Instant Karma?

[redqueen]

Warning: rather brutal.

http://holylemon.com/content.php?id=7

[Mutley]

1. GOOD!

That asshat got what he deserved!

[chickenscratching]

3. hey mutley, you know what?

[Mutley]

4. What?

[chickenscratching]

5. :D

[redqueen]

6. I thought you were gonna say "chicken butt"

:shrug:

[Mutley]

7. YAY!

[chickenscratching]

8. oh no!!!

that's even better!

:rofl:

[Mutley]

9. I'm a perv

Someone posted that on the smiley thread and said that JimmyJazz originally posted it? I may not have my facts straight, but I like it!

[chickenscratching]

10. way ta go perv

pervy people are so much more interesting! :hug:

it's very entertaining

[Mutley]

11. Heh, is it sick that I get a kick out of smiley's doin it?

THIS IS NOT A SEX THREAD!

[chickenscratching]

2. holy carrots!

i'd say, isntant karma is very appropriate.

:scared:

[Wapsie B]

12. Oh man,

that hurts just watching it.

[spunky]

13. hahahahaha. I hope it hurt really, really, really bad. Justice is sweet!

[patcox2]

14. And people wonder where or why the idea of god arose.

It arose from the fact that we see the world and all its injustice and pain and suffering, and somehow we know, without being taught, that this is Wrong and it should be Different.

Now this is irrational. To think that pain is wrong and the world should be different and better, where is that a "reality based" thought? Its a nice fantasy, but how does it relate to reality? Its not rational, to desire what your senses and observations tell you simply does not exist. There is no just world where there is no pain and evil is punished and virtue is rewarded. Noone alive has ever seen such a world.

So, how do we know that this fantasy which does not exist is something that "ought to be?" How does it come to be that people almost uniformly long for something that they have never seen and which does not exist?

So anyway, out of our frustration at the inability to find these things we think ought to exist but don't, we create fantasies. The world which does not exist, but which we think should exist, that world where there is no pain and no suffering and virtue is rewarded and assholes get their comeuppance, that is heaven to some people. To others, its the workers paradise that would exist if only the masses throughout the world would rise up and throw down their capitalist oppressors. For libertarians, its the perfect free market world where government is unnecessary because the genius of the invisible hand will turn individual greed into common good. For many atheists, it appears to be a world without religion, under the logic that all pain and suffering stems from religion. But in any event, its something for everyone.

And for many, there must be some force or power enforcing the justice we seek. This is God, personifed or not. For many God is literally man, not even man personified, as they place their hope for justice and an end to suffering in technology or science or political systems, in the potential of the human species for advancement. In other religions, god can be anything from a dispassionate, universal truth similar to a physical law, or personified to a silly degree, it can be a man with a beard on a cloud.

But everyone seems to have one. Its kinda sweet, this longing for an "instant karma" kind of god to enforce justice and bring about paradise.

[redqueen]

15. Dude it's a reference to a song title.

Are you in the right forum?

:eyes:

[patcox2]

16. dude, I am familiar with the works of Lennon, such as they are

And I am indeed in the right forum. I find the inherent human desire for justice very interesting. The discussion was of karma, the idea that some inexplicable force does justice, that malefactors will get "what they deserve." I consider this a manifestation of the religious impulse (anyone who has studied the religious impulse would.)

[redqueen]

18. Well obviously it is.

It seemed that your post was an attempt to label any desire to see justice in everyday occurrences as silly or quaint.

lol... 'such as they are'

[patcox2]

19. I don't think the thirst for justice quaint at all, its the key to life

I think that once you can put your indignation over the world as it is, and your attachment to causes that promise to change the world, in this perspective, that it is all one urge, the urge that drives scientists to discover, the urge that drives philosophers to do what they do, the urge that drives political activism, and yes, even the same urge drives the misguided or poor in intellect to their causes such as fundamentalism or conservatism, you see that we are all one despite different perspectives, all imperfect beings searching for the answer, and noone has a monopoly on truth. That perspective leads to humility, humility leads to the ability to truly communicate with those you disagree with, and ends the polarization that only cements people in their positions. Then you can talk to people without condescension and view them charitably as your brothers and sisters questing like you, no matter how imperfectly, for a better world.

[redqueen]

20. So well put...

Apologies for my terse response... that's twice today I've misunderstood someone's post.

On another board someone seemed to be ragging on blue collar workers and I snapped at him, only to find out he meant exactly the opposite... he was ragging those that dismiss them as lowlifes. :blush:

[tk2kewl]

17. Ouch!

I have been kicked in the chest and I can tell ya, it hurts.

[shesemsmom]

21. Well deserved

:kick: