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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:38 PM
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Harry Potter: A couple of miss hits, but otherwise FABULOUS!
The miss hits: Very disappointed that they skimmed right over the World Cup Quidditch game in the beginning, but I guess when you have an 800 page book to film, something has to go.

But the major disappointment is that Harry Potter has remained true to its Scottish/British roots EXCEPT in one place. At the World Cup Quidditch match, they added something that wasn't in the book,nor is it legitimate. A big banner that read, "Top o the Morning." I've had many pure Irish tell me that this is Hollywood Irish, and not a real custom in Ireland. So, it was a disappointment to see it show up on the silver screen.

Great moments otherwise. Especially when Dumbledorf says, "the time will come when you'll have to make a decision between what is right and what is easy."

Highly recommend it.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:41 PM
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1. I'm hoping they filmed just a little bit extra
for the DVD.

I think 15 more minutes could have rectified a large number of the omissions, like actually giving Fleur some dialogue.

I thought the most grievious omission was the parting of the ways. How else are they going to set up 5?
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:45 PM
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2. I will definitely buy this DVD just for the director's cut.
I haven't read 5 yet so I'm not sure what you're referring to.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:55 PM
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4. At the end of 4
Snape and Hagrid are both sent off on unnamed "missions," and Dumbledore and Fudge get into a nasty fight about whether Voldemort has actually returned, and they're on the outs throughout 5.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 10:50 PM
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3. The parting
Edited on Fri Nov-25-05 10:51 PM by MountainLaurel
Was my husband's main complaint, and he's never read the books. But you're right, between Snape showing Cornelius Fudge the dark mark on his arm, everyone finding out that Sirius is innocent, Fudge's comments about Harry being crazy about seeing Voldemort and naming the Death Eaters present, the doling out of duties and the call up of the "old crowd", the transition to OOP will be MUCH more difficult.

As for the DVD, there are definitely scenes that weren't in the film -- Mugglenet includes some shots from a calendar that show such scenes.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:34 AM
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10. That's the ONLY thing I didn't like that they omitted
Fudge not believing HP and Dumbledore, and Snape, etc. being sent out to find stuff out. I MISSED other things, but this was the only thing I think was a mistake to leave out.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-25-05 11:12 PM
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5. Dobby was missing.
I was hoping to see Dobby.

Mad Eye's eye freaked me out.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:22 AM
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8. Yeah! Dobby WAS missing.
I guess the social inequity issues that the house elves provide is going to be played-out through Hermoine and the mudblood vs pureblood thing. Which is entirely british.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:15 AM
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6. Don't flame me, but I didn't like the books...
however, I LOVED this movie! Although I know jack*hit about the books, but as far as I'm concerned, this is the best Potter movie so far. I am shielded from the lack of character development by my ignorance, and I enjoyed the special effects and the action, as they had a LOT to fit into 1 movie!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:27 AM
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9.  That's the sign of a good story.
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 10:01 AM by The Backlash Cometh
Plays out well in book and cinema. I'm on page 180 of the Goblet book. After I saw the movie last night, I ran home to continue reading the book. It's fascinating to see where they veered from the original story and what they added. It's all good. Well, except for that "Top o the morning" banner which watered down the authenticity. Maybe as an American, I'm most pleased about the casting because they all have real accents! So I want to keep it pure.

I had to force myself to get through the first book because it was a bit slow, but once I was half way there, I couldn't stop.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:23 AM
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7. hmmm
just saw it today with my kid. The adolescent "love" parts bored him no end. That was funny. For me, it was fun to see how much the actors had "grown up" and catch their surliness.

I liked the 3rd movie better, but this one had lots of action. They did pretty well with condensing the huge 4th book - they seemed to hit most of the highlights. But they did add some things not in the book that I thought were over the top...like the deatheaters behavior at the World Cup, I didn't think that was necessary.

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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:35 AM
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11. The deatheaters were more atrocious in the book than they were
in the movie! In the book they were pulling four terrified floating muggles on ropes! Malfoy stops Hermoine, Weasely and Harry in the woods and taunts them, suggesting they should hide Hermoine from the deatheaters because deatheaters hate mudbloods.

