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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:21 PM
Original message
There are no excuses for intentional assholism in the Lounge
Maybe I ought to change my "live and let live" policy and start speaking up about it more often.

Liazrds should know mo betta.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:22 PM
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1. Assholism from ANYONE, right?
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:23 PM
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4. and no matter what age too right?
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:25 PM
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10. From ANYBODY
I've been cutting people around here a lotta slack.

I always take my flamefests to Yahoo, where the fuckers most richly deserve it.

If I get nasty in here, I could find myself getting booted.

I'll point out unnecessary assholism in a nice way.

Getting me pissed off is bad all around.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:26 PM
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11. Uh-oh.
:scared:

But I haven't done anything!!!!!

:D

:loveya:

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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
46. yes, including coloradians, no matter the age.
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #46
48. no kidding
Edited on Thu May-12-05 07:25 PM by JohnKleeb
some people, my god need to learn how to respect people no matter what the age.
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Or body type!
:hide:
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #51
52. shut it, fatty :D
Edited on Thu May-12-05 07:28 PM by redsoxliberal
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:30 PM
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53. kiss my ass youngin
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:36 PM
Response to Reply #53
57. where's your under 18 ID?
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:34 PM
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54. Suck it, Buttmunch!
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redsoxliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:35 PM
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55. STOP I'm such an easy target!!!!!
LOLZ
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YellowRubberDuckie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:38 PM
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59. LMAO!!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #54
67. "buttmunch"
Ahhhh, suddenly I miss my kids...............
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:22 PM
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2. I totally concur.
The Lounge should be for lovin'. :D
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:22 PM
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3. Oh MrScorpio would be down with that for sure.
:D
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:24 PM
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7. Well the guy does have Barry White in his sig.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:24 PM
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5. I re-read the DU rules, section 2.
Edited on Thu May-12-05 06:26 PM by HypnoToad
I've been too kind in the past, and even when I alert posts I don't always see a response made to them. Even when I was PERSONALLY ATTAKED and STALKED.

Kind as in not reporting abusers of section 2...

I'll be vocal from now on, definitely.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:24 PM
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6. what are assholes like me supposed to do?
I'm appalled at this kind of intolerance.

I think the Lounge without assholes would be more like a, well, a parlor or something.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:31 PM
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20. Don't you fret, left
From one Leftie to another, I can assure you that I am currently viewing a marvelous sampling of asshole behavior.

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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:38 PM
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29. I've been taking notes myself
I want to learn how to be a better asshole, apparently I haven't been going about it correctly. ;-)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-13-05 12:00 AM
Response to Reply #29
73. it's an art
not a science
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #20
31. well, good
Edited on Thu May-12-05 06:41 PM by leftofthedial
I think

is the practice of assholism assholistic?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:36 PM
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56. I have to be sympathic with your situation as a member
of an oppressed minority.

And you wouldn't want the Lounge to be turned into a parlor, believe me. I grew up in northern Vermont, and the "Pahlah" in the old people's houses there was a frightening room full of furniture with itchy horsehair-filled cushions, and dusty from lack of use...you had to be on your best behavior there.

Redstone
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #56
62. Where I come from,
parlors were reserved for the dead. That's where the wakes took place when a family member died. Some of the houses had front windows that came out, the more easily to get the coffin out on funeral day.

Come to think of it ......................
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Ekirh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:24 PM
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8. Gosh
I stop paying attention for a few days, and apparently The Lounge hits Jackassity levels :(. Don't want to be filled in and don't need to be filled in. I've read a few posts and such. However, my Commie Dog will severely punish any trouble makers for now on. Please don't piss him off, he isn't cute when he's angry Lizards :(. You want him to stay cute don't you?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:25 PM
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9. Threadjacking assholery excepted right?
;)
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:26 PM
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12. Yeesh, YOU are who he's talking about!
Edited on Thu May-12-05 06:27 PM by Bouncy Ball
Quick, get out of this thread!

:D

Hey I'm hungry, drive up here and bring me a salad and some TastyKakes, ok?

NOW! What's taking you so long? Ranch dressing, please. On the side.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:28 PM
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13. I didn't get any tastykakes in Boston.
x(

I was lied to, bamboozled! I didn't land on Plymouth Rock, Plymouth Rock landed on me...ok, that was excessive.

I don't even have any greens. I need to go shopping. Bad.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:29 PM
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14. No go buy me one somewhere and drive it up here.
Or better yet, buy it closer to here so that it's fresher.

NOW!!



Heh, it's fun to boss people around. What's for dinner at GOPisEvil's house?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:30 PM
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18. I had tuna salad sammiches on whole wheat toast.
:9
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:30 PM
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19. YOU ALREADY ATE???
Edited on Thu May-12-05 06:31 PM by Bouncy Ball
And HERE I AM STARVING???

Have you no SOUL?

See, this is the kind of assholery MrScorpio is talking about!

