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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:49 AM
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2 days until Star Trek officiallygets laid to rest for a while at least.
Your thoughts. Did Berman and Braga go to the well too much? Did they make too many shows that were not up to par?
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:53 AM
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1. I'd put this last season up against any Trek
With Manny Coto at the helm, the series *rocked* this season. I think it's a stinking shame that they took it off just when it hit its stride.

It's time to retire Berman and Braga, not Trek.
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kedrys Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 09:57 AM
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2. I second
We have the entire fourth season on DVR, and it's incredibly good. Lots of interesting under-the-radar political commentary sneaked into great stories, I thought. I'm totally wrecked over the cancellation. :cry:
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:16 AM
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6. agreed terrific season
I didn't get a chance to see them all but the "Mirror" take-off was hilarious, just like old times of TOS with all the fun and over-the-top acting. Terrific twist at the end too.

Two thumbs up from me!

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:06 AM
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3. Too bad
they need to give series longer.

Remember when the season started the same time as school and the new cars coming out (September) and went all the way to June? And the only interuption in the seasonal stride was Thanksgiving-Christmas and maybe around Easter?. Sheesh-now it's New season starts October, show 3 new shows, then 2 reruns. Now it's Thanksgivng, so it's a month of 'Special' programming, slip a new epi in during that madness, rerun the first 3, then throw a couple of new ones at ya, then a week of rerun, following by 3 new ones, 3 reruns a preemption and finally the season closer. All BTW which have gotten shorter, due to increases in the number of ads. It is teh suck. And they wonder why they lose viewers. "I forgot about your fucking show, man!"
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:49 AM
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4. That's UPN for you.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:22 AM
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8. It's also ABC (Lost), NBC (choose any from the Law & Order menu)
and CBS (the CSI family of shows) I'm sure there are others...
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:27 PM
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11. You forgot the worst injustice of all - moving it to Friday night.
Sure, most of us have VCRs and/or the digital recording system of choice, but if you forget it's on Friday in the first place, it doesn't get programmed in.

Network execs know damn well that shows often die when they change timeslots. UPN targeted the show for execution, and that's lame. I'm not going to claim it was the best Star Trek ever or that it couldn't use some work. But really, what does UPN have that's any better? Come to think of it, "Voyager" and "Enterprise" are the only UPN shows I've ever really watched more than once.

The real irony here is that Paramount first attempted to launch a TV network in 1977, and that their main selling point for the network was a new Star Trek series - which at that time would have featured the original cast. Even though the push for the network ultimately failed, the cast was interested, and that led to the Star Trek movies. Which led to TNG. Which led to DS9. Which led to Paramount making a shitload of money off the franchise and finally launching their network. Using "Voyager" as their flagship show.

Paramount has lived well off of Gene Roddenberry's ideas and Spock's pointed ears for their entire existence (they bought the company from Lucy & Desi in 1967). We will see how well they do without Trek paying the bills.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 10:54 AM
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5. That is the first time I have ever seen
"Star Trek" and "gets laid" in the same sentence.

:evilgrin:
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:18 AM
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7. you must have missed the pleasure planet episode
..in the first season. Hilarious. The guys go out to get laid but only the girl succeeds, heh heh.

The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:39 AM
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9. About time too.
They buried the klingons, the romulans, the federation, the borg... I tired of bermantrek when DS9 started copying TNG scripts... and that was even before Voyager graced our screens.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 11:56 AM
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10. I love DS9. I never felt that they copied TNG.
I don't care much for Voyager.
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BigMcLargehuge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-11-05 12:40 PM
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12. set phasers to "thank god"
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SnowGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-12-05 09:26 AM
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13. Awwww come on!
My wife and I have been watching the first season of TNG on DVD the past few weeks. While there are some bright spots, there are not many, and they're not very bright. And this is the show that most trek fans regard most highly (I think this is a fair assessment).

Even Picard is played poorly in this season - and that's saying a lot!

I don't think Ent got a fair shot, and I blame UPN as much as B&B.
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