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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:31 PM
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Serious Question: Is this Flag Desecration?
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:37 PM
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1. Is this?
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:38 PM
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2. Nice!
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:46 PM
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3. LOL....yes it is....
Just thought a porn star (Mary Carey) might *burn* in hell faster with Old Glory embracing her ta-ta's. Gotta think like a Rovian :patriot:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:48 PM
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4. Well, parts of her will burn slower, since Congress outlawed burning flags
her tits are in no danger of melting.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:51 PM
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5. You don't consider georgie porn?
It's a close call. One is fucking everyone on film, the other is just fucking everyone.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 04:58 PM
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6. So very true...and in answer to your serious question...
...a serious answer: yes. On both the bra, and Bush signing flags.

TITLE 4 > CHAPTER 1 > § 8
§ 8. Respect for flag

(Snip)

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker’s desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

(snip)

(g) The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

(snip)

(j) No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

Of Interest:
(k) The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:02 PM
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7. Thanks! Does this cover patriotic....
...paper plates for my 4th of July festivities?

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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:10 PM
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15. I don't think anyone's gonna come and get you, but...
(i) The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:14 PM
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16. Interesting, thanks.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:04 PM
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8. Too much flag worship
I like Bill Hicks' idea of having a picture of your parents fucking on the flag instead of stars and stripes.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:05 PM
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9. This is Hard Work......
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:14 PM
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10. Oh boy.....


Holy Jihadi Feet !
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 05:45 PM
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11. No desecration imaginations ?
Goodness knows where banning flag burning will lead us ?

Just wondering :dilemma:
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:08 PM
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12. At least you didn't post the one
With G. Gordon Liddy sporting that banana smuggler.

:scared:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:19 PM
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13. In my opinion, yes.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 06:20 PM by Left Is Write
I feel the same way about flag underwear. I saw some cute little boxer briefs in my son's size today.

I just couldn't get past the idea of the flag draping his bum, though, and I declined to buy them.

Edited because the image didn't work - they were full flag underwear, not just a flag picture.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 06:51 PM
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14. I understand...here's the big boy size:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:15 PM
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17. That's not a serious question.
Why did you lie to me?

B-)
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:30 PM
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19. LOL....No, Yes, I was serious.....
..must prepare ourselves for :scared: :nuke: :scared: tweaking the Bill of Rights :patriot: <---and this little guy may become illegal too?
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Outrider Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:23 PM
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18. Yes,
but only because she's a repub.
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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 07:31 PM
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20. Here's the appropriate entry from the Flag Code
Edited on Fri Jun-24-05 07:36 PM by ReadTomPaine
Title 4, Chapter 1: Section 8 of The Flag Code

Sec. 8. — Respect for flag
No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; the flag should not be dipped to any person or thing. Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor.

The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property.

The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.

The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free.

The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red, always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general.

The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way.

The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling.

The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.

The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown.

No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.

The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning



There's a copy of the full code here: http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html#5


Some clothing falls under the rules for bunting, but much does not.

On edit: After a look at the photos above I think every one fails the test. They all fall afoul of the code.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:22 PM
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21. It probably shouldn't be used as a doormat....
...either?

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ReadTomPaine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:33 PM
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23. What on earth were those people thinking!
And who wrote that ad copy, sheesh!
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-05 08:23 PM
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22. only if a democrat left a stain on the blue part
then it's the crime of the millenium
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