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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:50 PM
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When you were born...
Who was President of the United States?

Who was VP? Or did we even have a VP?

Which party controlled the House? Senate?

Who was King or Queen of England?

Who was Pope?

For me, Carter and Mondale were leading the country, with the help of the Democratic Congress. Elizabeth II had already been Queen for over 25 years, while Pope John Paul II had been pontiff for not more than a week.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:54 PM
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1. June of 1968
Lyndon B. Johnson was President
Hubert Humphrey was Vice President
Democrats controlled both houses of Congress
Queen Elizabeth II was Queen of England
Pope Paul VI was Pope.
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yankeeinlouisiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:56 PM
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2. I'm glad you knew
all of the answers. I was born in 1964. I only knew Johnson and Queen Elizabeth answers.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:57 PM
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4. I had to look up the Pope, but I knew the rest.
:toast: jchild!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:25 PM
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67. Of course, we had no VP in 1964
Humphrey was elected in 1964, but he didn't become VP until 1965.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:56 PM
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3. Exactly the same for me. I was born a bit earlier, but it's the same...
children of the sixties :toast:
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:40 PM
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31. Same for me
Although since I was born in December 1968, Nixon had already been elected (grr).
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:58 PM
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5. In my year
M.C. Escher died.

Nixon was pres. Spiro was Agnew.

Ditto for the King'n'Queen and Pope, probably...
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:04 PM
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11. same for me...
my hubbie was born under Johnson's admin...
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:58 PM
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6. born in 1970
Nixon was President - ew. Even worse I think Spiro Agnew was Vice Pres - double ew.

The Dems had the House and Senate I do believe.

Queen Elizabeth was Queen - is there anybody on this board that will have a different answer?

And I'm pretty sure Paul VI was Pope still in 1970.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 08:59 PM
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7. Pope Paul VI served until 1978. (nt)
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thom1102 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:28 AM
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48. ...Just a few months before you, in 1969
so all the same for me! I knew all but the pope, and GOPisEvil clued me in on that one!
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:01 PM
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8. 1988...hmm,
Bush I and Quayle were in office I believe...I have no clue who controlled the senate and the house. I think Elizabeth was queen and the pope was John Paul, so...yeah :)
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:02 PM
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9. 1988? Ronnie and Poppy were still in charge.
Poppy and Doofus were inaugurated in 1989.
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leftist_rebel1569 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:16 PM
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15. Whoops...
Okay, so they were ELECTED that year...:P
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:03 PM
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10. same as GOPisEvil, except I was born 2 years earlier
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:04 PM
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12. Ashurbanipal - wait he wasn't a President. - the pope thing is kinda new

I don't think England had been discovered yet
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:10 PM
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13. Okay but be prepared to get out your high school history book.
Franklin Roosevelt was President and Harry Truman was Vice President. I don't know who was in charge of Congress but I think they were Democrats in both houses. King George VI was the King of England and the Pope was Pius XII
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:13 PM
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14. Truman baby here
1951; yeah, a boomer through and through. Of course we had a VP; Alben Barkley. The rest of your questions are a matter of history. Too young to remember.
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:17 PM
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16. Ancient History...very ancient
President: Truman(just for a short time...I was born right in the middle of a Presidential campaign)

Vice President:Barkley

Democratic House and Senate

King Henry V

Pope Pius XII
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mykpart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:23 AM
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40. Truman here too!
Only I don't think there was a VP in 1947. All the other stuff same though, Dem House & Senate, Henry V, Pius XII.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:25 AM
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43. Another Truman kid here...
Born 5 months after the election.

Time does fly. :toast:
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:10 AM
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52. I'm A Truman Kid, Too
I was born November 28, 1952. Eisenhower had just been elected, but Truman was still in office.

My wife was born when Ike was president (June 1960).

