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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:28 PM
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The only white man who can play the blues
(And it AIN'T Eric Clapton!)

Johnny Winter



You ain't lived until you've heard him do Tobacco Road!

http://www.johnnywinter.net/
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 PM
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1. White men can actually play the blues
but usually they have to be from England or Ireland.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:33 PM
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7. Van's the man!
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:35 PM
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8. My thoughts exactly!!
:yourock:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:40 PM
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11. You are, indeed, a wise person.
:toast: :beer:
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noahmijo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:29 PM
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2. Actually I thought you were going to say Stevie Ray Vaughn
I'll check out this Johnny Winter guy though.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 PM
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4. Stevie Ray was definitely up there
He died WAY too soon.
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pearl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 PM
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6. A Pretty new kid on the block
Johnny Lang (spelling may be wrong)
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ofrfxsk Donating Member (817 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 PM
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3. Stevie Ray?
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:31 PM
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5. Oh i don't know. This guy is pretty good
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:36 PM
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10. George Thorogood
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:42 PM
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12. I had an argument about him with my sister-in-law.
I say George is R&B, and not bad, but not blues.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:51 PM
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19. He is more a Kansas City blues man
which is a bit more rocking than the standard blues.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:55 PM
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21. I grew up in and live in KC.
Count Basie jumped the blues.
Jay McShann still swings the blues.
Joe Turner shouted the blues.

I disagree.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:25 AM
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32. He's a cross-genre guy
but most often he does blues.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:40 AM
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38. That's evident.
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 12:41 AM by evlbstrd
Rock and roll, R & B, Country, it's all based on black blues.

edit to add: The banjo is an African instrument.
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Gemini Cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:45 PM
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14. I hear that guy is bad to the bone and
when he drinks he drinks alone.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:35 PM
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9. well, he isn't the ONLY white man who can play the blues
but he probably is the WHITEST man who can play the blues. :7
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:44 PM
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13. I miss Roy Buchanan...
He was a white man who damn sure could play the blues!

R.I.P. Roy!







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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:46 PM
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15. Bert Wills can play blues.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:47 PM
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16. Duane Allman - R.I.P.
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:47 PM
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17. Johnny did it BEFORE SRV, but...
...like Johnny, Stevie also had the respect and admiration of "elders" like BB King, Albert King and Buddy Guy. That's really the test, whether or not a player is accepted into the community. Stevie WAS.

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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:49 PM
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18. Neither color nor race has anything to do with it.
Sick premise.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:53 PM
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20. AGREED! EVERYONE GETS THE BLUES!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:57 PM
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22. So true!
Elshiva. :loveya:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:37 PM
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39. Thanks!
:blush: :loveya:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:57 PM
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23. John Mayall
"The Turning Point" is one of the greatest blues records ever made..

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:02 AM
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25. A Hard Road
is his best, no doubt about it. The guitarist I wrote about just a minute ago plays on it

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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:07 AM
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26. That's a great one, too...
I love Mayall; he's really underappreciated today, at least in the US..
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:15 AM
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29. He is the man
I do like his earlier work the best though

I love to crank "I'm your witchdoctor" when I am driving---song puts me in a good mood.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-01-05 11:59 PM
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24. You obviously have never listened to Peter Green
Edited on Thu Jun-02-05 12:23 AM by Zuni

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Green_%28musician%29

Best blues guitarist of all time in my opinion, Peter Green is, and I am a die hard blues fan---everything from the Delta to London's East End. I don't say "best guitarist" lightly---everyone from Robert Johnson to T-Bone Walker to Buddy Guy to Jimi Hendrix to John Fogerty to Stevie Ray Vaughn has been evaluated in their blues/rock playing by me.

Wilipedia on Green's playing:
The great bluesman B.B. King once referred to Peter Green as "the only guitarist who ever made me sweat", and with good reason. His blues style is not as histrionic as that of other noted British blues guitarists of that time, like Jimmy Page, Eric Clapton and Jeff Beck, but is more profound, much nearer to what is commonly referred to among blues aficionados as "deep blues". If one listens to John Mayall's "Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton" and "A Hard Road" back to back, Clapton's playing is spectacular, white hot, and Green's, on the latter, is beautiful, understated, darkly bluesy. Peter Green got deeper into the spirit of the blues than any of his contemporaries, thus he has been called the "best white blues guitar player".



and I am sure you have never heard the black/white Chicago Blues playin maniacs-The Paul Butterfield Blues Band---Butterfield, who was white, was one of the sickest harp players ever----probably the best, really. Listen to his Harmonica on their cover of "Work Song" on their second album, East-West

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Butterfield

or Steve Cropper---the white country boy who wrote the book on funk and played on almost all of the great memphis soul records of the 1960s:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Cropper

I could go on and on :boring:

although this in no way takes away from the Black blues players:

these are two of the best: Howlin' Wolf and his excellent guitarist, Hubert Sumlin :thumbsup:

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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:13 AM
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28. Green is incredible...
I love Jeremy Spencer, too; before he got swallowed up by The Children Of God. Phil Keaggy, too; his stuff w/ Glass Harp is more rock than blues, but he's got the chops..
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:22 AM
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31. Jeremy Spencer can do the best impersonations
speaking of Mayall, have you ever heard his Mayall impersonation? I have it on a Fleetwood Mac disc where he goes through a medley of trashing other British blues guys---it is dead fucking on. :rofl:

He could do Elmore james better than any guy in the UK. But it is Green's intense guitar work, songwriting, harp playing and singing that I like the best. I especially like his "guitar duels" with the other guitarist in the early Mac, Danny Kirwan, on some songs.

Peter Green's '59 Les Paul is possibly the best sounding guitar I have ever heard. It's trademark tone was the result of Peter rigging it wrong and putting the pickups in upside down! It is still being used---Gary moore, another famous guitar player plays it to this day, still set up the way Green left it in 1970.

I have some of the new Green stuff with the splinter group---it is very tasteful. But Peter green's years of mental illness took their toll, and although he has recovered miraculously, his playing will never be the same.
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:26 AM
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33. Oh, that's incredible, isn't it?
Spencer had "it", you know? He really could have been one of the all-time greats, but I'm happy that he put out the stuff w/ Fleetwood Mac that he did.

I could talk about this stuff all night; I'll have to add some Mac and Mayall to the roation for my show..
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:27 AM
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35. how do i listen to your show?
sounds like you have good taste. :thumbsup:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:32 AM
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36. Ha! I even play The Louvin Brothers!
I'm not kiddiong, either;)

Click on my banner; then "Listen"..I play alot of DUer's songs as well..
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NoMoreMrNiceGuy Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:09 AM
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27. Listen to Johnny on "Third Degree"...incredible album..fingers fly.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:16 AM
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30. he's amazing! And he's VERY white. (LOL)
but "only"?

Nah.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:26 AM
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34. Of COURSE he's not the only one.
But this is the best music thread I've seen here in a long time....

:evilgrin:
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 12:36 AM
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37. Talkin' music is always jake w/ me...
You always end up finding musical soulmates in the most unlikely places, and that's one of the cool things about being on a board like this..
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-02-05 03:47 PM
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40. Johnny is great
Not a bad Dobro player either.

Ever hear of Joe Bonamassa? That cat can play.
http://www.jbonamassa.com/

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