OK, fractured-penis people, I really wanna know...

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

Regarding this site

http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic3415.htm

linked on this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x3272666

What is this Middle Eastern practice of "manipulation to cause detumescence"?

[Aiptasia]

1. squeezing it

you never had an involuntary boner, have you?

or perhaps they mean masturbation, either way it does the job.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

4. No

Masturbation is listed separately.

I don't know WHAT situation I would be in if I didn't want an erection and yet was allowed to squeeze it.

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Smacking it with a leather bound Koran?

[sui generis]

11. careful you could just now be personally responsible for

numerous deaths in Afghanistan.

:popcorn:

I certainly don't mean to single out a particular religion to mock, but it's just a book. Was anyone's life really worth a second hand story about a bunch of paper? It's not a magical object, and as far as I know the idea of Islam isn't so much that it's written down on paper as that it's practiced by humans.

It is tragic all around, but I can't help but think there are some fundies who would do the same thing here if their bible was flushed down a dirtie birdie poop flusher by a dude wearing a turban.

god save me from your followers.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

12. Good thoughts

But who knows what they do with their winkies to make them soft?

[jobycom]

20. Actually, it's not just a book

The words of the Qur'an to a Muslim were dictated directly to Muhammad. They were written by Allah, not inspired by God and written by man, as the Bible is supposed to be. The words of the Qur'an are eternal, and have existed within Allah for all eternity, and are therefore part of Allah. In some interpretations of Muslim theology, since Allah is defined as having no parts, and no attributes, the Qur'an can be considered Allah--that's as complicated a theological issue as the Christian Trinity, though, and I don't know if any modern Muslim would accept that. It's a medieval idea.

But the point is, the Qur'an, which has to be read in the original Arabic--all translations are considered interpretations, not the actual Qur'an--is more than a book, and not just a sacred object. It is the literal, actual word of God. Not a symbol-- the real thing. There is no good equivalent in Christianity or in secular American culture. Maybe flushing the actual Declaration of Independence would start to approach it.

Or imagine finding the Ark of the Covenant and taking a crap in it. That starts to approach what the soldiers did.

There is also the toilet angle. Toilets and human waste to Muslims are more unclean than to us. So, take the holiest item in their universe, and put it in the most foul place imaginable.

I'm sure there are a lot, maybe even most, of Muslims who would agree with you--that it was just an ignorant act by a bunch of dumb savages, not worth a human life. But there are certainly enough who believe otherwise to cause riots.

Couple that with the complete horror the Middle East feels over what the rest of the world, America especially, has done to them, and this incident grows dramatically in proportion.

[sui generis]

23. As a pragmatic secular humanist

I find my tolerance of irrationality deeply challenged by literalist religionistas.

The biggest tragedy is the voluntary/involuntary loss of life for a bunch of paper with human symbols on it.

The problem with "word" of god is that it inevitably requires human translation, tainted by very subjective human intent. In fact, in the absence of a deity putting in an appearance and setting things straight, one might conclude that all religious fervor is the result of mankind's interpretation or intentions.

I have no attachment to symbols, so if someone crapped in the ark of the covenant they would just be another stupid monkey human committing a crime of vandalism, and while I would be unhappy about the historical loss of the constitution document, I would not become irrational over its loss, as the concepts of our constitution in practice are what really matter.

[jobycom]

25. Your a bad secular humanist, then

If you aren't concerned with what other humans believe.

I'm an atheist, I don't believe any of it, and even secular humanism sounds too much like a creed to me (for that matter, so does atheist, which is why I don't even use that label, usually). But my belief that humans and their beliefs should be respected means I care what others believe.

The bottom line is they weren't upset about a symbol, they were upset by a lack of regard for their rights that includes slaughtering them by the hundreds of thousands. Sometimes little thinks help frame the bigger issues. Our colonists got upset by a tea tax--surely that little bit of money wasn't worth a single life, either.