And that adolescent fuss about asking a date to the prom early on, converted my daughter completely. She just turned 16 and she had the exact same problem that Hermoine had. The guy she wanted to ask her out, didn't, but she ended up liking the guy who did ask her out because he was such a gentleman.

I'm sure the candy scenes were the ones that will keep the very young interested in the movie, but as Hermoine pointed out, everything will change.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:53 PM
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18. oh right
I had forgotten about the muggle part... I think that would have been more scary.... than the flames part....
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:51 AM
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12. Loved the stunning visuals - HATED the idiot "playing" Dumbledore.
Dumbledore is the supreme leader of COOL. Michael gambon the actor is a court jester playing dumbledore and he absolutely is RUINOUS to Dumbledore's rep.

The calling of The Order was missing and no way no how in Order, which starts filming in February, will they spend a half hour trying to catch people up.

The feel of the GOF visuals was beautiful and arresting. The Quidditch match was well done but too short. No Ginny kissing Dean either to set up the jealousy in 6 either. So, again we shall wait.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:10 AM
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13. I HATED the way he pronounced Beauxbatons
He pronounced it beauxBATtens, as in "batten down the hatches". Didn't even attempt a French pronunciation.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:59 AM
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15. In favor of the actor playing Dumbledore
Or shall I say, Dumbledorf? He did seem out of sorts, but it occurs to me that Dumbledore is beginning to lose his senses. He's going mental. So the erratic behavior is almost in character with what's happening to him.

And did you all think it was incredibly odd that the woman (presumably Harry's mother) who came to his defense near the end of the movie looked EXACTLY like Ginny Weasely?
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:31 PM
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16. Dumbledore is in full command of his faculties through each
book. Dumbledore is beloved in the books because he is mysterious, playful (lemondrops) and cool under fire. He is a Leader of the first order. The idiot *playing* DumbleDORK ( ;) )was only in command of the stupid hat he was wearing. This dumbledork in the movies was not inspiring of anything except pity and derision.

Harry's mom looks exactly like the same lady that played her in Sorceror's Stone - with red hair. Hmmmm, Harry loves red heads! ;)
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:02 PM
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20. I haven't finished book four, but the movie very much gave the
appearance that Dumbledore was getting forgetful. That's why he kept harvesting his memories and putting them into the divinity bowl in his office.

I really wonder if Snape really kills Dumbledore, or if a sacrifice a la Obi One Kenobe, occurs? Afterall, though the movie is failing to reinforce it, there is life after death at Hogwarts, isn't there?
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:23 PM
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23. Once you complete the Book, this impostor playing Dumbledore
will offend you more than you thought possible. Dumbledore is the essence of wisdom in the books.

This faux acting malpractice by Gambon is offensive because he did NOT do his basic necessary homework before playing one of the most beloved characters in the book. The time limits on the movies strip the essence of the books to the most minimalist nature. That clueless oaf never read the books before playing the character.

Harry has to totally TRUST Dumbledore the most and you will see why once you read the book to the end. The book's ending is more terrifying and enlightening than the movie. The Goblet of Fire's book's ending has made a wide range of people cry. There is also something in the book that Harry has that is OVER THE MOON crucial to the hilarious Weasley Twins for Order of the Phoenix.

Potter fans all over the world have condemned this acting charade pulled by this Gambon git. You will be more enlightened once you read the whole of Goblet. Happy reading to you!:)
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 02:56 PM
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19. Gambon is a wonderful actor
but he doesn't project the quiet wisdom that Richard Harris ? did.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:07 PM
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22. And the scene where Harry's name comes out of the cup UGH
Dumbledore YELLED! Dumbledore does NOT yell!! He's the epitomy of calm, always... that was ridiculous.
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RayOfHope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 11:13 AM
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14. Another minor nitpick
Hermione kept saying "Pavarti" (Harry's date for the ball) when her name is "Parvati".
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Bike Punk Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 12:38 PM
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17. spoiler...
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 12:43 PM by Bike Punk
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:05 PM
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21. we just got back from seeing it & very much enjoyed it...
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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