really shining this morning:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-15-05 11:58 PM
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34. Overconfidence - the scourge of investing, and of existing.
Latest example:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/15/business/15scene.html

excerpt:

In the December 2005 issue of The Journal of Finance, Ulrike M. Malmendier of Stanford Business School and Geoffrey Tate of the Wharton School offer a new and provocative explanation of the excess sensitivity of company investments to cash on hand. They argue that this behavior is partly explained by the personality characteristics of the chief executive. The title says it all: "C.E.O. Overconfidence and Corporate Investment."

Their explanation begins with the Lake Wobegon effect: we all tend to think that we are above average. This belief in our own superiority leads us to attribute our successes to our acumen and our failures to bad luck.

Successful business executives are particularly susceptible to this affliction.

An overconfident chief executive may well believe that he can value investments better than financial markets and thus decide that retaining and investing earnings is better for the shareholders than letting them invest the money themselves.

Alternatively, whenever he does not have cash at hand, he may forgo a promising investment project. Being overconfident, he feels that his company and his investment plans are undervalued by investors and bankers and, hence, finds that raising the equity or the debt to finance the project is too expensive.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-16-05 10:32 PM
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36. Thanks. A very thoughtful and illuminating article.
I always thought the experts were full of shit. ;-)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-18-05 06:50 PM
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37. I am glad to have been of service.
Crescat scientia, vita escolatur.
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