[sui generis]

28. a bit judgemental too I see

that's alright - I don't follow any creed either.

I disagree with you entirely on caring about other people's beliefs. I don't have to care - all I have to do is accept that other people have beliefs. I certainly don't have to respect the ideas behind them in the shelter of my own mind, however I wouldn't go out of my way to try to offend someone. You confuse "respect" with the intent of the word "tolerance" or "acceptance", both of which I readily and willingly do.

I draw the line at irrationality that extends from someone else's belief system into my personal life. Period. I believe in helping people regardless of their creed or lack of creed, and I believe in working toward the common good, but I also believe I should be able to live my personal life free from irrationality or its influences to the greatest extant possible.

I think your last paragraph is a mischaracterization and a stretch. There are certainly violent fundamentalists in this world who would not hesitate to sacrifice themselves or others for very literalist interpretations of their version of god, and that is by no means limited to Islam.

[Hugin]

3. I'm thinking they show the victim a picture of...

Ann Coulter.

Instant flaccidity.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

5. And... fracture!!

I will henceforth avoid pictures of her... As if I didn't already!

[Hugin]

8. You know on those "Erectile Dysfunction" ads...

Where they say... "After 4 hours, call a doctor."?

They use Coulter Therapy in those cases as well.

[TreasonousBastard]

13. After four hours...

I'd call a press conference.

[Hugin]

16. LOL!

Wonderful!

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18. I can think of a few people I'd call nt

[Zenlitened]

6. "Fractured-penis people"!!!

:rofl:

Now THAT is one scary clique!

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9. LOL I think we should form it

Though, when you think about it, the cliques at Free Republic are much more likely to fracture their penises over the course of an average day of sticking their erections into heavy machinery.

[Zenlitened]

14. Well, for chromosomal reasons, I won't be able to join you.

But, hey! We're a big tent! I support you in your, er, um... fracturing.

:D

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17. Please don't

support me in my fracturing. Not saying the lead-up wouldn't be nice.

[Zenlitened]

19. Hahahahahaha!

Zing. :rofl:

[underpants]

7. The Penis Splint

http://sciteclibrary.ru/eng/catalog/pages/2820.html

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10. This needs further explanation

I am not so mechanically inclined.

[TreasonousBastard]

15. Seriously, any nurses here...

because I have heard that nurses have a way of tweaking it when they have to work on patients.

I imagine that tweak is along the lines of what they're talking about.

(I will not discuss certain personal experimentation with known techniques. The results were not as expected, although thankfully not injurious.)

[TXlib]

21. OWWWWWWW! OWW OWW OWWWWWWWW!

CRINGE CRINGE CRINGE

[jobycom]

22. Can you imagine writing such an article with a straight face?

I think my favorite phrase was "sanguinous engorgement."

I can just see a doctor writing this with a bunch of his colleagues at a cocktail party. "Need a fancy phrase for "hard on..." (drains a couple of shots) "ah, yes... Sanguinous engorgement." (Watches colleagues snort beer through their noses). "Oh you think that's funny? Let me read you the section about sex on a desk!" (watches stronger colleagues grab their crotches in horror and weaker colleagues double in pain...)

Or better, have the woman write it. The right kind of woman might find it amusing.

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

24. LOL

And my girlfriend's still asleep so it all came out my nose, like the beer, because I was trying to be quiet.

Which made me laugh more.

On the topic of medical humor... A friend of mine was a nurse in Laguna Beach in the early nineties. Some members of the gay community there had taken to inserting light bulbs in their rectums, resulting in horrific trauma. There was such a spate of these cases that nurses were overheard by one of the patients joking about another one on a different floor! He thought they were talking about him, threatened to sue, and a stern memo went around that no more joking about people with light bulbs exploding in their asses would be tolerated.

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[maveric]

27. I have to quit slamming it in the silverware drawer I guess?

Kind of takes the fun out of life...