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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:26 PM
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Farewell DU! It's been one hell of a run!
First allow me to qualify something right off the bat. This forum, this message board, this meeting place, is one of the finest online communities that I’ve ever been associated with. I have nothing but respect for the 3 amazing men who run this place, Elad, Skinner and Earl G. It has got to be one heck of a gig to run this joint.

60,000 personalities to deal with and 60,000 different opinions. It makes me wonder if the 3 go to bed at night hearing voices in their heads. I couldn’t do it….First off way too much work for a lazy guy like me and second, I couldn’t deal day in and day out with people like me. If I ran this message board there’d be 10 members instead of 60,000. I will always have much respect for the owners of Democratic Underground and someday if I get the honor to meet them in person, my hand will be extended to thank them for helping me further my political education.

Now why am I leaving? Because it’s time. All good things must come to past…Blah, Blah, Blah…..Seriously, It’s been a great run here… Back in 2001 I was surfing the net and found this forum and was immediately drawn in by the folks who felt the way I did. WE COULDN’T STAND REPUBLICANS! I remember struggling at first with the type of posts that I would submit. I was kind of naïve about things like the PNAC, the Bush Crime family, etc, so I found myself getting into debates with DUers who countered my naïve sense of reality. I simply could not believe what I was reading and would blurt out BULLSHIT to the DUers who posted what ended up being the truth. Back then there was a bit more tolerance for newbie’s like me and they let me hang around. Thank God they did.

My eyes slowly opened to a political world that I did not know existed. PNAC, Scott Ritter, Prescott Bush, George Bush, Tom Delay, the MSM, and on and on…. This forum let me know about Media Whores Online, Bob Somerby, Atrios, KOS, Josh Marshall, TruthOut, and on and on. This forum taught me that Tin Foil can turn into the real deal with a couple of Google searches. BUT most importantly, this forum gave me the opportunity to meet countless friends throughout this big WORLD of ours.

There are dozens of friends that I have here at DU and if I miss a few of you, please know in my heart that you’re there… First… One of my all time favorites… Catwoman. Cat and I got it going in an OJ thread a couple of years back. Cat, it’s amazing how many OJ pics are still on the web. LOL

Next, my football arch nemesis, Will Pitt. Pitt and I have had our differences in the past but I’ve continued to have much respect for this great Democrat. I’ve read everything the guys written and will continue to do so at TruthOut. Remember this about Will Pitt. His book with Scott Ritter will be read 50 years from now and will be an important read for anyone wanting to know how the hell we blew it in Iraq and the Middle East. BTW: Will.. My Phins are coming back baby…..

I fell in love with a girl named Misunderestimator who loves a girl named Tina… DAMN! I coulda been a contender… ;-)

Old-timers like Crewleader, Zomby, Underpants, LynneSin, newyawker99 who by the way should be commended for his milestone threads, Dookus, Skittles, SoCalDem, Magic Rat, arwalden, Walt Starr,
Nothingshocksmeanymore, H2O Man, Tom_ Paine, Hey Tom, Heil Hitler! ;-)
T Roosevelt, TSIAS, Ohio Dem, Khephra I know you’re up there buddy, and on and on and on.

A quick shout to Matcom. Mat… I know I’ve pissed you off in the past, Cig threads, the debate threads, etc. I apologize for being an abrasive jerk. You Sir, are one of the good guys and I wish you the best.

Now let’s put a stake through the heart of this farewell…. My reasons for leaving DU are simple. With a message board this size you need rules, lot’s of rules. I have been on many a message board that allowed for anything to go. Uggg… Nasty nasty nasty. Trust me…without the rules this forum would be a piece of crap.

Back in the early days of DU we didn’t have that many rules..WHY? Not that many people hence not that many situations needing rules. Well, 50,000 members later, situations abound. What if they say this, or…what if a sex thread evolves into something nasty?… I GET IT. I understand why it’s gotta be this way. One more important factor in all this. It’s a privately owned message board. This isn’t run by the Public Service Commission or the FCC. No it’s run by 3 young dudes in D.C. It’s theirs…. When you’re in their house they expect some civility. Again, I get it and I perfectly understand the necessity of it.

