Resort Owner Bans Children From Hotel But Allows Dogs

[matcom]

:popcorn:

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THE owner of an exclusive alpine resort has banned young children but is still allowing dogs in his hotel.

Roland Ballner says that children are always badly behaved and have vandalised his hotel and upset other guests on many previous occasions.

"My guests have a right to quiet and relaxation without the noise of children," said Mr Ballner, the owner of Hotel Cortisen at St Wolfgang.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,16937790-13762,00.html

[LostinVA]

1. Matcom, you are so evil

You just made yourself a big bowl of popcorn, right?

[matcom]

6. extra butter

;)

[LostinVA]

32. And probably a box of Milk-Duds, too...

[greatauntoftriplets]

2. Hmmmmmmmm.....

:popcorn: isn't my idea of breakfast, but it is appropriate right now.

And Mr. Ballner needs to remember that he was once a child. :)

[Pool Hall Ace]

23. You seem like such a sweet person.

"And Mr. Ballner needs to remember that he was once a child."

But I wish that anemic line could be retired. It has no meaning at all.

Perhaps Mr. Ballner was taught manners as a child, and that is why his tolerance for poor behavior is very low.

http://www.happilychildfree.com/breeders.htm

[SarahB]

3. Not a problem.

I have kids.
I work with kids.
I love kids.

However, if I'm paying big bucks to vacation and have "grown-up" time, I don't want to deal with someone else's kid bugging me in any way. I'd be more than happy to have kid-free resorts or restaurants to have that option if I want. Believe it or not, even those of us who like kids don't want to be attempting to have a romantic dinner at a nice restaurant (i.e. not a family restaurant) and hear someone's screaming 2 year old.

[LostinVA]

4. I totally agree with you, but it will be fun to watch this thread

Grow and grow and grow.....

I'm having a bad morning, so this is a good distraction.

[marc_the_dem]

26. there's a segment of society...

that prefers domestic animals over children... this guy caters to them and probably does well in doing so...

I'll take my $ and children elsewhere.

[LostinVA]

35. I think it's fine for that certain types of vacations/resorts to be

"child-free," and I guarantee alot of loving parents would enjoy that, too. Not Disney Word, Myrtle Beach, the Grand Canyon, etc., but there are certain types of restaurants or resorts that are very much adult-oriented. It does NOT mean people don't like kids. Geez.

I love my cat, but I wouldn't take her here: she's too choosy, and might not like the sheet thread count.

* I just called my mom -- she said she would have LOVED a place like this when we were growing, so she and Dad could go chill out for a weekend.....

MATCOM IS EVIL!!!

[Pool Hall Ace]

39. I've never been owned by a cat, but I am familiar enough

with them where I could totally see this.

"I love my cat, but I wouldn't take her here: she's too choosy, and might not like the sheet thread count."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[LostinVA]

43. I stay broke buying linen for her... no IKEA sheets for her n/t

[In_The_Wind]

5. Is it a chain?

[DS1]

7. I can go for that

[matcom]

9. i thought this would have been quite a dilemma for you?

:P

[DS1]

10. It was

But I'll be much less likely to find dogs going side to side almost perpendicular to the ski slopes.

And I can throw some bibles at the dogs :D

[matcom]

11. ah yes

the 'Gideon Punishment' :D

[Patiod]

12. And what's wrong with going almost perpendicular to the slope?

Huh? Some perfectly mature adults do that too. Admittedly they are scardy-cat adults who have ended up on slopes that are too steep for their meagre skills, but still.

(Oh, alright, I'll go back to the lodge and drink for the afternoon)

[Missy Vixen]

22. Cosmopolitans, anyone?

>(Oh, alright, I'll go back to the lodge and drink for the afternoon)

Let's bring southlandshari, too. :woohoo: Drinks are on me, ladies!

Julie

[southlandshari]

24. I'm SO there!

:woohoo:



:loveya:

[Patiod]

34. How 'bout a nice tequila drink, Julie?

We won't tell Bart, but we could even go with the house brand for for margueritas!

[southlandshari]

13. ....

:rofl:

























don't tell any of the other mods I laughed at that...

;)

[matcom]

18. i'm alerting on this post

:P

[southlandshari]

20. Have I told you lately...

:spank:

[LynneSin]

8. I have no problem with this!!

Why shouldn't there be resort places that are geared specifically for 'adults only'.

There's a reason I've never vacation in Orlando Fl - I find nothing relaxing when it comes to a vacation where I am surrounded by children especially when, yes, too many of them are totally out-of-control and their parents do nothing to calm them down. I've watched Nanny 911 on Fox and let me tell you - I see those same kids at the mall and other places.

So you know what - I would patronize a place like this where I know that I could enjoy my vacation without the distraction of obnoxious crazed kids.

[Atlas Mugged]

16. Same here

I love to go shopping when the kids are in school, too. That's the ONLY time you'll ever find me in a mall.

[LibertyLover]

40. Heck

I'm the mother of a 3 year old and I've got no problems with this at all. There are times I'd prefer to vacation with the dogs and leave the kid at home.

[xmas74]

14. I'm a parent and I have no problem w/ this.

There are places that should be adult only. Adult time is important. Who wants kids barging in on their quiet time? We should have places that are for adults only and places that are family-oriented.
Of course, I don't think kids are always badly behaved. I've been around many adults who behaved much worse than a child.

[China_cat]

15. But it's so much easier to kick out

a badly behaving adult than it is to remove an out of control child. Same goes for a badly behaving dog.