My kids were both born while Ford was president (June 1975 and December 1976).
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:00 PM
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55. Ditto
But don't you mean George VI?
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 02:28 PM
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68. hee-hee...
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 02:30 PM by SiobhanClancy
I see you picked up on that:) I think I was making a subtle little statement as to how little a person of Irish ancestry cares about which useless one sits on the British throne at any given time.

edited to say that if I were being accurate instead of a smartass,it would be Elizabeth II as George VI died in Feb 1952,and I was born in September.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:03 PM
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70. I didn't think you were old enough to remember Henry
:evilgrin:

And you're still younger than me. :)
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Red State Rebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:19 PM
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17. 1957!! A great year for Chevy's and Women!
Eisenhower, Nixon, Pious XII
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Clete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:33 PM
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23. Don't forget the sexy, fabulous and original T-Bird.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:17 AM
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46. and Skittles!!!
I was born in March so I'm a Magnum 357 gal!
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:41 PM
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59. Me Too
May of '57
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jenm Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:23 PM
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18. Interesting history assignment.
Eisenhower was president, Nixon, V.P.
democrats held both the house and the senate. Republicans had previously had but one short stint at the helm of the house in '54 but other than that, it had been a democratic dynasty running congress since FDR days.
Elizabeth II was queen.
Pius XII was pope but he died that year and was succeeded by John XXIII.
Name that year. Nah, just kidding, 1958
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:25 PM
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19. April '68
Edited on Thu Oct-23-03 09:37 PM by RatTerrier
1. LBJ

2. Triple H, aka Hubert Humphrey

3. Uhhh, don't know.

4. Some inbred with buck teeth (Elizabeth)

5. Pope? Some old Italian guy. I think it was Pope Paul

On edit: I was born four days after Martin Luther King's assassination.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:29 PM
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21. 1955
Eisenhower was prez/Nixon vice prez
Republicans controlled Congress
(Senate had 48 Repubs, 47 Dems, and 1 Independant)
Elizabeth II was Queen
Pious XII was Pope

1955 was the year Rosa Parks refused to sit in the back of the bus.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:27 PM
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20. October '72. Nixon was prez
I don't know about all the others.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:30 PM
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22. 1984
POTUS: Ronald Wilson Reagan
VPOTUS: George Herbert Walker Bush

Not sure which party was in control of both the House and Senate.

The Queen of England was Elizabeth Alexandra Mary

Pope: Pope John Paul II
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:40 PM
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24. The first year of the 70's
1970

Nixon
Agnew
Democratic Congress
QEII
Paul VI

I hope I passed.
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indigo32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 11:00 PM
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39. Same here
eom
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 09:53 PM
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25. 1940
FDR president - not sure of rest
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markbark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:16 PM
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26. When I Was Born
John F. Kennedy was President
Lyndon Johnson was Vice President
Democrats controlled both the House and Senate
Elizabeth II sat on the English throne.
Blessed John XXIII was the Pontiff.


Other fun things that happened on my birthday:

Captain Cook discovers Hawaii (1778)
Bentley Motors founded (1919)
Botony Bay (Australian Penal Colony) founded (1788)
A.A. Milne was born (Hello all you Pooh fans!) (1882)
Thomas Jefferson asks Congress for $$ to fund Lewis & Clark expedition (1803)
George McGovern announces he's running for President (1971)


--MAB
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:31 PM
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28. On my birthday
from http://www.on-this-day.com

April 8

Birthdays (select)

Guatama Buddha 563 BC
Philip IV (Spain and Portugal) 1605
O. Raymond Knight 1872
Mary Pickford 1893
Sonja Henie 1910
Betty Ford 1918
Shecky Greene 1926
Jacques Brel 1929
J.J. Jackson 1941
Peggy Lennon (Lennon Sisters) 1941
Stuart Pankin 1946
Peter Case (Yes) 1947
Steve Howe (Yes, Asia) 1947
Chris Frantz (Talking Heads, Tom Tom Club) 1951
John Schneider 1954
Donita Sparks (L7) 1961
Izzy Stradlin (Gun's 'N Roses) 1962
Julian Lennon 1963
Dave Rountree (Blur) 1963
Biz Markie 1964
Robin Wright Penn 1966
Patricia Arquette 1968 (same exact day/year as me!!!)
Taran Noah Smith 1984

In history:

Music History

1968 - The Petula Clark TV special "Petula" aired on NBC. (Gee, I'll brag about this to my grave. Uhhh, don't think so.)

1975 - Aerosmith released "Toys in the Attic."

1977 - The Damned became the first British punk group to perform at New York's club CBGB.

1979 - Van Halen began their first world tour.

1983 - Danny Rapp, of Danny and the Juniors, was found dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. He was 41.

1989 - Lol Tolhurst, keyboardist and founding member of the Cure, leaves the band.

