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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:18 PM
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Cream
played last week at Royal Albert Hall. Jimmy Page was in attendance. There is a recording floating around the internet. I have heard 3 songs and it is truly wonderful. I saw them at MSG in'68. Most interesting piece on Music I have heard in awhile. Clapton's leads were inspirational
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:23 PM
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1. If you find a link, please post. I used to love Cream!
Oh, and welcome to DU!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:40 PM
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2. Bunch of boring old farts.
Now SWERVEDRIVER! There's a BAND!

FSC

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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:45 PM
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3. yeah yeah yeah
I was glad I grew up in the sixties and got to see all the legendary bands.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:47 PM
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4. From a boring old fart
Cream was a helluva band and it would be cool to see them. But as I said, I'm a boring old fart too.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:47 PM
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5. Clapton? Leads? Inspirational?
Edited on Tue May-10-05 02:47 PM by XNASA
I'll admit that the best chance that EC has of playing an inspirational lead is by rehashing something he did 35 years ago.

God knows it was all downhill from that point.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:53 PM
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7. Layla
really sucked. Worst album ever. People are so harsh. Sometimes just enjoy
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:02 PM
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8. Duane Allman.
Duane played most of the leads from Layla that people recognize.

EC is, and has always been, a better than average blues mimic.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:05 PM
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11. I saw Duane
4 times including the final weekend at the Fillmore East. I also saw the next to last concert Duane ever played at Stonybrook. It is now released on the Hittin the Note website. Listen before you criticize. I saw them all.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:15 PM
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16. You lost me.
:shrug:
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:19 PM
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19. Even though
Duane played on Layla it is still Clapton's album. I was and am a big Duane fan. I was trying to say I am very familiar with Duane and saw him many times.
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XNASA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:31 PM
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35. Clapton wrote 1 song by himself on 'Layla'.
And it wasn't the title track.

So I'm not sure how "Layla" qualifies as being 'his' album. From all the stories I've read about the sessions, Clapton spent most of the time nodding off while Tom Dowd and company kept things going by bringing in people like Duane Allman.

And for all the brilliance that EC attained during Cream and parts of 'Layla', it's more than been offset by his work on 'Pilgrim' and 'From the Cradle'.

EC is a very devisive talent. Especially among guitarists. Seems like most people either love him, or else they don't care for him much.

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:27 PM
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27. Dunno About That
Duane plays no lead at all on Key To The Highway. He wasn't even there and most Layla fans have that song in their top 5. The solo on Little Wing (the first one) is Eric too! That solo is every bit as good a Duane's. Also, the solo on Let It Rain (i know, a different album) is a classic. It's a song within a song. Lots of the best rock solos ever were just that, weren't they.

I admit i don't get the anti-Clapton sentiment. I think he did some terrific work in melding the edge of rock to the flow of blues. I know it's all taste, but i just can't understand how anybody can say he sucks. Might not be their cup of tea, but i sure don't think he sucks, technically, musically, or tonally.
The Professor
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:42 PM
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39. Little Wing
is a great version. I think better than Hendrix's. Layla is just a flatout great album
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 02:48 PM
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6. not much of a clapton fan myself
:shrug:
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:04 PM
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10. Clapton's early work and the stuff he has done in the last few years
is exceptional.

His work with John Mayall and Cream is unbelievable. But his replacement in Mayall's band, Peter Green (who later started the band Fleetwood Mac as a blues band) is without a doubt one of the finest guitarists who ever picked up a guitar, and possibly the Greatest white man ever to play the blues.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:06 PM
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12. There
is a rerelesed Fleetwod Mac CD live with Peter Green that is great
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:09 PM
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15. I have a bunch of them
I just got the re-release of John Mayall and the Bluesbreakers album "A hard Road" featuring Peter Green, along with a second disk of unreleased tracks, singles and other recordings. It is WELL worth the price. I would tell any blues/rock/guitar fan to get a copy.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:16 PM
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17. The sixties
were the height of rock. It was an inspirational time with the bands having control of the genre vs. the record producers. This was truly an underground movement. Rock was but 10 years old and things were being done for the first time. Once the seventies came on(1973) the music and inspiration was gone and the producers took over and they started producing "hits" like the late fifties and early sixties(Beach Boys and Dion and the Belmonts).
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:02 PM
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9. Cream was the best and most innovative rock group, ever, bar none
Edited on Tue May-10-05 03:04 PM by kwassa
The live recording of "Crossroads" still stands up as the best live rock recording ever, IMHO.

