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Nomad559 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:03 PM
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Canadian female sex killer to leave prison


Karla Homolka (Bernardo)

Karla Homolka - Serial killers

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Karla Homolka was a pretty, bright young woman who helped drug, rape, torture and kill schoolgirls and even presented her own teen-age sister to her boyfriend as a gift.

Homolka, 35, has fascinated and horrified Canadians since committing her crimes more than a decade ago. Canada's most notorious female convict, she is due to be released from prison within weeks, and the country's anxiety and anger is again on the rise.

Homolka videotaped the murders with her psychopathic husband and will leave a prison in Joliette, Quebec, in early July after serving a 12-year sentence for manslaughter for her part in the death of three girls and the rape of another.

Homolka and her then-husband Paul Bernardo kidnapped, sexually assaulted, tortured and killed two teen-age girls in the early 1990s in southern Ontario.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:05 PM
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1. her husband is pure evil
and she is not much better. She allowed Her husband to rape her little sister after she drugged her :grr:

her little sister died of an overdose that night
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:16 PM
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4. Not sure why this is in the Lounge... but since it is.
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 08:19 PM by CanuckAmok
The Niagara Regional Police completely fucked the investigation up. They were so hot to convict Paul Bernardo for murder, that they offered Karla a sweetheart deal for her testimony.

Had they been more effective in their search of the Bernardo home, they would have found the hidden videotapes of the rapes/murders, which would have been enough evidence to convict Bernardo without Homolka's testimony, and she could have been tried for more crimes than she was instead of being given, basically, amnesty from being charged with murder in the death of her sister, and as an accessory in the murders of the two murder victims.

Instead, Ken Murray, the defense lawyer, was told by Homolka where the tapes were hidden, and he broke into the home and stole them. He hid them until after his client was offered her deal, and disclosed them at the trial. He was facing disbarment and criminal charges, but I don't know if he was ever charged or disbarred.

The lack of communication between the Niagara Regional Police and the Scarborough and Toronto police forces (Bernardo had been a predatory rapist in Scarborough but had not been captured) and the Ontario Provincial Police not only let Bernardo's rapes go on for literally years, but complicated the efforts of the Crown Prosecutors to build their case against Bernardo and Homolka.

And, lest we forget, the only reason Bernardo/Homolka were ever caught is because Homolka turned her husband in as the Scarborough Rapist in a moment of anger, after he beat her with a flashlight... if it had not been for that moment of self-interested revenge on the part of Homolka, they may have never been captured. There was no indication of any kind of remorse or regret on her part for her involvement. In fact, she was left alone for hours with each murder victim while they were still alive, and she didn't take any opportunity to release the girls and/or escape from what she later stated was her terrifying fear of Bernardo. Yeah, whatever.
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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:19 PM
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5. That is truly the scary part
I was living in Hamilton at the time of all that.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:22 PM
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6. Hmm...
I was still in the Forces then, but I was dating the manager of a St. Catharines radio station and spent some time there through 92-95. I covered a few of the preliminary hearings for the station when they were short-staffed. Plus, I went to highschool with one of the Bridesmaids from their wedding... Six Degrees of Southern Ontario.
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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:26 PM
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8. I wouldn't have wanted to be in that courtroom for anything.
Damn, that is coming full circle.

St. Kitts radio station......97.7??? That's the only station that I listened to up there!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:29 PM
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10. Nope.
And I'm not sayin' because I don't want to identify my former love-interest. But she was way hot.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:00 PM
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22. Murray was Bernardo's lawyer, not Homolka's
and it was Bernardo who gave him instructions to the tapes, not Homolka. Otherwise, a pretty snazzy story.

Needless to say, Homolka is an evil woman and it's quite shocking that she will be released this early. Note that Bernardo, in addition to the two "schoolgirl" killings, was also a serial rapist, and that one of his rape victims remembered seeing a woman with a video camera, a charge the police dismissed as delusion. Nope. Karla was there.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:36 PM
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29. She filmed his rapes?
Didn't most of them take place near bus stations near Toronto?
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 10:44 PM
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33. not eh Scarborough rapes...
just the rapes of French/Mahaffey
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 05:30 PM
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34. Apparently, at least one of the Scarborough rape victims
remembers as woman with a video camera, so it is postulated that she did film at least one of those rapes.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:33 PM
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28. there was a story about this in LBN
and someone went ape-shit criticizing it because it was Canadian news and not American

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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:10 PM
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2. Have the families of
Leslie and Kristen had anything to say about that slimes release? She should be rotting in prison for her role in that. Bitch!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:15 PM
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3. I watched a Special on her last week....
on CBC. I couldn't believe what I was seeing and hearing. She is one of the most vile, evil persons to ever walk this earth. How and why the Crown would make a deal with this devil, especially when it wasn't necessary anymore, is beyond me. Someone in Canada will end up offing this POS just because everyone hates her so much, mark my words.

I cannot begin to tell you the extent to which I loathe this woman because of what I learned in the period of one hour. She is evil personified.
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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:33 PM
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12. Because they didn't have the video tapes
until they made a deal with her.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:24 PM
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7. Who cares if she is a murdering, slimeball, evil bitch
She's hot!!
:woohoo:





:sarcasm:
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:35 PM
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13. She looks damned evil in that picture.
She's a sex offender, who murdered her sister and contributed to rape. I'm not an expert on Canadian law, but I certainly hope they keep track of her.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:41 PM
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15. They are looking at options.
Because she is such a high-profile (soon to be) ex-convict, she has an interest in being monitored by the police, and the police have an interest in monitoring her movements.