1994 - Kurt Cobain (Nirvana) was found dead at the age of 27. He had committed suicide three days before.

1998 - Tommy Lee of Motley Crue was jailed (for 6 months) after breaking a probation order.

1998 - It was reported that Ronnie Wood (Rolling Stones) had caught on fire aboard a small boat in the islands south of Rio de Janneiro. An engine had been the cause of the fire.

1998 - George Michael was released on bail. The arrest was for engaging in lewd conduct in a park restroom. (heh heh)


Misc. History (a few select)

1513 - Explorer Juan Ponce de Leon claimed Florida for Spain.

1946 - The League of Nations assembled in Geneva for the last time.

1947 - The first illustrated insurance policy was issued by the Allstate Insurance Company.

1952 - U.S. President Truman seized steel mills to prevent a nationwide strike.

1962 - Bay of Pigs invaders got thirty years imprisonment in Cuba.

1969 - The first artificial heart was implanted into human.

1974 - Hank Aaron hits 715th home run breaking Babe Ruth's record.

1975 - Frank Robinson of the Cleveland Indians became first black manager of a major league baseball team.

1985 - Phyllis Diller underwent a surgical procedure for permanent eyeliner to eliminate the need for eyelid makeup.

1986 - Clint Eastwood was elected mayor of Carmel, CA.

1988 - Former U.S. President Reagan aid Lyn Nofzinger was sentenced to prison for illegal lobbying for Wedtech Corp.



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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 06:38 AM
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44. Same Here
I was a JFK Baby. Born six months into Camelot.
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:27 PM
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27. Eisenhower was president.
You'll have to google the rest for yourself. ;-)
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:32 PM
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29. Or one of my favorites
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:40 PM
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32. I Blocked That Site At My Firewall
... and all of their other pseudonym redirecting URLS for that site whenver they started doing POPUP ads and FRAMELESS Active-X? popup ads... the ones where you MUST click the ad to dismiss it.

But you're right... their service is still probably pretty good. (Have they changed? Did enough people complain--or stop using their service--so that they would STOP with the popups?)

-- Allen
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:47 PM
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34. Pop-ups?
You need this:

http://www.avantbrowser.com/

IE-based browser. Gives you the option to block ALL pop-ups. I use it exclusively, and it rocks!

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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:51 PM
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38. Using it now... even as we speak.
I blocked them ages ago... before I found Avantbrowser.

I'm still pissed off at them for ruining a perfectly good site. I fear they have lost me permanently. --- I'll stick with Google until they screw up. (Altavista was my previous favorite search engine. They had a "lite" version with NO ads at all... whatsoever. That didn't last long.)

-- Allen
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:35 PM
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30. 30 days before Hisoshima
I will not glow in the dark.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:41 PM
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33. Nobody...
As a matter of fact, I had to wait for two days before there was even dirt on the planet.

When your two days older than dirt, things are pretty lonely.

:eyes:
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:48 PM
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35. Dew'd that'z phunny ~
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salmonhorse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:49 PM
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36. 1950
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LuLu550 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:39 PM
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71. me, too
Who knows the stuff that was going on the year they were born????
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-03 10:49 PM
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37. Sounds like I'm just a few months younger than you.
:)
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:19 AM
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41. January 19, 1953, a day that will live in infamy. For my mom. :-D
Who was President of the United States? Dwight Eisenhower

Who was VP? Or did we even have a VP? Dick Nixon

Which party controlled the House? Senate? Dems, I believe.

Who was King or Queen of England? Love to say other but it was Liz

Who was Pope? Paul, I believe.
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scarlet_owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:59 PM
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62. Hey, I was born on January 19 too!
January 1981, that is. I believe it was the last day of Carter's presidency, and the hostages were coming home.
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tsakshaug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:38 AM
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42. Ike for me
He had 3 days left in his administration.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:01 AM
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45. 1982
Reagan/Bush Sr

I dont know what party controlled what.

