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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:01 PM
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Poll question: Who do you think was Jack the Ripper
Edited on Wed Mar-30-05 08:02 PM by WI_DEM
here is an interesting site if you are interested in true crime:

http://www.casebook.org/suspects
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:09 PM
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1. My profile
a non native resident of Whitechapel, not fluent in English, poorly educated. Probably native of Eastern Europe or Russia. Poor. Maybe worked as a butcher at one time. Not sophisticated. Definetly not a doctor, but perhaps had worked in a morgue or a hospital, but more likely as a butcher.
Person was probably very disorganized, messy with few friends. Had a profound hatred of women, sexually incompetent. Probably very much incapable of interpersonal relationships.
Probably has been in a mental institution. Probably mentally or emotionally disturbed, visible to others. Not a Ted Bundy type killer, not suave and confident.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:13 PM
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4. sounds like Kosminsky.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:17 PM
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7. That would be my best guess
of all the names on the list. Perhaps someone similar.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:22 PM
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9. also, I do not think he was the letter writer
I do not believe that a killer so disorganized and who simply attacked women on the street would be the witty villian of the letters.

The "From Hell" letter, perhaps written by an illiterate or non-fluent English speaker, was the only letter likely to be written by the actual killer.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:13 PM
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2. Dick Nixon.

Call me crazy, but I don't trust that guy.
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:13 PM
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3. Patricia Cornwall (I think that's her name) wrote a pretty
convincing account of why she thinks it was Walter Sickert. After reading it, it's hard NOT to believe he was involved.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:19 PM
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8. Her case is weak
She can perhaps argue that the Ripper letters were by Sickert, but I think only one of the letters was actually written by the killer, if any.

That was the "From Hell" letter, with the piece of a kidney sent with it.
I don't think Jack coined his own name, nor was he probably witty or even literate.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:53 PM
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22. All circumstance, no substance.
Cornwell proved nothing and had the gall to proclaim in giant type 'CASE SOLVED'. After reading her book, I saw not one piece of real evidence that ties Sickert to any of the killings.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:15 PM
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5. I think it was progmom
You just can't trust anyone who's been indoctrinated and is so wholly and happily immersed in Satan's music.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:16 PM
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6. that would probably make progmom the oldest person on DU
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:37 PM
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10. Honestly, I don't have a favorite suspect.
One thing is clear, though. Jack the Ripper was a different sort of killer, better suited to the era of the Zodiac Killer or the Son of Sam than to the Victorian Era.

Of course, with modern technology he might well have been caught. But there's your conundrum.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:51 PM
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20. Jack the Ripper: midwife of the twentieth century...
that was an analogy used by Alan Moore in "From Hell". Apt, in my view.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:38 PM
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11. Bill Clinton's penis. n/t
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:39 PM
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12. Of Course!!
When you think about it--the answer is obvious.
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:53 PM
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21. damn, i was going to say that
it was the CLENIS!
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:45 PM
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13. Dr. Frank Tumblety.
Of the suspects we have, he fits the profile best.

Of course, it could just as easily be persons unknown.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:46 PM
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14. I think all the wounds were self-inflicted; a series of copycat suicides
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:47 PM
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15. they obviously wanted to die
especially Mary Kelly--that was not simply a cry for help.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:49 PM
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17. No kidding. That was self-mutilation to the nth power.
The poor girl obviously needed counseling.
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:47 PM
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16. barbara bush
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:51 PM
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19. well, she is old enough
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:50 PM
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18. Possibly Sir Wm. Withy Gull...
I know many discredit Knight's book on the subject, but there's convincing circumstantial evidence about him and the Masonic connection. Much like the Bush administration, homosexuals in high places protecting their "family man" status at the expense of commoners.
Cornwell's book is shite, based entirely upon her speculation and assumptions. I think Walter Sickert MAY have been involved in the killings, but he wasn't the only murderer.
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Wat_Tyler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 08:59 PM
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23. That's the problem - circumstancial.
Neither you, I, or anyone else can place any of the suspects at or near the scene of the crime.

As far as I'm concerned, the Royal Conspiracy is pretty absurd - if you want to keep something quiet, hacking up five women in London is a pretty funny way of going about it.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-30-05 09:04 PM
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24. Montague John Druitt was the police's last suspect....
Druitt killed himself 2 weeks after the last murder...he had gone from a very repectable gent to a slovenly freak who haunted the east end and stayed in hovels...his family actually told the police they thought it was him!...and the main police investigator also thought so (one of the problems with the jack/ripper case was victorian england class consciousness- any info that reflected too badly upon upper classses would naturally be subverted) And as far as maybrick or sickert goes, both men played up to the jack/ripper notoriety....patricia cornwell is a neocon goofball who exploited the jack ripper case to sell her fantastical book...sickert lived until what...1940? Jack the ripper was a monster by the time of the kelly murder..he spent hours messing with her guts etc
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