This was Clapton's artistic zenith, and I was sadly disappointed with his subsequent career, and wouldn't listen to him for many years. He finally won me over with later blues things.

"Disraeli Gears" was recorded in two days at the end of a tour and is a great, classic album.

They really brought improvisation, great technical skills instrumentally, and experimentation into the rock genre, making it much more musically ambitious.

The concept of "guitar god" came from Cream, and Eric's prowess in the band.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:07 PM
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13. actually, the first guitar hero
is little remembered today. Mike Bloomfield, one of the guitarists in Paul Butterfield Blues band was a huge hit in the mid 60s. It is hard to find a more amazing guitarist. His solos are wilder than Jimi Hendrix's. He also played guitar for Bob Dylan when he went electric at Newport in 1964, and played Lead Guitar on the Highway 61 album. He is also well know for his "Super Session" album, recorded with Al kooper and Stephen Stills. It is bad ass.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:17 PM
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18. Bloomfield
was great as was The Paul Butterfield band. Season of the Witch
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:23 PM
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24. Before that
Bloomfield only played on the 1st 2 albums---self titled and East-West
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:20 PM
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20. I have an Eddie Cochran recording that can put either to shame
it is a French record that includes outtakes of Eddie jamming in the studio around 1960???? Absolutely stunning electric blues.

No one beats Cream for impact and influence, possibly rivaled by Hendrix.

And yes, I know all about Mike Bloomfield. The first blues record I ever had was "East-West" by the Butterfield Blues Band, and I've seen the '64 Newport film.

I almost drove off the road last week when I heard it on the radio,

"I've a mind to give up living, and go shopping instead ....."

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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:21 PM
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21. I also
have a copy of East West on vinyl. What else.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:22 PM
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23. Electric Flag
Another hot band. I also have that album
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:31 PM
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34. I liked "Killing Floor"
though I love Howling Wolf's version, too.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:51 PM
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40. you can't beat Wolf's booming vocals
and Wolf also had one of my all time favorite guitar players in his band, Hubert Sumlin
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:25 PM
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25. Their take on Cannonball Adderly's ' Work Song'
from east-West, is one of the finest recordings I have ever heard
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:28 PM
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30. Paul Butterfield
could really play the Chicago Blues
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:26 PM
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26. Yeah, "Supersession" is a great album!
We listened to it all the time in college.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:08 PM
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14. The Crossrods I
have heard from these shows is very good with Eric's vocals having the confidence that the original lacked.
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:22 PM
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22. "Crossrods?" Is that like a "swordfight?"
I've heard guitar virtuosity attributed to small-wang overcompensation before, but that's just blatant.
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:27 PM
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28. I'd love to hear that. I always loved Cream.
Got "Disraeli Gears" when I was in seventh grade.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:28 PM
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29. Clapton eh? Nah - gimme Frank Zappa any day
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:29 PM
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31. Apples & Oranges, Chavez
Don't think that's a reasonable comparison. Those guys weren't even trying to do similar things.
The Professor
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:30 PM
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33. Ok - I'd rather hear early Jimmy Page then
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:32 PM
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36. Page is a poseur
not half the player that Eric is
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:34 PM
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37. not by my scales - early page was raw and powerful - Clapton too precise
and predictable. Late Page, however was sloppy and sometimes unlistenable.

Frankly I'd take Muddy Waters over both of em.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:36 PM
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38. White Summer
I believe there is a song called White summer that Page recoreded with the Yardbirds which is superior to Black Mountain side with Led zep. I saw led zep's second tour of the U.S.
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bballny Donating Member (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 03:29 PM
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32. Peaches En Regalia
Hot Rats loved Zappa and saw him a couple of times. He unfortunately is not coming back
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-10-05 07:57 PM
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41. I thought this was gonna be a sex thread.
:evilgrin:
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