I dunno who was Queen

I have no idea who the pope was

weeee

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 07:22 AM
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47. July 4th 1954
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:04 AM
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49. Ike and Tricky Dick
I comfort myself with the fact that at least Eisenhower managed to help save us all from the Nazis and did warn about the military industrial complex.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:08 AM
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50. Ike-2d term
Which means I'm a late baby-boomer, to young for Vietnam (thank god)/.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 10:09 AM
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51. Reagan/Bush
I have no idea who controlled the Senate/House or who was pope or king of queen of england, hell I don't even know who the King and Queen of England is now.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:12 AM
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53. November 1956
Edited on Fri Oct-24-03 12:08 PM by Richardo
1) My date of birth was Thanksgiving Day that year (!)
1a) The Summer Olympics in Melbourne opened on my birth date as well
2) Eisenhower/Nixon just re-elected in landslide
3) Dems control House and Senate
4) Queen Elizabeth II in third year of reign
5) Pope Pius XII

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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:37 PM
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58. October 4, 1956
So pretty much the same as Richardo.
John
Sputnik was launched on my first birthday and intercontinental jet travel (London to NYC) was inaugurated on my second.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 11:47 AM
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54. 1961
President Kennedy
Vice-President Johnson

Queen Elisabeth II

Pope Paul (I think he was pope at the time)
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Bertha Venation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:05 PM
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56. February 22, 1963
Patsy Cline died less than a month later; JFK was assasinated eight months later. I'm younger than Steven Soderbergh, and older than Natalie Merchant.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy

Lyndon Baines Johnson

Democrats controlled both House & Senate

Elizabeth II

Pope John XXIII
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MiddleRiverRefugee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:29 PM
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57. Christmas Eve, 1958....
If only I hadn't heard this song on Michael Weiner Savage's damn show about a year ago, I'd appreciate it a lot more...anyway, this is what happened the day I was born:

from http://www.textism.com/article/287/
"I was mulling this: how pointless music criticism is, how it makes so much more sense just to listen; how hard it must be to review music for money, turning instinct and groove into a, b and c, when, recently, I rode in the passenger seat of my friend Turner’s K-car, listening to one of his mix tapes, which are always good. On this day, wedged between the 70’s porn soundtracks and Vince Guaraldi, there came on 'Beyond the Sea ', a song that’s been spackled all over movies for 40 years, but still, er, kicks.

So we’re driving along, two men nodding slightly to the beat, and Turner starts talking about the recording, the actual session, and in my memory it goes like this: 'Christmas Eve, 1958. Picture it: the singer, the band. They show up in the afternoon, have some drinks, some sandwiches. Everyone smokes, constantly. They cut the track live, (there, that’s where the drummer fucks up) and they’re done before 8.'

As the snow begins to fall, Bobby Darin walks into the Manhattan night, 8 pm, Christmas Eve, 1958."

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alwynsw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:44 PM
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60. Ike was in the Oval Office
The Nixon "Checker's Speech" was still fresh in everyone's mind.

No idea on the Pope. Granddad was a baptist minister.

QE II was fairly fresh to the throne.

The French were getting their butts kicked in French Indochina (Viet Nam).

Who Else remmebers Ted Mack saying, "Remember, Serutan spelled backwards is Nature's"?

I feel old. I'm going for a tall, icy Geritol.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 12:46 PM
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61. or "Lotireg" as Ted Mack used to call it...
...just a little joke my brothers and I used to amuse ourselves with.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:04 PM
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63. JFK, Johnson, not sure about the rest
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:09 PM
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64. FDR – his third term
I don't even know offhand who his VP was at that time. No one else cared, either. VPs weren't looked upon as important people. It's only recently, given the innovation of novice presidents, that they're deemed important.

I saw Harry Truman once when he passed through town on his whistle-stop campaign. I must have been four years old or so.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:38 PM
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65. Sputnik was going over the hospital
At least that's the story my Dad tells. The doctor came out and said, "Look, there's that Russian satellite" and "oh by the way, it's another girl!"

So that would be Eisenhower/Nixon, Pope Pius XII, Queen Elizabeth and I don't know about Congress and don't care to find out.
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 01:42 PM
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66. POTUS: Raygun
VP: Bush I
House: Democratic
Senate: Democratic
English Monarch: Elizabeth II
Pope: John Paul II
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 04:00 PM
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69. In 1959...
Eisenhower was president.
Nixon was VP.
Congress was Democratic, and would remain so for about 25 years.
Elizabeth the Apparently Immortal was Queen, as she still is today (some damn long-lived women in the Hanoverian clan - look how long her mother lived).
I believe John XXIII was Pope.
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mlawson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-03 05:44 PM
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72. Truman, Barkley, Dem, Dem, George VI
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