BUT…. I find myself more and more breaking their rules. I can’t help it. It’s me, it’s who I am and what I am. You’d think as I get older I’d mellow a bit..LOL NOT! I see what I see, I read what I read, and I say what I say. If it’s “You fucking asshole troll” . that’s what I say. If it’s “You have Shit for Brains” that’s what I say. You simply can’t say those types of things in a forum with 60,000 members. But that’s me; that’s who I am. The funny thing is, is that I hate the forums that allow you to act that way…Go figure?

So before I get banned for one more outburst, an inevitable outburst if I were to stay, I will say goodbye and leave on the high road. Will I lurk… Probably not. That’s like asking a sex addict to watch the Last Tango in Paris for therapy. Nah…I’m done.

Take care DU…..

Tru
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WoodrowFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:28 PM
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1. you'll be back.
you're addicted like the rest of us. ;)
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:29 PM
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2. One last word....
newyawker's a she. :hi: Take care.
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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:34 PM
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9. All this time here and trumad never even caught on to that? LOL
Too busy talking about football, OJ, and accusing regular contributors of home page essays of being freepers because they have a low post count in the forums, I guess.

Ciao tru, though I suspect you'll be back sooner or later :freak:
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:29 PM
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3. .
:(
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dolo amber Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:46 PM
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23. .
:(
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:36 PM
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77. .
:P
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HamstersFromHell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:35 PM
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105. ..
for that, we can only hope for a motherboard failure soon.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:29 PM
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4. Um .... what ? ...
No .....

Trumad is an institution ....

Institutions don't up and walk away ....

Say you're kidding ....
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:31 PM
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5. Is this what did it?
Did it? You did...well, so be it for the end to come this way.

A sad passing, but only in the eyes of those who are not blind.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:32 PM
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6. Can you stay away?
I don't think it is possible, this place gets in your blood.
You get addicted to it just like a drug.
This is a refuge for those of who have to deal with the crap of the world daily.
You will be back!
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:32 PM
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7. I didn't get a chance to know you well, but I have some advice:
Wear a raincoat, because some folks will be ready to piss on you for saying goodbye.

I'm not one of them. Take it easy!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:34 PM
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8. What? No mention of me?
Totally kidding. I don't know how people leave this place, I'm too addicted.

But you gotta do what you gotta do, so bye!

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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:35 PM
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10. But see, trumad, we need your voice here... we need people willing to
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 08:36 PM by Misunderestimator
push the envelope for the right reasons, and you do that. I've made a friend in you, and that will remain, your leaving this site won't change that, though I understand your reasons, as frustrating as the attitudes can be at times. I know you won't find a site that will suit you perfectly, as none of us will. This is the closest I've come to a liberal and diverse community since I left NYC almost ten years ago, so for me, it's a life saver... And you are one of the ones that made it so. Take care, trumad! :loveya:
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:35 PM
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11. Do what I do
Come here from time to time and cherry-pick a few threads to let people know you're still alive.
John
Mom always told me that the more rules something has, the less fun that something is. And so there goes your proof. We'll meet again.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:36 PM
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12. You're not the only one who feels increasingly out of place
Good luck and god bless, trumad. I give you a week. :evilgrin:

At least you're going out at the top of your game.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:37 PM
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13. Why not just step outside for a while, and leave the door open?
And i've got an idea.

Persuade the admins, those three guys, to allow you to start a "group" for DUers who've been here since, I dunno, 2001 or 2002. Exclusive group for longtime DUers, with very minimal mod. presence. (wouldn't need a heavy mod presence if only longtime DUers were all who could post there.

Not a perfect idea, but maybe an idea that could be perfected.

I've quit a few jobs, and now and then, I wonder to myself why I had to quit, rather than take an extended leave. Why burn the bridge, so to speak.

Its not the same here, in this situation, but it is similar.