:cry:

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:32 PM
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21. I always eat early at home.
:shrug:

Don't you have a husband you can boss around? Or better yet, make that kid pull her weight. You work hard, dammit, you should be served.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:35 PM
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25. HAH!
The husband just called me and gave me a short list of things to go get at the store.

Ppppffffffttt. He thinks I'll do it just because he drove 40 minutes each way to change my tire last night.

Hmm, on second thought, better go to the store.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:37 PM
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28. Yeah...maybe tonight is a good night to be nice to him.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:14 PM
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38. Ok I'm back, had to feed my family and stuff like that.
I had a green salad and a California Pizza Kitchen Pizza--thin crust, Margherita style! YUM!

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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #38
44. Bad liberal! CPK is a "red" company!
1000 lashes with a basil leaf!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:20 PM
Response to Reply #44
45. NO.

NO!!!!!!!!!!



PLEASE don't tell me that.

Dammit. Well, if it's true I'll find another brand of frozen pizza. It's just that that was the only one I really liked!

:cry:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:23 PM
Response to Reply #45
47. CPK frozen foods is owned by Altria. 100% Republican.
DiGiorno is owned by Altria as well.

Sigh...
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #47
49. Well (cover your ears)
fuckity fuck fuck.

Maybe I should have said cover your eyes.

Shit.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:27 PM
Response to Reply #49
50. Sorry.
I hate to be the one to burst bubbles. :(
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:37 PM
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58. Just for that, bring me a cheesecake!
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:29 PM
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15. I'm so sad.
I love this place... I know people do stuff wrong... CO Liberal and The Princess were called on their shit... others have been called on theirs...

I'm just so sad right now... because I like people on both sides... and because I just saw Skinner huffed at for using the term 'faggy'... I wanted to try to offer my interpretation of that... but the thread's locked now... and it seems he did it in his last post... but all this misunderstanding... all the fingerpointing... and in the face of some of the things that have been done (pics of WHALES, for God's sake!)... that have been left alone... and not defended, but called out by anyone... God... and then the justifications... how hard is it, really, to take responsibility for your words and actions, as one of my favorite DUers said recently?

Sorry... rambling... I'm about to leave, anyway... apologies if I offended anyone...
:(
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:51 PM
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34. ....
assholism I can deal with... everyone has one & occasionally is one...

malicious assholism, is a different story...

that pic today was cruel... i saw it before it got nuked :(
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:03 PM
Response to Reply #15
63. I really never saw the whale pic thing
If I had, I would have understood his thread. That's just plain old cruel.

Now...on the "faggy" thing..you've GOTTA please realize that in one breath Skinner is talking about alienation and in the other breathe he used the very lingo that GOT people alienated. He knew it was a mistake and fixed it but the point is..a whale is a whale and a fairy is a fairy..they are indistinguishable when talking about hurtful pasts and the things that scar.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:29 PM
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16. I'm so confused
There are different cultures and subcultures existing under the rubric of democraticunderground.com?

There seems to be so much talk today of people being nasty and people saying untoward things to others and attitude and then I remember that there's an "ignore" feature that really ought to work well, since everything else on this site seems to work well.

All this business of people having their feelings hurt on a message board really confuses me. Perhaps I'm not taking it seriously enough?

Perhaps some are taking it too seriously?

Perhaps some are taking things personally when this is nothing but a message board?

There's free speech and there's manipulation. No such thing as absolutes in either of those concepts, but no one is ever forced to read anything posted here. Are they?

Now, maybe someone can tell me - do they have things like matching t-shirts or jackets or beanies for each subgroup? Because that would be a hell of a way to raise money to start that liberal cable TV station, I think.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #16
22. Perhaps folks need to be a little more considerate of others' feelings
There are just some things that need to be translated to an online message board, despite the urge to do otherwise.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:44 PM
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32. Nah fuck it...
let's all just bust out with all the racist, sexist, whateverist jokes.

If they can't take it, it's their own fucking problem.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #32
35. Actually,
without intending to (I think), you just made a joke about the state of the Democrats today.

A marvelous metaphor for the paralyzed incompetence of the Party, that's what's going on here.


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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #22
39. Since posting and reading here is voluntary,
I should think that people would have the intelligence and wherewithal to ignore posts that offend them, and successfully employ the "ignore" feature.

It's kind of hard to feel bad for someone who runs headfirst into a raging inferno, just for the hell of it.

Besides, it's hard to know what's asshole and what isn't. Sort of like Potter Stewart and his summation of porn.
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #16
24. They have jackets.
Mine has a dragon on the back!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:11 PM
Response to Reply #24
36. The whole dragon?
Or just the ............... well, you know..............
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #16
60. I think, OldLeftie, that the issue is on the one hand
people being deliberately mean to to other people, which is rude even given that it's just a message board, and on the other hand, people being so annoying that they're pretty much begging for people to be mean to them, if you understand that, and I bet this really clarifies the issue for you because I'm so good at getting right to the heart of matters...yes?

