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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:08 AM
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How many of you live in a smallish town/city in which Walmart is...
the only retailer of many of the items you need?

In my town, there's a Kroger, a couple of Dollar Generals, a Lowes, and a Walmart Supercenter. The nearest large city, which would offer more alternatives to Walmart, is over 80 miles away.

If you need ink cartridges, there's nowhere to go but Walmart. If you need a toaster oven, there's nowhere but Walmart. If you need a CD, there's nowhere but Walmart. If you need a new TV, there's nowhere but Walmart.

How can you avoid shopping at Walmart when that's the only big retailer in your town?
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:15 AM
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1. my nearest Walmart is about three hours drive....
Damn, I like it that way!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:19 AM
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3. Jeez, when did you move to Jupiter?
BTW, Wal*Mart is opening a Sam's Club on Phobos.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:35 AM
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5. 'struth-- the closest Walmarts are in Redding CA...,
...and in Ukiah CA, both of which are at least three hours distant. We actually had a local referendum a few years ago about "admitting" Walmart by awarding them a zoning variance to build a big box on a waterfront lot and the majority rejected them.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:52 AM
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11. Well..
what about Deimos? I'm jealous!

/stomps foot.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:18 AM
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2. Thankfully even in my town we have a number of choices.
Super Target, KMart, Shopko, Sears, Fleet Farm, Menard's and several Dollar Generals. It's the Costcos that are a distance away, both at least a 2 hours drive north or south.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:22 AM
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4. similar situation here
rural New Mexico...

I am never happy about going there, but sometimes there is no alternative for certain items. x(
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:46 AM
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6. I cannot believe that
What kind of CD? Data CDs are available at Radio Shack or Computer Stores. Every little town probably has a music store, at least some do, plus I got most of my CDs from Columbia House, and for much less than Wal-mart prices.
Also, who really "needs" a CD? You "want" a CD. You "need" oxygen, water, and love.
I think there are always alternatives. Even if you live in the middle of nowhere, you can drive that 80 miles once a month if you want to avoid Wal-mart badly enough.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:49 AM
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7. You sound like someone
who hasn't lived in a very small town. There are many in that situation. That's how Wal-Mart got so large. They opened stores in small towns that weren't being served by other retailers who focused on larger towns and cities.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:58 AM
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14. When my ink cartridge runs out, and i have work...
due the next day, I have to go to Walmart to get the ink cartridge.

And, please, don't lecture me on "needs" vs "wants." You may be fortunate to have a music store in your home town. I don't. FYI, I support Democratic musicians by purchasing their music at Walmart.

How big is the town in which you live? The town I live in has a pop of about 10,000.

If I drive 80 miles just to make a moralistic statement against Walmart, though, am I not at the same time enriching the pockets of the gluttonous oil barons?
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:06 AM
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18. My Kroger sells ink cartridges, does yours? It's probably a few
cents more, but absolutely worth it.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:11 AM
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21. No. It doesn't.
It's a very small Kroger. It has a deli and meat market, but that's it. You can buy pencils, pens, notebooks, etc, but that's about it.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:16 AM
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22. I lived in Richland Center, Wisconsin
population 5,014. It had a music shop and an office supply store where a person could get ink cartridges.
I admit that not every town will have those businesses, but Columbia Music House is available to all, and so is Amazon or Barnes and Noble.com. These days you could probably even get ink cartridges thru the internet, although the "next day" squeeze is going to be a problem there.
I thought I was making a mild joke about "needs vs. wants" although abuse of the word "need" is a pet peeve of mine. My peevishness may have overwhelmed my attempt at clowning. Maybe I NEED to lighten up.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:22 AM
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25. www.OvernightInkJets.com (ask & you shall receive)
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JohnnyRingo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:51 AM
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8. Eventualy...No one is left to compete with WalMart
It's their business model.
The longer they stay in an area, the more retailers close or move away. Capitalisms worst nightmare.

Slash and burn marketing.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:52 AM
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9. Order stuff on the Internet - I do, and it's convenient.
I am continually amazed at how many things I have begun to buy straight from the 'net, including ALL those things you just mentioned. Not to mention, if you buy from out-of-state retailers, you don't pay sales tax (makes up for shipping cost). Everything I bought on the internet was also 100% returnable.

Happy 'net shopping!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:00 AM
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15. The sales tax I pay at Walmart supports my local economy...
public schools, hospital, etc.

I do make frequent purchase on the internet. However, sometimes I can't wait a week for certain items to be shipped.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:04 AM
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17. That would be unusual.
Most small towns only charge the state sales tax, not a local sales tax that goes to the community. Its even more rare for a local sales tax to go to the school system, usually that's the property taxes. Your town is an interesting exception if your sales taxes are spent that way.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:09 AM
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19. Correction noted.
I do have no problem with paying sales tax, though. I live in a very poor state.
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:11 AM
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20. Me neither, just trying to offset concerns re: shipping costs. -eom
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:50 AM
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26. Kansas has added a line to their state income tax form
It required you to add sales tax from items you buy on the internet. I think other states are doing that as well. That method seems kinda clumsy. It would be easier to put a national 5% sales tax on internet sales and divide that revenue among the states based on population.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 04:13 AM
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28. We have both state and local taxes on our purchases.
The biggest tax is if you stay in a motel but nearly everything is taxed in my town (population: 15,000).
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:52 AM
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10. When possible, buy online.
If your state has a sales tax you will save money that way as well. You'll get better quality products at a cheaper price than what you can get at Walmart. That way, at least you will only have to shop at Walmart for emergencies like when your toilet overflows and you need a plunger or something like that.
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:54 AM
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12. Another benefit:
it just seems like many online companies are more likely to contribute to the good guys in Washington.

I could be wrong though, but then again, anything online is probably better than Wal-Mart when we're talking strictly in those terms..
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 12:56 AM
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13. Sundays ...Walmart is the church
of my town... EVERYONE IS THERE...needless to say I don't contribute to the church.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:01 AM
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16. I do not go to Walmart to socialize.
When I go, I usually go at 5AM, when no one's there. In and out as quickly as possible.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:16 AM
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23. is there a Kmart
nearby? That's where I go....
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 01:20 AM
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24. No.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 02:26 AM
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27. I may be moving to a place like that
Except that it's not a whole lot farther away (an hour vs 45 mins) to go to the slightly larger town that has a few more options, including a Costco and a Raley's (a store with a decent health food selection for a chain grocery.)

I have no idea how I'd adjust to that, I've spent my whole life in this decent sized city, and I've never lacked for shopping options.

Honestly, we'll continue to avoid Walmart as much as possible, but in real small towns sometimes they're unavoidable. For example, I sew and I don't think there's an independent fabric store in the area we're looking at moving to. I can mail order most of the things I want, but if I need a zipper or I run out of black thread and LeftyKid's Halloween costume is only half done, I'll suck it up and go to Walmart if there isn't a Joann or some family-run fabric shop within a reasonable distance.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 04:16 AM
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29. I have a very small selection of where I can go.
Walmart is my choice. I was flamed a couple of months ago about going to Walmart. I have no choice sometimes. I would have to drive over an hour to go somewhere else.
Besides, my daughter's insurance (which her father is currently covering by court order) will only allow me to use Walmart for prescriptions. So I have to go at least once a month for her medications. There is no other option for me. And I was flamed for that too.
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