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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:16 PM
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Poll question: The skeletronic look on women: Sexy or not?
The skeletronic look on women: Sexy or not?

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:17 PM
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1. That's way worse than the other one. n/t
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:18 PM
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3. Yep. She looks about 5'8" and 85 lbs.
Scary.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:18 PM
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2. That's not a woman.
Edited on Wed Apr-13-05 11:18 PM by Spider Jerusalem
That's a walking clothing rack.
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mark414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:19 PM
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4. what can i say i love skinny women
:shrug:

good thing i'm in college
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:56 AM
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39. Skinny women are one thing, but c'mon...
Some of these women look like they just got out of a concentration camp! Who told them looking like a skeleton was/is sexy??

C'mon ladies, grab a sandwich...
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mhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:19 PM
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5. That's Just A Little To Thin
eom
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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:21 PM
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6. That's really gross
She's way way way too skinny. It kind of makes me ill to look. Especially for her height.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:17 AM
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20. pardonne?
Some of us look that way naturally. Myself included, although as a male, my scrawniness has never been considered sexy, but I lifted weights and tried like hell to gain weight until my junior year of college.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:54 PM
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55. women have these things they call breasts
and sometimes even a rear end. A stay in Auschwitz (or an eating disorder) will cure that, but otherwise we don't tend to look like adolescent boys.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:38 PM
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71. mmmmmmmmmmmmm
BREASTS.

sorry, was distracted there for a minute.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 02:19 AM
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73. according to my roommate from India
American women do not have breasts. I got a little huffy at that, in spite of the way American women have treated me. Then I began to notice that alot of women that I considered quite attractive were not, in fact, overly endowed with mammary glands. When I traveled through Deutschland in 2001 the women I saw seemed to be well-endowed to my American eye.
Both my little sister and my dad's aunt were skinny without either the need for Auschwitz or an eating disorder. Not every woman who looks that way is the result of a starvation diet. I think it is unfair to assume so and unfair to disparage her solely on the basis of the way she looks as if she necessarily has a moral defect or is a victim.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-15-05 03:05 AM
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74. there are different body types
Thin women generally do not have large breasts, unless they are implants. Fuller figured women do have larger breasts. I expect your Indian friend was commenting on what he sees on television rather than in real life. Actresses are unusually thin and thus tend to be very small chested or have implants.
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:21 PM
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7. Darling?
may I buy you a couple of pork chops? Please?
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CubsFan1982 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:23 PM
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8. That's kinda what I envisioned Maris Crane to look like.
What fun is THAT?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:24 PM
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9. I do like slim women, but that's just extreme.
Thin, yes.

Skeletal, no.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:24 PM
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10. Only if you get a boner looking at pictures of Dachau survivors.
Didn't think anything one way or another until her knees downloaded....

Brrrrr!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:26 PM
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11. She reminds me of
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:24 AM
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43. She reminds me of
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:47 PM
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52. Oh come on...
Her antennae aren't nearly that long. ;-)

Once when we were camping in Shenandoah NP, our campsite was the convention hall for all horny stick bugs in a 40 mile radius...at least, that's the way it seemed at the time. It was amazing. I've never seen the spot so thick with them since then.
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lenidog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:26 PM
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12. Only if you think the Auschwitz look is hot would you find her
attractive.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:31 PM
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13. to me it's attractive
However, I know it's an illness. The woman needs to protect her brain and her heart and eat a durn sandwich.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:51 PM
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14. I think this post sucks
I was this skinny once. I am 5'7" and weighed 96 lbs naturally when I was this model's age. Instead of being judged for what kind of person I was, I was constantly accused by others of having an eating disorder, having to listen to random strangers tell me how disgusted they were with how skinny I was.

I'm not that skinny any more and I'm happy about it. However, I think it is just as sexist and wrong now to judge a woman based on how much they weigh, thin or heavy, as I did back then.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:04 AM
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16. Asking whether or not she's attractive doesn't imply any judgement.
Other than of the aesthetic variety.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:12 AM
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18. Yeah, right.
The word "skeletronic" is meant to be neutral, I suppose. I suppose next you're going to tell me that you didn't realize the term originated from Skeletor, of He-Man fame. Hardly non-judgemental.