Don't say goodbye, just "leave" for a while.

DU may not be the same with all the rules, but it won't be the same without you either.

And you probably don't know who the f I am. I used to be nu_duer, but that's probably no help either.

Anyway, that's my reply to your post.

Rethink thins, eh?
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Amaya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:38 PM
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14. I will miss you : (
take care, trumad :hug:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:38 PM
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15. You'll be back
We're like crack to you
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:38 PM
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16. I'm inconsolable
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 08:39 PM by CatWoman
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:39 PM
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17. You wrote a very thoughtful farewell.`
I understand where you are coming from. Democratic Underground was a lifesaver for me when I came here sometime after the 2000 election. I was so depressed, and it was comforting to find others who thought the way I did. I got an education at DU just as you did.

I am not ready to leave yet, but I think I should spend more time actually doing something to save our country and less time just reading about what's wrong with it.

I wish you well.

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:40 PM
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18. Good luck, Tru
"Be thou a soul to fullness grown,
Arise to gain thy dreams."

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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:42 PM
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19. BUT
the Derby is coming up and who knows, we might have another run for the triple crown. Who will I fight with?
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Maccagirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:42 PM
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20. If this is well and truly farewell
than DU will be a lesser place without you. I don't understand why this country has become so inhospitable and depressing, but it has. I wish you well-and don't ever give in to the dark side.
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YIMA Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:43 PM
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21. The Bear Went Over The Mountain........
To see what he could see.
And what do you think he saw?
He saw another mountain.
So he gave up, turned around, and went home. :cry:

Words cannot express my thoughts. Bye.
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Modem Butterfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:45 PM
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22. To Live is to Fly - Cowboy Junkies
Won't say I love you babe
Won't say I need you babe
But, I'm gonna get you babe
And I will not do you wrong
Livin's mostly wastin' time
I waste my share of mine
But it never feels too good
So let's don't take too long
You're soft as glass
And I'm a gentle man
We got the sky to talk about
And the world to lie upon.

Days up and down they come
Like rain on a conga drum
Forget most, remember some
But don't turn none away
Everything is not enough
Nothin' is to much to bear
Where you been is good and gone
All you keep is the gettin' there
To live is to fly
Low and high
So shake the dust off of your wings
And the sleep out of your eyes

It's goodbye to all my friends
It's time to go again
Think on all the poetry
And the pickin' down the line
I'll miss the system here
The bottom's low and the treble's clear
But it don't pay to think to much
On things you leave behind
I may be gone
But it won't be long
I will be a-bringin' back the melody
And the rhythm that I find

We all got holes to fill
Them holes are all that's real
Some fall on you like a storm
Sometimes you dig your own
But choice is yours to make
And time is yours to take
Some dive into the sea
Some toil upon the stone
To live is to fly
Low and high,
So shake the dust off of your wings
And the sleep out of your eyes
So shake the dust off of your wings
And the tears out of your eyes

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:46 PM
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24. Farewell. I been here> 1yr, but have appreciated you
Thanks for calling a spade a spade and shit shit. I've appreciated your postings, even though I've been here less than a yr. Bye and take care.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:46 PM
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25. Good luck

Sometimes I get message board burn-out, and don't post for a while. It would be a shame to see you leave for good, but you gotta do what's best for you.

Good luck.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:48 PM
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26. We all feel the ebbing of entropy and defeat at some point.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 08:48 PM by HypnoToad
Nothing is eternal. Extinct is forever. Time for me to go eat a chocolate bar...

In the end, whereever we go, there we are. And escape is impossible, whereever we end up - which is the same place as where we'd left. If it were that easy, we could all be free of this miserable world. But the price of space travel would probably be too high anyway.

And one less voice of reason means one more troll will take its place. DU is a lesser entity without you, and only more justification for the freepers - who are far more the trollish lunatics than ANY DUer they accuse of being.