[xmas74]

17. It can be.

Depends on how bad the adult is. I used to be a dispatcher-I've got the stories. Children usually don't threaten w/ violence, compared to the adults that I've had to send officers out for.
Really, this is a great tool for families. Parents can look at the area and maybe get it through their thick skulls that this may not be the place to take Jr. on vacation. If one hotel is adults only than you can assume that many places in that area will probably cater to adults. Maybe they will decide that this is not the right kind of vacation for their family and will look at the known family destinations instead.

[China_cat]

19. The thing is that if you even dare to verbally try to

correct a child not your own, you run the risk of a lawsuit. I've seen it happen when you try to stop a child from doing something dangerous. All you do is TELL them not to do it and you have a parent in your face yelling at you that you DO NOT correct their child under ANY circumstances and if you continue they WILL bring in their lawyer.

Even when what you were trying to do was keep them from pulling a heavy piece of equipment down on their own heads.

[MountainLaurel]

27. Oh yeah

You'll hear this from librarians often: They try to keep a child from climbing over a railing where they can fall 20 feet down a staircase, and end up with the parent (who, of course, was on the computer 15 seconds before with no clue where the child was) in their face screaming about "Don't you touch my child".

But, if the kid had fallen and ended up a cabbage for the rest of her life, the parent would sue faster than you can "shouldhavehadavasectomy."

[xmas74]

37. That's why if it's bad enough you call the police.

Many will come down and speak w/ the child themselves, tell the parents it's time to leave and make a juvenile referral if needed.
When it comes to kids just call the police. It's easier.

[jmowreader]

47. Want real fun? Verbally correct PARENTS!

Or, in this case, breeders.

I'm walking down the aisle just this very afternoon and a woman was letting her 4-year-old kid hang off the side of a shopping cart. I see it and ask the woman to not let her child hang off the side of the cart. She whipped the cart to the side so she more easily get to me to chew my ass for telling her what to do.

Unfortunately for her kid, she whipped him right into a steel upright--which is bolted to the floor.

He's still alive, so far as I know--he hit hard enough you could hear it. (My ears are still ringing from the screaming, though.) And both I and the manager I called hope she sues--we'll be more than happy to testify as to what happened.

[Coventina]

21. No flames yet, to my surprise!

My personal feeling is: good!

I'd like to see more of this sort of thing, actually. I wish more hotel/resort owners would go after "niche" markets.

Child-free choices
Pet-free choices
Smoke-free choices (not just specific rooms, but the whole establishment)
Alcohol-free choices
etc.

And then have the reverse:

Child-friendly choices
Pet-friendly
Smoker-friendly
Alcohol-friendly
etc.

[Arugula Latte]

30. Republican-free choices

and religious nut free choices

That's what I want

[Rabrrrrrr]

25. Now if we could just get villages and cities to do the same...

and eventually states...

[Taverner]

28. Sounds good to me

I have kids but fully understand the need to either get away from the kids or if you dont have kids, not be around them.

[LynneSin]

29. Matcom - seems you're not getting that much of a flame war

:shrug:

[matcom]

36. i just report the news

let the PEOPLE decide what stories to flame

[Zomby Woof]

38. I want my money back!

:P The popcorn is already stale! :bounce:

[redqueen]

31. hahahahahahahaha

That's awesome. :D

[eyesroll]

33. Why is this even getting press?

There are plenty of adults-only hotels and resorts. There are B&Bs that don't allow kids -- even in relatively family-friendly destinations. Last I checked, Hedonism doesn't let kids in, and nobody's complained about that.

Is it because the owner makes a point of allowing dogs?

[RebelOne]

41. Hey, I can agree with that.

Dogs are so much better behaved than little kids. At least dogs understand sit, stay and shut up.

[arwalden]

42. That Suits Me Just Fine.

If dogs can be banned from other hotels. If Sandals Resort can prohibit gay couples... then this shouldn't be a problem either.

Children carry more communicable diseases than dogs do too.

[LostinVA]

I didn't know Sandals does that... really???

[Pool Hall Ace]

45. At one time, Sandals did ban gay couples, but apparently

that has been rescinded.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gayrights/story/0,12592,1325051,00.html

Holiday firm ends ban on gay couples

David Hencke, Westminster correspondent
Tuesday October 12, 2004

A holiday company which turned away gay couples from its resorts unexpectedly lifted the ban last night in the face of a campaign by an ex-government minister and sexual equality groups.

Sandals, the Caribbean resort company, announced it was lifting its ban on same-sex couples from 13 resorts, just before a spokesman was due to appear to defend its policy with the former minister, Barbara Roche, on BBC Radio 4's Today programme this morning. The company has resorts in Jamaica, St Lucia, Antigua and Bahamas.

Article continues
Sandals was under commercial pressure from London's mayor, Ken Livingstone, who had banned its advertisements from the tube because of its homophobic attitude to clients. Mr Livingstone was seeking to extend the ban to London's taxis.

Last night Mrs Roche claimed victory after receiving the news in a statement from the company's political lobbyists, Brown Lloyd James, that it had "recently lifted the ban on same sex couples". The statement was confirmed to the Guardian by the lobbyists. Sandals has operated a ban since 2001 and has been criticised for it in parliament.

See link for rest of article.

[Initech]

44. Oh. Wont. Somebody. Please. Think. Of. The. Children?

[billyskank]

46. They WERE thinking of the children!

:evilgrin: