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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:58 AM
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Is this true?
Edited on Tue May-24-05 09:00 AM by Shell Beau
Tiles A and B are the same color.



Squares A and B are the same color, you have to open up a paint image and put the tiles side by side.
I'm not computer savy, so I wanted someone to test it out.
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 08:59 AM
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1. fish
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:00 AM
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2. Sorry, I forgot to add what to do.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:00 AM
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3. chips
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:01 AM
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4. It's true N/T
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:03 AM
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5. Did you test it out? I don't know how. I want to see them side by side.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:05 AM
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6. Side by side (well, overlapped)
Edited on Tue May-24-05 09:05 AM by teach1st
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:07 AM
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10. Thanks. That is screwy!
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kick-ass-bob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:05 AM
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7. I tested it. They are the same.
However, even now, I still don't believe it.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:07 AM
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8. Me either. I trust my eyes (well, most of the time)!
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:11 AM
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15. I haven't trusted my eyes since the late '60s N/T
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:07 AM
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9. It's true
I just roughly selected the 'B' square and moved it alongside the 'A' square. I added the drop shadow for no real reason.

You could also test it out with a color picker tool like this one: http://www.datastic.com/tools/colorcop

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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:08 AM
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11. According to "eyedropper"
which reads the pixel colors, they are both the same, coming out at a hex value of R 107, G 107 and B 107--both of them. How about that!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:08 AM
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12. It's true. I just tested it.
But, I still can't figure out HOW it is true.
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:27 AM
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20. It's your brain.
You know that tile A is dark colored, but well-lit; and you know that tile B is light-colored, but in shadow.

On the computer screen they both have a grey value of 107 (0 is black, 255 is white). But your brain helps out, and you perceive the light and dark tiles in their proper checkboard pattern.

Thank evolution that we evolved from binocular tree-dwellers with some predatory tendancies. :)
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:31 AM
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23. Ahh, ,but you are assuming I actually HAVE a brain.
Big assumption on your part. Ha. Ha.
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:08 AM
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13. They are
If you copy the image, paste into paint, select half and move it 'up', you get:

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Spacemom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:10 AM
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14. Weird
I had to test it for myself, but it's true.

It's way too early for mind-benders like this.
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teach1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:13 AM
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16. I think the explanation is that...
...our minds don't interpret absolute color values, but, instead, comparative color values. (Just a guess)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:14 AM
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17. Sounds good to me!
:shrug:
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aeolian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:28 AM
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22. Yep.
And more succinctly stated than what I said.

:toast:
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:16 AM
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18. The explanation for it is here
Why does the illusion work?

The visual system needs to determine the color of objects in the world. In this case the problem is to determine the gray shade of the checks on the floor. Just measuring the light coming from a surface (the luminance) is not enough: a cast shadow will dim a surface, so that a white surface in shadow may be reflecting less light than a black surface in full light. The visual system uses several tricks to determine where the shadows are and how to compensate for them, in order to determine the shade of gray "paint" that belongs to the surface.

The first trick is based on local contrast. In shadow or not, a check that is lighter than its neighboring checks is probably lighter than average, and vice versa. In the figure, the light check in shadow is surrounded by darker checks. Thus, even though the check is physically dark, it is light when compared to its neighbors. The dark checks outside the shadow, conversely, are surrounded by lighter checks, so they look dark by comparison.

A second trick is based on the fact that shadows often have soft edges, while paint boundaries (like the checks) often have sharp edges. The visual system tends to ignore gradual changes in light level, so that it can determine the color of the surfaces without being misled by shadows. In this figure, the shadow looks like a shadow, both because it is fuzzy and because the shadow casting object is visible.

The "paintness" of the checks is aided by the form of the "X-junctions" formed by 4 abutting checks. This type of junction is usually a signal that all the edges should be interpreted as changes in surface color rather than in terms of shadows or lighting.

As with many so-called illusions, this effect really demonstrates the success rather than the failure of the visual system. The visual system is not very good at being a physical light meter, but that is not its purpose. The important task is to break the image information down into meaningful components, and thereby perceive the nature of the objects in view.

http://web.mit.edu/persci/people/adelson/checkershadow_description.html
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:20 AM
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19. Oh okay!
That really makes no sense to me, but it sounds scientific.
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-05 09:28 AM
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21. If you ever get a chance
or you're bored... :-)

Read up sometime on all the visual processing that occurs inside your eyes before the signals get transmitted to your brain for even further processing. It's fascinating stuff and really underscores how very little of what we think we see is actually what we saw.
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