Redstone
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:57 PM
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61. Issues, issues
When my kids got into that mode, they got put into separate rooms until they calmed down and then I fed them Pudding Pops and Kool-Aid until they passed out in a sugar coma. After that, they were pretty easy to handle.

Seriously, the dynamic you describe is part of the human condition. No amount of rulemaking or preaching has ever been able to change it - witness the anger of Al Qaeda because people just won't behave and believe properly - and nothing ever will.

Sure, good manners should prevail, and, from what I've seen, in the vast majority of the gazillions of posts here, they do. I'm astonished at the amount of energy, time, and space devoted to what appears to have been an unusual set of incidents (all of which, I am certain, have been deleted).

As I've written, this whole situation seems to me to be an able metaphor for the condition of the Democrats today - they seem to be so intent on making sure that everyone is comfortable and not offended and perhaps even properly tucked in that they're not aware that the Other Party is handing them their (and our) collective asses.

There comes a point where the only thing a parent can say to a kid who comes running into the house once again, crying and wailing again that someone is being mean to him, is "Get out there and handle it yourself."

Then you watch from the window to make sure your kid is safe. But, your kid learns a valuable lesson, even if it's to make sure to avoid that someone in the future. Teaching the kid to suck it up and continue on is the hardest part of the parenting job, or so it seems at the time.

One thing I have noticed here, though, is that some people, when they're called on their bad behavior, immediately start recounting their own personal psychiatric histories - depression, suicide attempts, other acting out - as if that somehow gives them license to behave badly.

That's something I find deeply unsettling.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:16 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. Great post
and where on earth did you find that cat? That's a scream!
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. Why, thank you
Isn't that beer-drinking cat just hilarious? Something about it breaks me up every time I see it.

A friend of mine comes up with these, just to make me laugh. Here are a few of his little gif(ts):







Goofy, yes?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 08:33 PM
Response to Reply #61
65. "deeply unsettling," but, as you say, the human condition.
These things happen, and will continue to do so.

However, as you also said (paraphrasing here), the good guys still outnumber the sons of bitches, even if it does seem that the sons of bitches are catching up.

We're OK in the long run.

Redstone
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 10:58 PM
Response to Reply #61
69. all of which is neither here nor there
The bottom line is that a number of people truly disgraced themselves today, and rightly got called on it. It's got fuck-all to do with thin-skinnedness, or with whiny children needing to learn to stand up for themselves, or with the future of the Democratic Party.

The behavior that we witnessed just now wasn't merely annoying, or whiny, or tiresome, or provocative: it was vile. There's not even the ghost of a justification for it. You really just don't get to bargain this down to 'faults on both sides'.

Shame on the guilty. Period.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:17 PM
Response to Reply #69
70. No, and here's why
No one is forced to read anything anyone posts. Everything that goes on here is voluntary, and if I see something disgusting posted, I'll pass, thank you very much.

Granted, people who post vile stuff are vile cowards, yes. But, people who put themselves in the middle of that stuff are simply going to the hazard, something that's voluntary on their part, albeit not very wise.

You can discount all that I wrote, but you'll be missing the bigger picture, the name of which is "Grow Up." The world doesn't always toss softballs, people are not always kind, and the smart adult knows how to navigate around and away from dangerous and destructive people.

Shame on everybody involved.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:30 PM
Response to Original message
17. Any kind of Assholisity is not welcome
"Our creator has a Master Plan. Peace and happiness all throughout the land"

If you can't agree with Pharoah Sanders, we have some issues to deal with.
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iconoclastic cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:34 PM
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23. Hi, I'm Iconoclastic Cat, and I'm an assoholic.
I am addicted to assohol.

:evilgrin:
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #23
26. This made me laugh.
Is the cat addicted too?
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:17 PM
Response to Reply #23
42. Hello, iconoclastic cat. n/t
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:36 PM
Response to Original message
27. What about international assholism from us Canucks
Is that OK. Cause sometimes, I just gotta get the mean out.
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Jara sang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:40 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. You guys are assholes for calling us guys assholes.
But Americans are assholes, so... er... where were we? Ahhhh for get it. How is the weather in yvrland?:P
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #30
33. They promised sun this afternoon
It's almost 5 and I'm still waiting. At least it isn't raining.
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:13 PM
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37. You know I luv ya more than Barry White, but...
Edited on Thu May-12-05 07:13 PM by VelmaD
I'm reserving the right to be an asshole to matcom. :crazy:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:15 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. Try to keep it private
Others may not understand
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:18 PM
Response to Reply #41
43. Oh, I figure if they've met matcom...
they'll understand. ;)
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 07:14 PM
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40. right you are!
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 10:10 PM
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68. My name is Bill W., and I'm an assoholic n/t
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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:31 PM
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71. Um, inadvertent assholery's still cool, right?
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 11:36 PM
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72. Agree. I also think GD needs less intentional assholism.
We should be able to make our points without resorting to ad hominem attacks. That's been on my mind a lot lately. I avoid some threads like the plague. We should know better.
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