Having just seen the ad for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

[Twillig]

I can say in my sodden state that the Veruca Salt character seemed to be quite weak. Nothing as good as the original.

I am torn.

Will it suck? Tim Burton has a lot to answer for re: Planet of The Apes. Need I say more?

But Depp is always good.

So far.

Thoughts?

[proud2BlibKansan]

1. I love the original too much to

even think about seeing this one.

[BattyDem]

10. Thank you!

I thought I was the only person who felt that way. :toast:

[YellowRubberDuckie]

16. The original veers way off from the book.

First of all, the title is CHARLIE AND THE CHOCOLATE FACTORY, not Willy Wonka. Second of all, Wonka was too chipper in the movie. He's much darker according to the book. This is supposed to be a more true the book movie than the original, and it's not going to be a musical. I say give it a chance and watch it as a completely different movie. But of course, I'm not trying to tell you what to do, I'm just trying to open you up to new possibilities.
Duckie

[BattyDem]

20. I know it's different than the book ...

but the book never touched me the way the movie did. I loved it as a kid and I grew to love it even more as an adult. It's got a kind of weirdness that you really can't describe - and Gene Wilder is absolutely brilliant in it!

I won't pay to see the new one, but I'll probably catch it when it comes on cable - though I can't guarantee I'll watch the whole movie ... I watched the updated version of Planet of the Apes until the very end and I lived to regret it, LOL!

[YellowRubberDuckie]

22. Well, I think the first problem was that it was Planet of the Apes.

Apes that talk and run the world? COME ON! LOL
Duckie

[Rabrrrrrr]

2. The trailers I've seen look pretty cool

But you could be right about Veruca. The original was perfectly nasty - gonna be hard to top.

My biggest fear is that Wonka is gonna come off really stupidly odd, instead of cool-ly odd. From what I've seen in the trailers, Depp has a really weird look to him - and not the kind of weird that Wonka should have, either. I hope it's gonna work, but it's kinda freaky in a bad way.

[supernova]

3. I'm looking forward to it!

:D I think it will be great. Roald Dahl said he wasn't happy with the way the original turned out, so the family gave TB and JD another crack at it.

This is not a "remake." It is another adaptation of the book.

[Cha]

9. Interesting bit of trivia about

Roald Dahl~the author and the "adaptation" angle.

[Bleacher Creature]

4. I can't figure out what's new about it.

It doesn't make sense to remake a movie exactly the same as before. It's one thing to take a relatively obscure, older movie and redo it, but it's another to just redo it exactly.

Remember when they remade Psycho shot-for-shot??

The preview looked like the exact same movie as the Gene Wilder version, with different actors and a newer set.

[ghostsofgiants]

6. Apparently it's a lot different than Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory

Truer to the book, no singing (except the Oompa Loompas, who sang in the book), etc. Apparently Roald Dahl hated Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

[mondo joe]

12. This version is much more true to the book.

It's not a remake of the first movie.

It's another interpretation of the book.

[MrSlayer]

5. It would have been cooler with Marilyn Manson as Wonka.

Which was being bounced around for awhile.

[hyphenate]

7. The original can't be beat

regardless. There is and always will be an undercurrent of bizarreness to the original--something more than just "odd" or "weird" that makes it stick in your mind. The ads for the new one don't instill that much difference in my mind. I might see it, but it would be a stretch for me right now to say I'll enjoy it anywhere as much as I enjoyed the first one.

[Cha]

8. I'll wait and see..

I loved "Finding Neverland" with Depp and Freddie Highmore(who is Charlie).

I still remember "Beetlejuice" and that's how I think of Tim Burton.

And I haven't seen Johnny Depp in anything I didn't like. "Pirates Of The Carribean being right up there with "Finding Neverland".

[evlbstrd]

21. I was taken by complete surprise by "Pirates."

Depp was maginificently over-the-top with his Richards-based interpretation of his character. Who woulda thought that a move based on a theme park ride would be so damned entertaining?
Depp has never ceased to amaze. I may just pay to see this one.

[Malikshah]

11. From what I"ve read of reviews

Violet's character is the more loathsome in this one.

Veruca's end, however, is something to see, according to folks.

Some say it's truer to the book, but that's all up to interpretation

the "original" was much lighter in tone than the book, though.

[peacefreak]

13. After seeing some of the stills of Depp

I wondered if he patterned Wonka after Michael Jackson. In Pirates of the Carribean he used Keith Richards as a model. So now there's scary food for thought!

[China_cat]

15. I wondered if he patterned Wonka after Michael Jackson

I had exactly the same thought. Especially since the Wonka character as played by Depp seems to have that same predatory look to the eyes.

[ghostsofgiants]

17. I read that he patterned it after Marilyn Manson.

I forget where though.

[BattyDem]

18. My first reaction when I saw the pictures of Depp ...

was that he looked like Michael Jackson. He has that weird, pasty, plastic look to him, LOL!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

14. Yeah this trailer seemed kinda creepy and not so fun to me.

[democracyindanger]

19. This is the kind of story Burton does best. 'Apes' wasn't.

Burton is Mr. Twisted Fantasy. 'Apes' was straightforward sci-fi.