Godspeed to you. But I've always found that the best way to leave a party is silently. No roads end up being closed. (and may no doors close on you.)
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MikeG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:50 PM
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27. Good Luck. The Dolphins still suck. Hey. That rhymes.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:53 PM
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28. No more Patriots bashing!
:cry:

Good luck to you! I hope you'll come back to say 'hi' once in a while! :toast:
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:53 PM
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29. Good luck in life, trumad, though I too suspect you'll be back
I tried leaving DU myself a couple times.

"Every time I try to get out...they pull me back in!"



Eh, Carlito?

I would only ask one thing. If you come back (when you come back?) please don't punk out and take another name and not let us know you're back. Be trumad again not some faceless other.

It took me awhile to get your quirky humor. I have to admit that I have had some of sense of humor "shot off in the wars" so to speak.

Anyway, take care and be well.

See you in the Gulags.

:hi: :toast: :hey, how come there's no Hileing Hitler Smiley:
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:00 PM
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37. Good bye
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:03 PM by senseandsensibility
You were very funny, and I appreciated that. On edit: oops! This was meant to be in response to the OM.
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:53 PM
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30. You'll be fondly missed by this DU'er.
:(
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:54 PM
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31. So you're going because
you can't say "You fucking asshole troll" and "You have Shit for Brains"?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:55 PM
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32. Good-bye and good luck
Come back soon.

:hi:
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Niccolo_Macchiavelli Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:57 PM
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33. silly
that's like stopping to drive just because ou got a ticket for speeding (or not even that)...

besides the convenience of LBN beeing a hub of links to news all over the world you won't want to miss...and when you read something thats utter bs you'll be itching to write...


cya here i s'pose
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 PM
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34. Take care Tru, you'll be missed . . .
of course you'll also be back :)
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 PM
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35. Hugs fella
I'm gonna miss you telling people they are fucking freeper trolls on my behalf :D
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 08:59 PM
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36. Hugs fella
I'm gonna miss you telling people they are fucking freeper trolls on my behalf :D
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Gannon Man Date Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:03 PM
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38. Sorry
But I have no idea who you are. Good luck though!

And don't let the door.... you know. :evilgrin:
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:07 PM
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40. Gee.... you've been here less than 24 hours and you don't know him?
wow... wtf are you doing posting here, if you don't even know him?
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:19 PM
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50. harsh nt
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:20 PM
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53. LOL.... Yay!
my new stalker is here...
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:21 PM
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57. o_O I thought you were my stalker... nt
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:22 PM
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60. nt
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:32 PM
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72. I smell something...
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:49 PM
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91. I farted...
excuse me it's the beans
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:53 PM
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93. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:04 PM
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98. ok so you won't be able to see this but...
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 10:06 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
I have only one comment to say....conversation is what makes the world go around. cya
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:26 PM
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66. Deleted message
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:34 PM
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76. hey me too
what a coincidence...great minds think alike.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:29 PM
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70. Hey miss manners!
:crazy: :boring: :eyes:
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:34 PM
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75. mr. manners
:)
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:36 PM
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79. Why do you feel it necessary to enforce your version of decorum?
Thick skins are a virtue around here. I suggest you get one soon.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:39 PM
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83. hey I been around as long as you...
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:39 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
so I would think I would know what I would need that you think you know what I need.

:P
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:43 PM
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86. No, you haven't been around as long as me
but that's neither here nor there. It seems that you play some arbiter of good manners on DU. It's inappropriate, tiresome, and rude. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:45 PM
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88. but then how can I get my hands in the cookie jar
:(...I need my cookies you know. Umm are you just judging me from this one post or from others in the past?
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:49 PM
Response to Reply #88
90. Ummmm....what do you think?
Anyway, it was nice chatting with you, but I have to run off for a spot of tea. Ta-ta!

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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:18 PM
Response to Reply #38
49. Well, that was nice.
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amazona Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:05 PM
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39. hey
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:54 PM by amazona
On second thought I've deleted my question/comment was because it was as not funny as I might have thought it was when I typed it.