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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:13 AM
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19. Actually, I didn't.
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 12:16 AM by Spider Jerusalem
Nor do I care, to be honest. Like I said, I see it as an aesthetic judgement. Not a condemnation.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:20 AM
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21. Hmmmmm....
Try substituting behemoth and posting a picture of an extremely overweight woman and see how quickly the thread gets locked. The discussion on this thread is hardly of the aesthetic kind. Unless aesthetics now includes morality judgements and the diagnosis of various eating disorders.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:26 AM
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22. Eh.
I haven't made any morality judgements, or any eating-disorder comments (I'm male, 6' tall, and weigh about 135, even though I actually eat and get the odd bit of exercise, so I don't assume that someone who's skinny has an eating disorder).
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:36 AM
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23. I beg to differ
You said she wasn't a woman, that she was a walking clothing rack. Hardly a treatise on aesthetics, now is it?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:42 AM
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26. Whatever.
That's my aesthetic opinion. And I didn't say anything about eating disorders.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:43 AM
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27. If people were making themselves morbidly obese on purpose...
...because it was trendy, I think that would be worthy of discussion.

But of course, that is not the case. The vast majority of morbidly obese are that way for any variety of emotional and/or physical problems. They don't try to be fat, and millions of teen girls aren't being encouraged by magazines to stuff themselves silly so they can be that way, too.


I understand your point, but I think you're being a bit draconian. Until beauty standards swing back a bit closer to the old Marilyn Monroe ideal, I see nothing wrong with pointing out the fact that most people find EMACIATED women unsexy. Healthy and skinny is another thing altogether.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:07 AM
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29. But you don't know that she made herself that way on purpose
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 01:27 AM by Susang
Now do you? You're just assuming that she did because she's a model. You cannot possibly have a clue from that picture whether that model is healthy or not, no matter how thin she appears in the ad.

I think you're the one who's being severe here. I'm not calling anyone *emaciated* based on an advert that was in all probability Scitexed.

Have you ever considered that perhaps women are so obsessed with their weight, because no matter what it is, it's never going to be the right weight for society? If you're heavy, you're too fat, if you're skinny, you have an eating disorder. The problem is the judgment of women based on weight and appearance, not their appearance itself. I would really hope people here would understand that a little bit better.

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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:38 AM
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24. "Skeletronic" is meant simply to be funny.
And I'm talking more about emaciated waif-type models than naturally thin girls.

The girls in the pic is actually not as bad as many of them can get.

Callista Flockhart and Lara Flynn Boyle are hardly feminist role models with their emaciated frames.

And most of us would consider you lucky if you ate but couldn't put on weight. I wish I had that "problem".

BTW, I had never thought of "skeletor", I just thought it was a funny way to say "skeletal".
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:20 AM
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33. ditto that
"my god, you are thin" no one says "my god, you are fat" gets old
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SarahB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:22 AM
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44. I agree.
This isn't my body type (I'm a very curvy, medium type) who has never (and likely will never) be that thin (for me unless I was ill) and these threads always make me cringe. I don't like seeing women's bodies picked apart like this. :(
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:59 PM
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56. the problem as I see it is not the woman
Or any thin women. It's a society and a modeling industry in particular that tells women they need to be chronically underweight to be attractive. As human beings, we come in all shapes and sizes. But models often have to starve themselves and develop severe health problems because they are expected to maintain this kind of appearance.

I agree that a post asking people to judge women's bodies is inappropriate.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:21 PM
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64. I was 5'5" amd 100 lbs for years and got the same grief
I'm not thin anymore, but I agree with you about posts like these.

Would the OP put up a post of an equally thin man and feel free to pick him apart?
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R. A. Fuqua Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-13-05 11:56 PM
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15. I like my women with a little bit of meat on them.
In my opinion, this poor girl looks sick. But, I also think that most models and actresses etc are FAR too thin.

I have nothing against skinny women--but I am most attracted to women who have some serious curvature for me to caress.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:26 AM
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46. I like me a nice badonkadonk as well...
My anaconda can't get none if it don't got buns, hon...
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:05 AM
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17. That's the reason we had the Schiavo case and why we have Ann Coulter.
why starve yourself?
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:39 AM
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25. great. another thread picking apart a woman's body.
sleazy and tacky, whether the girl in question weighs 85 or 285 pounds.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 12:46 AM
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28. I put in a thread about a guy's body too.
The point isn't to "pick anybody apart." I hope every person can be their own healthiest body weight, whether it's a bit plump or a bit thin is fine. But starving yourself to be like the waifs in magazines is sad and wrong. And I don't think it's sexist to say so.

