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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:27 AM
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There are no original movies
Everything is derivative
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:28 AM
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1. Is there a "Genesis" movie?
If so, what is it?
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:31 AM
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2. It was probably on nitrate stock and is damaged or gone.
Or it be a zoetrope, lost in someone's attic.
But there are always great stories, and from those, many great films have been born.
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MikeDuffy Donating Member (309 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:32 AM
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3. Try some Ingmar Bergman movies
if you like thinking (really thinking!) about serious subjects. Maybe try "The Seventh Seal" for starters, if you've never seen it. He has written/directed dozens of such movies.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:12 AM
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13. Seventh Seal is a classic
Wild Strawberries is anothe Bergman classic.
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:33 AM
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4. There is a theory...
... that there are only five or so main plots.

But, I'm still trying to figure out where the hell "Eraserhead" fits into any of them. :)
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:34 AM
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5. even "Fletch Lives"?!
no way!
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katusha Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:34 AM
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6. ummm... "Being John Malkovich"
i don't doubt your statement, i just wanna know where this piece of genius is derived from.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:34 AM
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7. Actually,
it may have been the flip-book animations I used to make in the margins of my mom's Readers Digest Condensed Books. God, I tried to read them, they sucked, so I drew in them.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:34 AM
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8. I agree
There are only about 7 story plots ever invented by man, and Shakespeare thought of most, if not all of them.

Everything else is just contemporary window dressing, mixed with modern accentuations and fashions. That is fine with me. I'm a big movie fan!

B-)
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:35 AM
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9. Derivative of what????
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Kire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:13 AM
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14. so why aren't we watching what they are derivative of?
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:48 AM
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18. Well, if everything is derivative....
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 12:35 AM
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10. This is a great reason why I rarely got to the movies these days
Why should I pay 16 bucks for me and my wife to experience Deja Vu?
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revolve Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:04 AM
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11. Oh man, I should stop going to the movies too then
I mean the movies are exactly the same, and I should stop reading cause someone wrote something similar once before, and I should stop listening to music because it was built from something they heard from someone else, and I should stop listening to people talk because those words were said before. I must now go into my cave.
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cestpaspossible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:09 AM
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12. nt
Edited on Fri May-27-05 01:10 AM by cestpaspossible
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Jamison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:19 AM
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15. Well...
What about those highly entertaining Lifetime Original Movies?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:20 AM
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16. Yeah...
Edited on Fri May-27-05 01:21 AM by Spider Jerusalem
There's not much original ANYTHING, though...and it is possible for a filmmaker (or a painter, or a musician, etc) to combine pre-existing influences in a new way, to create something that's derivative AND original at the same time...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 01:44 AM
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17. A modest modifyer...
Many of the major motion pictures coming out today are derivative

Originality doesn't merit a lot of money

Shaggy Dog, The (2005)
Ice Age 2 (2006)
Basic Instinct 2: Risk Addiction (2006)
Poseidon Adventure, The (2006)
X-Men 3 (2006)
Little Thief, The (2006)
Carmen Sandiego (2006)
My Friend Flicka (2006)
Net 2.0, The (2006)
Curious George (2006)
The Producers: The Movie Musical (2005)
King Kong (2005)
Underworld: Evolution (2005)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005)
V for Vendetta (2005)
Legend of Zorro, The (2005)
Strangers with Candy (2005)
Doom (2005)
Fog, The (2005)
Return of the Living Dead 4: Necropolis (2005)
Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang (2005)
Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit (2005)
Oliver Twist (2005)
Pride and Prejudice (2005)
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children (2004)
Pooh's Heffalump Halloween Movie (2005)
Hellraiser: Hellworld (2005)
Prophecy: Forsaken, The (2005)
Transporter 2, The (2005)
Hood of the Living Dead (2005)
Pink Panther, The (2005)
Deuce Bigalow: European Gigolo (2005)
Ringers: Lord of the Fans (2005) (USA Film Festival)
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, The (2005)
xXx: State of the Union (2005)
House of Wax (2005) (Tribeca Film Festival)
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Melynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-27-05 05:29 AM
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19. Has a remake of a movie ever been better than the original?
Most of the time the original movie is better than the remake. One exception is "Cape Fear".
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