The conservation movement is a breeding ground of communists
and other subversives. We intend to clean them out,
even if it means rounding up every birdwatcher in the country.
--John Mitchell, US Attorney General 1969-72


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Wonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:10 PM
Response to Reply #39
42. Yep, that's what this is about I think. Tru got yet another thread locked
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #42
44. oh, really... I prefer to take trumad's wealth of posts over the past
year (since I only joined a year ago)... to judge his reasons, rather than one subject that was turned into flame by one poster. That's just me, of course.
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Kathy in Cambridge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:14 PM
Response to Reply #42
45. A lot of us have a few extra pounds but we don't cry to Principal Skinner
:cry:

it's a shame we have to cater to others issues. Fat Actress is a parody. End of story.
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Moms Baby Democrat Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:17 PM
Response to Reply #42
48. No I Think it was more like this.........
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:19 PM
Response to Reply #48
51. Welcome to DU, Moms Baby Democrat...
How well do you actually know the OP?
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Moms Baby Democrat Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:41 PM
Response to Reply #51
85. Thanks for the welcome
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:45 PM by Moms Baby Democrat
As for trumad, I've seen him around over the years all over the net, not just DU. Are we close, intimate friends, of course not....nor did I ever claim to be. I do agree with Cat as this not only being a locked thread issue. I mean, he gave his reasons rather clearly. I was just reminding the few others that didn't see it, that he had already announced his departure prior to this evening. Kind of takes off a bit of the blow when you realize this wasn't a rash decision made on the spur of a moment thought. Take it as you will, I just think it's callous, my opinion....nothing more,nothing less. And I am allowed that when people air it out for viewing.


* on edit, Bye trumad...I'm sure I'll see you other places.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:44 PM
Response to Reply #85
87. i think that some people's farewell's have been callous, but not this one.
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:45 PM by Misunderestimator
What exactly do you disagree with in his OP with your knowledge of all his posts "all over the net" despite only knowing about his posts here for a month?

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Moms Baby Democrat Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #87
95. Assumptions or truth?
I don't have to agree or disagree....as for "callousness" I removed for flame retardent reasons. I don't like playing twist my words...so I will let you take it as you wish, like I said in the first place. Why argue a point that's already been made. He's doing as he feels best, no fights or debates. I choose truth, I don't like making assumptions.....so I'm taking him at his word and respecting his choice. I'm sorry it affects you more then me, I truly am. Please don't make those assumptions with me. My registered date tells you not how long I've been here reading, but how long I've been actively participating. I'll leave it at that...if you feel the need to talk about it more please pm me. This thread doesn't need anymore fire. Thanks.
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #95
96. ok, MBD, whatever you say
though I didn't see you exactly "respecting" his choice.
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:20 PM
Response to Reply #48
52. and more like this
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:22 PM
Response to Reply #52
58. Cute... and thanks for giving more reason why anyone would
leave here by rubbing that in... What's your point?
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:23 PM
Response to Reply #58
61. deleted...don't want to start a flamefest and get his thread locked nt
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:24 PM by ProudToBeLiberal
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. THAT'S what you said...
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 09:30 PM by Misunderestimator
could have fooled me. So... either you are crticizing trumad, or you are criticizing the site, which is it?

(On edit... nice edit by the way... make sure you don't criticize the site.)
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:26 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. nt
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Misunderestimator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #65
67. LOL
how original of you...
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:29 PM
Response to Reply #67
69. imitation is the greatest form of flattery
:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:30 PM
Response to Reply #69
71. someone is lonely tonite...............
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ProudToBeLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:33 PM
Response to Reply #71
73. I have no quarrel with you...but to address your comment
isn't everyone lonely some point in their life? Loneliness makes us appreciate more when we do have somebody. :)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #73
78. I just think you need your own thread
cause this one has another purpose.
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Moms Baby Democrat Donating Member (182 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:25 PM
Response to Reply #52
63. Same Thread?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:27 PM
Response to Reply #42
68. It goes deeper than a couple of stupid assed locked threads
:eyes:
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #42
103. If we could only strive to your same, impeccable standards,
not only in spelling and grammar, but also in decorum, the world would be a happier fucking place. I am in awe of your keen sense of protocol.
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:08 PM
Response to Original message
41. Let's inquire about a permanent hall pass.
Shall we :D

Keep lurking, you can't resist us.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:12 PM
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43. DU is like heroin...
it is the reason my house isn't cleaned regularly...
i don't get enough sleep....


you will be back....