I also think it's sad that all men are now expected to be buff beyond reason. Normal men with families and careers don't have time to spend that much time at the gym.
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:10 AM
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30. You didn't mention the other thread about women that you posted
Why is that? :shrug:
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:13 AM
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32. That was about six-packs - very unnatural on a woman...
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 01:15 AM by UdoKier
...and not especially natural on a man, either. It's a matter of preference. Are you all offended over that one too?
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:26 AM
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35. Did I say I was offended?
You seem far more offended that someone finds fault with this post than I am about the content of it. To paraphrase your earlier post, I see nothing wrong with pointing out that most women find judgments based solely on physicality sexist and unsexy.
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UdoKier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:46 AM
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36. Wow. Now you get to speak for "most women".
Glad to know you've got your finger on the pulse...


But you're certainly entitled to your opinion.
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:02 PM
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57. here's one woman
who seconds her opinion
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Susang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:13 PM
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62. Many thanks.
:toast:
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:32 PM
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67. Thirds
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MollyStark Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:25 PM
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65. ahem!
Skeletronic is an insult.
You didn't post a thread saying it's sad that women starve themselves. You posted a thread asking if Skeletronic women were attractive.
Do you think if you posted a thread asking if Fat women were attractive that no one would object?
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ffm172 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:12 AM
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31. how in the world are normal sized women supposed to find clothes
that where designed for skeletons? How many skeletons are there compared to normal sized women?
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:21 PM
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63. You know, I hate to add to a pile-on, but please.
Can we not refer to women as "skeletons"?
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:26 AM
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34. Too thin for my taste.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 01:59 AM
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37. here is another extreme
:o
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ffm172 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:00 AM
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38. oh my god
that is not natural :puke:
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imenja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:02 PM
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58. that's what steroids are for.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:58 AM
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40.  When did male body builders start wearing dresses??
Also, I think this fella could use a haircut.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:58 AM
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41. Is that real??!!?....
...If it is, whats the point of looking like that?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 05:08 AM
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42. to wear lingerie?
BWAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :o
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:23 AM
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45. Is that you Skittles? No wonder you can kick our asses!!
:eyes:
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rene moon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:24 PM
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47. This is rude
Not only is it annoying to see a woman's weight picked on AGAIN on DU, some of us here are "skeletronic", as it were.

I am almost "5'8" and weight about 110. I am very thin and healthy and my husband enjoys my body.

Thank alot (NOT)
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:25 PM
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48. my thigh is probably bigger than her waist!
UGH how gross
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:28 PM
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49. different people find different things attractive
the end
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:29 PM
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50. Is there even room for any internal organs there?
:scared:
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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:36 PM
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51. Sexy.
I think all women are sexy.
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:52 PM
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53. Might be moderately sexy if...
...she had some damned HIPS. Skinny models are one thing. They've been around for quite some time; but I really don't understand the appeal of a model with no hips whatsoever.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 02:52 PM
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54. EAT SOMETHING!
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:05 PM
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59. It makes me relieved to see people thinner than me
I am 5'5'' and 110 lbs because of digestive problems. I usually want to eat more but I feel ill. I am finally getting the doctor to take me seriously on this issue (the whole losing weight and not getting enough food in). It does hurt when people comment about me being too thin. Last year around this time, I weighed around 135 lbs wanting to be 5-10 pounds thinner but being generally alright with my body. Being 110 lbs is not how I think that I should look, especially since I am a bit unproportioned, being very bony in some places. On the otherhand, it is evident that a lot of people find my new look more attractive, which really messes with my head.
I don't where really thin women find clothes. I bought a wear of size two jean shorts, which were not tight, and they didn't carry a smaller size in that style. That's why I think that it is odd that extremely thin women are models. Are they wearing normal sizes?
Anyway, I am relieved when I see people thinner than me because it makes me feel that I'll be alright healthwise at my size as long as I don't lose too much more weight.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 06:28 PM
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66. Finding clothes -
I have no trouble finding clothes. I buy size 1 at the Gap and Old Navy, size 2 at Abercrombie (runs smaller than Gap or Old Navy), and size 0 at Express. All of these stores, and others, carry XS too. For dressier clothes, Ann Taylor carries size 0.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:35 PM
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68. I usually go to department stores
I'll try these other stores if I lose any more weight.
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jukes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:15 PM
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60. depends
Edited on Thu Apr-14-05 03:22 PM by jukes
fiona apple=HOTTT!

ann coulter= not w/ a borrowed!





ON EDIT: i think i've advanced the argument that superficiality in declaring attractiveness is not PC, if even liberal. a booring person is booring, even if they're gorgeous.
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El Fuego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 03:21 PM
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61. Real women have curves!
That's my story and I'm sticking to it!
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:37 PM
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69. That scarecrow needs more straw. (nt)
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:37 PM
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70. gross
real women have curves.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-14-05 07:39 PM
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72. ew ew ew
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