LEGALIZE MJ, COCAINE, HEROIN! NOW!

[bertha katzenengel]

Provocative? Yes! But I'm falling asleep and the shitstorm will have passed by morning!

I AM a firm believer in legalizing and regulating these drugs in the same way alcohol and tobacco are regulated.

Look at what the Volstead Act did to this country. Didn't we learn anything?

Look at what the befucked "war on drugs" is doing to this country! Billions spent for nothing, inner cities totally fucked, countless lives lost, wasted, ruined, and in countless ways: overdoses, drive-bys, crack babies, drug mules whose balloons burst, police officers & suspects killed....

I could go on but I am falling asleep. Hopefully this will not be gone in the morning.

Mods, if you see fit, go on and move this to GD.

[goodboy]

1. If the US grew cannabis and taxed it, we'd eliminate our national debt.

[bertha katzenengel]

2. See? That's exactly what I'm talking about!

:bounce:

[redsoxliberal]

3. bring back prohibition!

just kidding.

But yeah, legalize weed.

Is this you finally coming down after 4-20?

:smoke:

[bertha katzenengel]

11. Heh heh heh . . . I've never even made it to 4-20, redsoxlib...

never gotten high, never dropped acid, snorted, shot up, nuthin'. Lurking freepers probably refuse to believe that, but it's true. Fuck 'em.

[redsoxliberal]

18. that's cool

i don't believe you you trashy hippy.

[mopinko]

4. here in the land of al capone

mayor daley is trying to decriminalize mj in the city. 90% of cases that go to court are dismissed. no one here wants to spend the money to punish pot smokers. now they are getting tired of spending the money on busting them. have my beefs with baby doc, but sometimes he makes sense.
the reason prohibition was repealed was to get the money out of the black market and into the mainstream economy where it could be taxed. perhaps this will be the silver lining in our impending crash.

[Goathead]

5. Part of the allure of the drug culture

Is the fact that it is illegal. Soccer moms can be outlaws by taking a little puff out back in shed, while the kids are playing Xbox. Do you want to take that away from them? If you legalize it then corporations will make gazillions in profits and become even more powerful. Legalization would mean even stringent laws against people that 'grow their own' as the government would seek to tax this new market. I think they should stay illegal, sorry. :hi:

[bertha katzenengel]

9. I don't know: is it illegal for one to grow his own tobacco? To brew

his own beer or make his own wine?

Lots of soccer moms can still be outlaws, though: think of how many people think their kids don't know they smoke.

:hi:

[mopinko]

14. don't know about tobacco

but you absolutely can brew your own beer and make your own wine. you can make 10 cases of beer per adult member of your household per year. don't know about the wine. you can't distill alcohol, tho. so, they could still make moonshine, i guess.

[Goathead]

22. Try selling it though n/t

[Dave Sund]

20. Sounds like you're arguing for decriminalization

[Zuni]

6. I don't think the Government is solving the problem

and it can make uber cash off drug taxes

[MuseRider]

7. Agree 100%.

I have always felt that way. The war on drugs is stupid, ineffective and expensive. Regulate and tax them like liquor and cigarettes.

[sasquatch]

8. When and where did you get hitched?

BTW maybe you can give Rush some "H" and he can finally see what the real thing is like.

[bertha katzenengel]

10. I am ignorant about a lot of things, sasquatch...

so ignorant I don't get your question, unless you're talking about marriage.... :dunce: Please explain?

[Ariana Celeste]

12. Oxycotin = hillbilly heroin

That's what they mean. :)

On edit: the pills he takes are derivatives of morphine, which is a derivative of Opium- heroin is also a derivative of opium.

[bertha katzenengel]

13. ooh, no, no, no, no.

My BIL had a problem w/ that. :scared: Legal? Yes. Abused? FUCK yes. Scary drug.

But that it's abused isn't a good reason not to legalize others.

See, I'm too tired to be posting now, I'm not making any sense.

'night, all

[sasquatch]

19. When and where did you get hitched?

This time without references of Rush Limbaugh doing opium related drugs.
:)

[HeeBGBz]

15. Just let me grow my own, please

Personal consumption.

[DistressedAmerican]

16. I COULD NOT AGREE MORE!

Good for you for standing for full legalization. Legalization of weed would be a big help to the issue but, it it not enough. Most stop there.

The war on drugs can be won overnight by removing the profit from the terrorists, cartels, street gangs and dealers!

Kicked their asses in Chi-town!

[Ariana Celeste]

17. One of the main reasons

I completely agree, is because money the govt. could make off legalizing and taxing drugs could in part be used for clinics for addicts.

Addiction is a disease, and addicts need therapy- not a cell.

It is sooo much easier for kids to get marijuana and hard drugs then it is for them to get alcohol and cigarettes. Why? Because alcohol and cigarettes are regulated and not sold on the streets.

The War on Drugs is pointless and does absolutely nothing to help the problem; unless of course you consider overcrowded prisons to be a good thing.

I wish more people could think, even for just a moment... about how many more REAL criminals would be behind bars right now if cops didn't have to spend so much time tracking down kids with dime bags. Rapists, murderers, child molesters, etc. would be the main focus of law enforcement, if only we could drop this pathetic, go nowhere War on Some Drugs.

[LynzM]

21. When Prisons stop = Profit

Right now, that's a HUGE industry to be involved with... people are making a lot of money off of '3-strikes' laws and the like. I agree that they do have their applications, in some cases I'd almost like them to be 1-strike laws (rape, particularly, and child molestation). But 3-strikes for pot smokers, etc., quickly fill up big prisons. And someone sells food to those prisons, and clothes, and cleaning services, and... and... and.... it goes on.

"The number of Americans in the prison system has doubled since 1985" -System of a Down

[bertha katzenengel]

23. kick -- any other opinions?

:kick:

[Bullwinkle925]

24. And, while we're at it - legalize prostitution as well. Save those

girls from their asswipe pimps and tax the services!

[KitchenWitch]

25. It sure would stop this phony war on drugs

and certainly fewer brown people (who happen to be US citizens) would end up in prison (another tax burden brought to us by the war on drugs).

[EstimatedProphet]

26. I agree, but...

1) the "war on drugs" drives a substantial part of the economy;

2) the majority of people who are affected by illegal drugs don't matter to the industrial economy, or the people who make the drug legislation;

3) the police get paid to die-at least in the minds of those who make the anti-drug legislation;

4) there's more points that are clearly obvious.

The people that support the "war on drugs" are making huge amounts of money off of it. They will never care about the effects. The government officials who would be able to stop the war on drugs are making a fortune in kickbacks from organized crime too-the Rico Act which was supposed to destroy organized crime doesn't even touch them, because they just pay off the officials to look the other way or go after the little guys.

For the war on drugs to end, it has to quit being a sacred cow. Right now it's a hard sell to legalize things that are admittedly often destructive. Anyone who campaigns for legalizing drugs is automatically a Bad Man, because drugs are bad-everyone knows that. We need to fundamentally change the way people think about drug use before it will happen, because the average American has been brainwashed to believe that recreational drug use is morally akin to murder.