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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:44 PM
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Poll question: Peter Green
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Tom Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:47 PM
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1. all time great
but for "Then Play On" give much credit to Danny Kirwan also!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:49 PM
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4. Kirwan can mimic Green very eerily
I have a live album called "Madison Blues Live" and much of it is them doing twin solos (it is some serious hardcore shit, utterly amazing)---but on the rideout to Black magic Woman, for example, sometimes Kirwan plays exactly like Green, who taught him well
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:57 PM
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10. Want to hear a really eerie mimic? "Man Of Action" on THIS CD:
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 09:58 PM by Bush_Eats_Beef


It's Jeremy Spencer doing a perfect John Mayall vocal.

Mayall was reportedly not amused. Spencer croons in the famous nasal style made popular by Mayall, "Feel my POWER..."

:toast:

PS: It's a killer double CD of the Green era, regardless of the track I just mentioned.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:01 PM
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13. I have that shit. It is amazing
:rofl: He also does Alexis Korner and some others

His John Mayall impersonation is indeed dead fucking on. Spencer had a gift to mimic---he can do Elmore James on the guitar pretty damn well.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:47 PM
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2. I am listening to Peter Green right now
I am listening to Fleetwood Mac live at the BBC---playing some sick blues

In my opinion, Green is THE FINEST rock/blues guitarist of all time.
I even rigged my Les Paul to sound like his by fitting the neck pickup in upside down, just like he had on his.


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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:47 PM
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3. So nice to know that there are at least a few folks out there who realize
that Fleetwood Mac existed before 1976 *lol*
I think comparisons with Clapton et al are a little over the top, but I sure like him anyway.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:52 PM
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5. He is better than Clapton
no doubt. I have the two back to back Bluesbreakers records, With Eric Clapton and the next, A Hard Road with Green. I prefer Green. He can play high intensity, blistering blues rock solos but it is his sparse, soulful minor blues breaks that really stand out. I have never heard a player say more with so few notes, all played in the most beautiful phrases
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jandrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:56 PM
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9. Rory Gallagher comes close.
As far as being a great player who was both flashy and soulful.

Green is indeed quite good. Love those old Fleetwood Mac albums.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:59 PM
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11. THIS one.
I cannot imagine a fan of guitar and / or blues-based rock NOT owning this CD.

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jandrok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:08 PM
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"Live in Europe" was my introduction to Gallagher.
Truly fantastic. The guy just blew me away. I have never understood why he never acheived commercial success. He had the classic blues power trio profile, he had the chops, he had the SOUL.

Hey, you know that ther's also a DVD of the Irish Tour?
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:38 PM
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21. Haven't seen it...but I notice that Amazon's got it.


check this one out too:

It's a CD reissue of a double-vinyl album that was originally on Tomato records called "Albert King Live."

Gallagher does a guest solo on "As The Years Go Passing By." He hits one stinging sustained note that will make your jaw drop to the floor.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000A0DVN/qid=1119583965/sr=1-18/ref=sr_1_18/002-5884908-4460840?v=glance&s=music



Disc: 1

1. Overall Junction
2. Blues at Sunrise
3. Kansas City
4. As the Years Go Passing By
5. That's What the Blues Is All About
6. Matchbox Holds My Clothes

Disc: 2

1. Watermelon Man
2. Stormy Monday
3. Don't Burn Down the Bridge
4. I'm Gonna Call You as Soon as the Sun Goes Down
5. I'll Play the Blues for You
6. Jam in a Flat

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:08 PM
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18. I'll have to find it
I dig Gallagher
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:42 PM
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22. "Million Miles Away" was the one that got major FM airplay
When this was released in 1974, San Francisco's KSAN put it into "heavy rotation." I still remember the original double-vinyl album with the all-grey cover and red letters:



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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:03 PM
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23. Much much much much better than the overhyped Clapton
Imagine how sore Georgio Gomelsky's hand was after writing "Clapton is God" all over London

The ONLY good thing Clapton ever did was insisting that Hubert Sumlin be included on the Wolf in London sessions.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:09 PM
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25. Clapton is incredible
I love his early work with the Yardbirds, Mayall and Cream and alot of his recent "back to the roots" blues stuff. I do not like much of his 70s stuff or his other excursions.

During the London Howlin' Wolf sessions, Clapton took Sumlin back to his house and took him to a room where he kept his guitar collection. He told Sumlin that he could have any guitar in there, free of charge. Sumlin saw a guitar case lying behind the piano and said "I want the one in there". Clapton was like "anyone but that, I meant". But Sumlin insisted "you said ANY guitar." So Clapton relented and gave Hubert the guitar. Hubert does not even remember what kind of guitar it was, and only played it a few times. He gave it back to Clapton.