She has stated that she wants to visit her Family in St. Catherines, where the murders took place, but she would be in grave danger if she did. Last I heard, she was going to be relocated in the suburbs of Montreal.

What is interesting is that it has been pretty uch proven by psyche experts that she is psychotic, narcissistic, and amoral, but she also needs to be influenced by someone more prone to commit these types of crimes. Basically she would not likely initiate such acts on her own. And, even with that being known, she has cultivated a "relationship" with a male sex-offender currently in prison, and was even allowed by the authorities to exchange letters, photos, and even underwear with him while serving her time.

I'm a firm believer that once one's sentance is served, one should be allowed to live with the same freedoms as everyone else, but she clearly did not get the time she deserved, and she has not been rehabilitated one bit.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:50 PM
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18. The risk is too high with sex offenders.
Jail is a punishment and not necessarily rehabilitation. In cases where there is a sickness at the root of the crime (sex offenders), there should be some community supervision.

Note: I'm not saying that she should be lynched or treated poorly. However, people with high-risks to reoffend and have committed such heinous crimes should not be released without supervision. It's not fair to the public. It's not helpful to the offender.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:30 PM
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26. serial offenders
are not rehabilitable. No matter how much good behavior they have in jail or how well they respond to therapy, a true serial sexually motivated predator is a complete sociopath and will fake good behavior as a way of continuing what they want to do.

In my opinion though, serial sex criminals are always male. There is not one recorded case of a female killer that was a true serial killer---there are no female John Wayne Gacys, Gary Ridgeways (Green River Killer), Ted Bundys or Paul Bernardos. There are prolific mass murderers and sociopaths that are female, but none that kill out of a predatory, almost uncontrollable sexual desire.

A true serial killer is only human looking---they possess none of the moral and emotional qualities of a full human being
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:52 PM
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30. she is a serial accomplice, then.
and there are plenty of offenders for her to enable.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:24 PM
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23. I think that assesment is correct
she does not posess significant moral empathy for others---obviously, but without Bernardo she would have never tortured and aided in rape and murder either. Bernardo was the sadistic monster, she was the willing lackey, who would literally allow her husband to rape her little sister.

I doubt she will kill again, or be involved in the kind of heinous sex crimes she was before, but she clearly has not been punished to the extent which her crimes deserve
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:28 PM
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25. She's already started.
She's forming relationships with other sex offenders. There will be plenty of opportunities to latch onto someone else.

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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:28 PM
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9. Laura Prepon is playing her in a movie
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Lauri16 Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:32 PM
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11. No intentions of seeing it.
Not sure how real they can make it anyway since there was very little that was actually made public. And from what I remember of the girls' families, especially Kristin's Mom, they would have nothing to do with a movie.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:40 PM
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14. Hey, it turns out that Bernardo and Homolka had one of those...
over-the top weddings that we're all complaining about today!

"If it was to be a grand wedding, then people could be expected to donate money and gifts on a similarly grand scale. Paul viewed the entire process as a great business opportunity. 'If I spend fifty dollars a plate, I expect to get a hundred dollars a person,' the junior accountant proclaimed. He told them he'd set a goal of realizing $50,000 from the wedding."

http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/notorious/bernardo/murder_3.html?sect=5
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:47 PM
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17. Crime Library is actually a very good site.
Not too sensationalistic, and chock-a-block with hard fact.

Want to read about a truly "evil" person? Check out "Pee Wee Gaskins". I don't know if he can really be called evil, because he seems to be insane, and therefore can't be morally culpable. In any event, his story is just bonkers.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:31 PM
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27. you want a real crazy one?
read about Albert Fish---the sickest serial killer I have ever read about.
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:45 PM
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16. She's definitely going to be a pariah where ever she goes
Don't forget that her current boyfriend is also a murderer. The woman has great taste in men.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:55 PM
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20. I thought she had a girlfriend now
They must have broken up.
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-05 10:30 PM
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35. More on that:
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:51 PM
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19. So she moved away from Walnut Grove and look what happened!
This really is Nelly Oleson, isn't it?

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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 08:56 PM
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21. Oy, if looks could kill
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u4ic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:27 PM
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24. I can't believe this:
http://tinyurl.com/d9o24

Strangers volunteer to help freed Homolka
People offering money: Lawyer
Some even want her as roommate

MONTREAL — Strangers are stepping forward to offer Karla Homolka places to live and even financial support when she's released from prison in less than two weeks, says her lawyer, Sylvie Bordelais.


:wtf:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:56 PM
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31. I read a book about her
Edited on Wed Jun-22-05 10:01 PM by proud2Blib
And I believe she is every bit as evil as her husband. She 'gave' her virgin sister to hubby as a Christmas present. And her sister died from the effects of the drug they used to knock her out so he could rape her.

She could have stopped him by turning him in. But she did not until she got mad at him for beating her.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-05 09:58 PM
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32. Well, that look on her face would kill a man's sex drive...
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