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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:51 PM
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Grammar Question--capitalization
I am writing about the mental health report by the Surgeon General, and I am not sure when to capitalize "report." Take these two examples:

1) the Surgeon General produced an extensive report

2) After affirming the connection between mental illness and neuroscience on the first page, the report

Should it be capitalized in both cases? One of them? Neither?

Please advise!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:53 PM
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1. Neither.
Only capitalize a word like report if it is part of the title.

The Surgeon General's Report on Mental Health (if it was published with that title, of course!)
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:53 PM
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2. Neither.
I was a journalism major. Trust me. :D
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:53 PM
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3. Neither, I think?
It's not a specific report, so I don't believe it's capitalized in either instance. If it were, for example "produced the extensive writing, the Somename Report", then it's part of a title and so I think you'd capitalize it then. But when you're just using it as a plain, old noun, no caps.

But just wait for the real grammar gurus to come correct me, ok? :)
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:53 PM
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4. Neither....
I can't see any reason to capitilize.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:54 PM
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5. Only if used as as title.
As in "The Surgeon General's Report On Whatever".
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:20 PM
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11. There is Trof
Where you been? Oystering I bet.

180
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:09 PM
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17. 180 and trof! I'll chime in and make it a trifecta.
Bon Secour?

Mac


Half dozen Bon Secures with Lagniappe

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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:08 PM
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23. Also, from the Bon Secour files:
Shrimp boats! Nothing like Mobile Bay! I was born in the Mobile Infirmary and dodged bull alligators on Dog River as a toddler.

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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:27 AM
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30. Shrimp
Shrimp boats is a'coming there be dancing tonight. (Pay check too)

I was once a poor little Yankee boy in Sheffield Alabama.

They called me 'Yank'

180
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 07:51 PM
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32. Damn! My dear 84 year-old mother still sings that song.
In fact, they are coming up here to the mountains to visit me tomorrow. My 85-yo dad loves shrimp. Looks like a run into Brevard's only seafood store tomorrow. Know what I mean, Vern?

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:54 PM
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6. neither....
Edited on Wed Apr-27-05 06:56 PM by mike_c
Capitalize proper nouns. If the title of the report is capitalized, e.g. A Report from the Surgeon General on the Condition of Blah Blah Blah you should capitalize it only when quoting the report title, not when simply using the word "report." That's my non-grammarian two cents worth.
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hyphenate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:55 PM
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7. Neither
Unless you are directly alluding to the word "report" in the actual title of the report, it stays uncapped.
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 06:57 PM
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8. thanks for the consensus!
neither it is.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:01 PM
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9. Let me add to the consenus--if you give the formal title of the report..
...and capitalize everything and the final word in the title is report, then capitalize that Report!
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:05 PM
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10. My completely superfluous contribution: capitalize it in neither place.
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chaska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:26 PM
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12. while on the subject ... how about a lesson on yours vs. your's.
Is the latter ever correct?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:47 PM
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13. Maybe...
What's yours is yours.

But if you were using the word "your" as a subject, you could contract your and is to create your's.
For example:
"Your's the form of the possessive case of the personal pronoun you."

It would be an abominably awkward use of a contraction, though.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:16 PM
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21. I can't say I've ever seen ~your's~, I don't think your is ever contracted
unless it's pregnant.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 11:27 PM
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33. It certainly wouldn't be common
But it would be possible. Consider:
"Your is the form of the possessive case of the personal pronoun you."
Contracted to:
"Your's the form of the possessive case of the personal pronoun you."

If you were using the word your as the subject of the sentence as we do when we discuss grammar.

Here's another awkward sounding sentence that could be contracted in a similar vein:

"We is a pronoun."
"We's a pronoun."

This isn't unlike this pair:

"Susie is a proper noun."
"Susie's a proper noun."


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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 07:52 PM
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14. Check this out
Funny, and a good grammar bit: http://www.earlygirl.com/sincerely.shtml
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:00 PM
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15. That's great!
I love it!

And if caring about grammar is anal, I say not caring about it is like having the runs. :hi:
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LynzM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:12 PM
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19. Yeah, I love her stuff!
www.tomatonation.com (and some other tv-related sites I don't visit)
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 03:23 AM
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27. I love the analogy
Bad grammar frequently makes the meaning ambiguous, but any attempt to introduce a dash of precision is met with derision - a good come-back.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:13 PM
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26. No.
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:50 AM
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28. There is no such contraction as your's.
Edited on Thu Apr-28-05 04:52 AM by RebelOne
Yours is the possessive. And report is not capitalized unless it is part of a title. Take it from me. I earn my living as a copy editor.
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welshTerrier2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:08 PM
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16. capital letters are kind of, i don't know, uppity ...
i've stopped using them completely ...

every letter can aspire to be elitist or common ... why let them pretend to be something they're not ???

capital letters have very bad attitudes ... they always want to be the first letter in a sentence or the first letter in a word ...

what's up with that ???
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:09 PM
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18. Neither. n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:15 PM
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20. Neither
Now, I'm no English Major, perhaps SOteric may add something to this, because she is, but in my humble opinion, if the report was an annual thing, such as the State of the Union Address, report should be. If it's a one off report, that the Surgeon General decided to put out, then no, it's just another report.

If that helps.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 08:19 PM
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22. neither case, unless...
The Surgeon General Report; and even then on the outside so as to say
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:08 PM
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24. Another vote for neither.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-27-05 09:12 PM
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25. When you are referring to the actual report, i.e., as a source . . .
. . . I say capitalize it.

For example, "The Report states . . . ."

But when referring to it more generically, as in, "produced an extensive report," do not capitalize.

I think this will help the reader more readily understand when you are referring to the contents or substance of the Report.

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texanwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 04:57 AM
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29. Words that represent a person, place, or thing need to be
capitalized, this is what I learned in school.

Hope it helps.
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malta blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-28-05 08:30 AM
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31. Neither n/t
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