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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:18 PM
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26. Well, he has certainly made a career out of his "love for the blues"
(I don't know if I should put a registered trademark symbol after the phrase or not)

I have just never cared for the man's playing or presentation. He (and the blues playing lawyers who lifted him to godhead status) are the single biggest obstacle in convincing younger people that the blues is not some ridiculous and embarrasing archivist form all about "hot licks" and "tasty fills" Well, he and that dead guy from Texas...
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:26 PM
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27. I don't think it is fair to blame him for all of the neo-blues garbage
Edited on Thu Jun-23-05 11:27 PM by Zuni
that is around.

I agree that there is way too much souless blues out there today---Muddy Waters it ain't!

But some of that blame you give to Clapton and vaughn can go back further to Buddy Guy, Otis Rush, Freddie King, BB King and Magic Sam, who pioneered the modern style of "Hot Guitar" Blues.

The fact is that I love Buddy Guy, Otis Rush, Freddie King, BB King and Magic Sam and even Clapton and Vaughn. Just because their soul- less clones put out crappy sub par "blues" rock doesn't mean they are to blame.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:52 PM
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7. Comparisons with Clapton as a fellow Bluesbreaker...
In fairness to Green, he replaced Clapton, and to some degree must have been expected to pick up the torch and run with it. Given all of that, I've always found these two albums to be "reasonably" comparable:





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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:55 PM
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8. They just re-released "A Hard Road" with a second CD of other stuff
there are even 4 songs recorded with paul Butterfield on Harmonica! (Paul Butterfield is one of my all time faves too)

There are singles, outtakes, stuff never released plus all of a Hard Road remastered.

One song to look out for on disc two is their cover of Sonny Boy Williamson's "Your Funeral My Trial"
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:01 PM
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14. Yeah, that one's on my wish list...
...I've picked it up a number of times at Tower and got scared off by the $30 price tag.

Track Listings
Disc: 1
1. Hard Road
2. It's Over
3. You Don't Love Me
4. Stumble
5. Another Kinda Love
6. Hit the Highway
7. Leaping Christine
8. Dust My Blues
9. There's Always Work
10. Same Way
11. Supernatural
12. Top of the Hill
13. Someday After a While (You'll Be Sorry)
14. Living Alone
15. Evil Woman Blues
16. All My Life
17. Ridin' on the L & N
18. Little by Little
19. Eagle Eye

Disc: 2

1. Looking Back
2. So Many Roads
3. Sitting in the Rain
4. Out of Reach
5. Mama Talk to Your Daughter
6. Alabama Blues
7. Curly
8. Rubber Duck
9. Greeny
10. Missing You
11. Please Don't Tell
12. Your Funeral and My Trial
13. Double Trouble
14. It Hurts Me Too
15. Jenny
16. Picture on the Wall
17. First Time Alone

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:07 PM
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17. it is worth every penny
wait till you hear "Curly"---it is an instrumental that is like early heavy metal---it SMOKES

Their cover of Otis Rush's "Double Trouble", one of the most soulful minor blues records ever recorded is incredible. Green is best when playing slow, minor blues
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 09:52 PM
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6. I voted
the equal of Clapton, Page, Beck,,
Peter Green was damn good!
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:01 PM
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12. Other than Peter Who? both answers are kind of right.
Peter Green is that good AND managed to not wind up in complete Syd Barret-ville.

On an odd coincidence, I just got the Judas Priest box set (mainly for the DVD of the "Screaming for Vengeance" tour and one of the encores was Priest's cover of The Green Manalishi (with the Two Pronged Crown) so Mr. Green has some fans in, shall we say, unusual places. (It's a solid version by the way!)
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:03 PM
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15. There used to be a band called The Rockets...
...made up of several ex-members of Mitch Ryder's Detroit Wheels. They did a pretty solid live version of Oh Well.

And, of course, the most famous Green cover of all time, Santana's "Black Magic Woman"...

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:04 PM
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16. Santana's first big hit was a Green song
Black Magic Woman. You can here echoes of Green's playing in Santana's old stuff, back when Santana rocked.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:12 PM
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20. Boy that's for sure
(about Santana that is!)

I just cringe at anything from Santana in the last ten years. I'm glad he had all the success--but teaming up with Rob Thomas--ouch!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:11 PM
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19. I have some of his stuff with the Splinter Group
From what I have heard, they play alot of Robert Johnson songs, and do them pretty damn well.

Green is not the player he was 35 yrs ago. But then again neither is Clapton.
I have read some interviews with him and he seems to have recovered pretty well from his mental illness.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 11:04 PM
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24. A cautionary tale about the dangers of religous belief
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