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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:17 PM
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The Forbidden Fruit
The Fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.


It probably wasn't an apple.

What do you think it was?
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Scruffbunny Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:19 PM
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1. Pomagranite.
Or however you spell it. That way Persephone had the same fruit.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:23 PM
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4. You're right.
It's the most highly-prized fruit, and the Fruit of Love, all through the Middle East, and has been for ages.

You're our winner!

Redstone
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:32 PM
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10. Sometimes called the "Japanese" or "Chinese" Apple
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Scruffbunny Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:33 PM
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11. Huh. I didn't know that.
You learn something new every day.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:02 AM
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24. Maybe it is just a New York City thing...
http://www.barrypopik.com/article/520/chinese-apple-for-pomegranate

Chinese Apple (for "pomegranate")

Do New Yorkers call it a “Chinese apple” while everyone else calls it a “pomegranate”?

From the Dictionary of American Regional English:
...
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Chinese apple n

A pomegranate (Punica granatum).
1980 DARE File NYC (as of 1948), Chinese apple = pomegranate.
...
...
I didn’t find evidence for this on Google, or the historical New York Times full text database, or the Newspaper Archive database of regional American newspapers.

The pomegranate juice drink is called POM in New York City as is it elsewhere.

Perhaps “Chinese apple” is historical; perhaps people once associated it with Chinatown; perhaps a few grocers had once chose this name to label the item. From my experience, it’s a “pomegranate” here.

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:21 PM
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2. sex
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Scruffbunny Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:26 PM
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8. Actually, probably.
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Guy Fawkes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:22 PM
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3. Coconuts.
That shit is hard to open!
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:23 PM
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5. A very firm banana. n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:25 PM
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6. Are you suggesting...
the Bible isn't....>gasp<...literal? Are you intimating that it might be full of...of...of symbolism and allegory? Blasphemer!
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:01 PM
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19. but, but, but, but Jesus!
Jesus!

:sarcasm:
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:06 PM
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20. A common misconception.
The fruit is unnamed. And, nowhere is the serpent called anything but a serpent. No devil, no Satan, no apple...

Something to stash away when you want to confound Fristians. :evilgrin:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:37 PM
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23. Actually, during the Middle Ages there were Mystery Plays
with Adam and Eve. The apple was the most abundant fruit in Europe so they got stuck with an apple, but no apple mentioned in the Bible.

Actually, some Muslim traditions say a banana!
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:25 PM
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7. I was going to say
a stick and berries.:evilgrin:
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:27 PM
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9. That's a rather muscular Eve...
Paradise had a gym, apparently.
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Scruffbunny Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:34 PM
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12. I was just about to say that.
Either that, or it's actually Steve.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:37 PM
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22. Michaelangelo drew and painted from male models.
Look at his sculpture, the women look like men with breasts. At least the nudes. The Pieta is a marvel.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:35 PM
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13. Agriculture.
It's obviously metaphor; the birth of agriculture came as the result of knowledge that probably seemed near-godlike (control of the environment, etc) and ended humanity's time in "Eden", when they merely ate of the fruits of the trees (the pre-agricultural hunter-gatherer lifestyle). Of course, that's just my opinion.
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HawkerHurricane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:50 PM
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17. Concur
The 'garden of Eden' story tells the 'why' of things... why do snakes crawl, why does mommy bleed, why does childbirth hurt, why do we have to work hard all day... a look back at the (non-existant) 'good old days' when you didn't have to work hard on the farm all day, but rather just helped yourself to the food just lying around.
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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:37 PM
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14. I thought it was a fig
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:43 PM
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15. I was thinking Ken Mehlman


But what the fuck do I know?

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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:32 AM
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27. LOL
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:40 AM
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28. LOL, you are evil
and must be destroyed!

I love the gif, by the way. Did you see Mehlman on CNN this morning? What a f*cking twit that man is. Blathering the script given him by Karl Rove. Pathetic.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:46 PM
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16. Adam's
balls. Can I say that on DU?

Well, she did pluck them and talk him into doing so too, so I figure maybe she was playing with them or something.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 08:59 PM
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18. It appears to be dangling right above Eve's ear
as far as I can tell.
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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-29-05 09:34 PM
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21.  I don't know, but it would be hard to resist a cherimoya
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ksilvas Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:19 AM
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25. It was a fig.
I think Joesph Campbell talked about this in his "Power of Myth"
series. The fig and the fig tree in acient times represented wisdom.
When Siddhartha sat under the Bodi Tree and became the buddah
the bodi tree was thought to be a fig tree.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-05 11:19 AM
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26. I think it was a "cherry" hint hint wink wink
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