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praxiz Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 06:44 PM
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Blade Runner. (the Leon-scene)

I haven't seen Blade Runner in years .. and i mean YEARS .....

What the guy named Leon said, suddenly hit a key with me.

He's a replicant, so he's only reciting sayings and shit, but:

"how long do I live?"
"four years"
"more than you!"

PAINFUL.. LIVE IN FEAR, ISN'T IT?

..


wake up


...


time to die.



Goodbye.



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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:03 PM
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1. Deckard was a replicant, too.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:59 PM
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8. REALLY????
:wow:
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:36 PM
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12. That of course leaves other inconsistencies
Edited on Sat Jun-18-05 11:37 PM by jpgray
Since Deckard in the movie was much weaker than the other replicants. But they did take out his wife and his sheep and other evidence of his sustained "normal" life that were in the book.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:15 PM
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2. Fantastic movie!!! a True Classic.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:17 PM
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3. It becomes more poignant the older one is.
That's my reaction.
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:20 PM
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4. Here is something that hit me after a while:
The whole movie is a Voight-Kampf test.

An empathy test in itself.

All my friends at the time of the movie's release (early-mid teens) wanted the scary replicants to be destroyed.

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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:26 PM
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5. It just keeps getting better with each viewing
At the time of its release, I liked it, even though (in retrospect) I didn't quite get it - evidently, along with scads of other people. After seeing it several more times over the years, I bought the Director's Cut on DVD the minute it came out. The DC is a different and much better version.

The look on Rutger Hauer's face as he leaves his creator's apartment still haunts me every single time I watch that scene.
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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:44 PM
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7. not to start an argument but...
Deckard being a replicant renders the plot non-sensical, which is why I prefer the original version.

If the cops were using a replicant to kill other replicants, then why "grow" such a weakling? Leon would have killed Deckard had Rachel not intervened. Zhora almost chokes him to death, Pris beats the heck out of him, likewise Roy... who spares him precisely because the replicants are, in the words of their creator, more human than human.

Besides this, it's well established that replicants are prone to rebellion. Would you trust this most important job to a replicant, who could ultimately prove more unreliable and dangerous than a human?

The whole point of the movie is that the artificial humans have more life and feeling in them than their human counterparts. In the end, Deckard finds a small bit of his own lost humanity through them. If he's simply another replicant, the movie is reduced to a very dark shaggy dog story.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:07 PM
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9. I don't care what Scott says, Deckard is human
The poignancy lies with the fact that the fugitives are so much more emotive, and more ravenous for life, than he. That Roy chooses to release the bird is indicative that Deckard himself will finally be given the chance to escape his own private hell.

Flesh and blood, that one is.
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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 11:33 PM
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11. precisely...
My thoughts exactly. Scott, although the director, shouldn't be taken as gospel on the matter. He's never been consistent over the years about the issue (at least, in the decade before the re-release).
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Taxloss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 07:41 PM
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6. "I've seen things you wouldn't believe;
C-beams sparkling in the Tannhauser gate; starships on fire off the arm of Orion.

All these memories lost; like tears in rain."
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-18-05 08:17 PM
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10. Holden: You're in a desert, walking along in the sand...
when all of a sudden you look down...
Leon: What one?
Holden: What?
Leon: What desert?
Holden: It doesn't make any difference what desert, it's completely hypothetical.
Leon: But, how come I'd be there?
Holden: Maybe you're fed up. Maybe you want to be by yourself. Who knows? You look down and see a tortoise, Leon. It's crawling toward you...
Leon: Tortoise? What's that?
Holden: You know what a turtle is?
Leon: Of course!
Holden: Same thing.
Leon: I've never seen a turtle. (pause) But I understand what you mean.
Holden: You reach down and you flip the tortoise over on its back, Leon.
Leon: Do you make up these questions, Mr. Holden? Or do they write 'em down for you?
Holden: The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.
Leon: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, I'M NOT HELPING?
Holden: I mean you're not helping! Why is that, Leon?
(Leon has become visibly shaken)
Holden: They're just questions, Leon. In answer to your query they're written down for me. It's a test, designed to provoke an emotional response. (pause) Shall we continue?
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