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:15 PM
Response to Reply #43
46. Take care, Trumad
we'll be here waiting for you if and when you decide to return. I hope you do.
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kodi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:15 PM
Response to Original message
47. dude, where's the fucking money you owe me?
i will hunt you down and get it.

until then, take care and see you on the other side. i will miss you and regret only that what you posted today is all too correct

"Tho' much is taken, much abides; and tho'
We are not now that strength which in the old days
Moved earth and heaven; that which we are, we are;
One equal-temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield."

Ulysses Tennyson



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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:21 PM
Response to Original message
54. I'm sorry to see you go, but I understand
when you have to do what you have to do.
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:21 PM
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55. NO!
Your threads made me LAUGH.

WE need laughter in these times. The pc stick up the arse types aren't going to make it to 2008. Aren't those the old Dems we bitch about daily? Uh huh.

Take no prisoners. And enjoy the ride however you can.

Cheers!
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:21 PM
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56. good luck
:evilfrown:
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NightTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:22 PM
Response to Original message
59. I understand where you're coming from, but...
...I must agree with those who've said you'll be back. DU addiction is an almost-impossible habit to break!
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:23 PM
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62. TRUMAD my sweet
if I find you I will KICK YOUR ASS! OK, you do what you gotta do but how about checking in once in a while, let us know what's up, how you're doing? I WILL MISS YOU! :hi:
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:33 PM
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74. Hate to see you go
You are an important part of DU and it's sad to see you go. Maybe we will see you back some day. Take care.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:37 PM
Response to Original message
80. don't forget your gloves.
:D

Peace, you old grump.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:38 PM
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81. trumad, say it ain't so...
I've always had nothing but respect for you. You will be missed.

Keep punching -- :toast:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:39 PM
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82. I hope you come back.
I understand that which you wrote about. In fact, I understand it very well indeed. All I'll say is that rather than view this as your Last Tango in Paris, take a week or two and consider it A Clockwork Orange. I'm not sure that it makes it any better, but it puts some of the younger peoples' behavior in context.
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:40 PM
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84. Peace
I totally get where you're coming from, and I wish you well. I hope to see you back some day.

DTH
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:49 PM
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89. Take care, Trumad
Peace to you.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:52 PM
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92. bye, Trumad
take care

:hi:
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 09:54 PM
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94. Hope to see you back here some day tru
until then....
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:01 PM
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97. Well, trumad, you don't know me,
but I've enjoyed some of your threads.

Namaste.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:07 PM
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99. Well ok but.....
it makes no sense to leave a place that you like so much.


:shrug:
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:09 PM
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100. shame about that...you'll be missed. But I s'pose I know where to find you
;)
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:16 PM
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101. I joined DU in 2002 and this is (by far) the *best* "Goodbye" thread
I've ever read. :cry:

Trumad, please don't go. But, if you do, I hope you'll keep the spirit and stop by from time to time just to say "hello".

We'll all miss you.

Cheers!

:hi:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:27 PM
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102. Nice knowing you, Tru
But I gotta concure with a lot of folks here - you'll be back. Because that is also who you are.

Peace, love, and understanding. And, once more from the dairy products gone bad...
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:31 PM
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104. before you leave
do you know anything about theline and circle cartoon? i can't get a response.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:38 PM
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106. Good luck to you
Please come back and say hi every now and again. Take care...
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VelmaD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:38 PM
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107. dammit tru...
you're gonna make me break my hard and fast rule about giving people shit on "I'm leaving DU" threads. I just can't do it to you. I've had too much fun watching you and Will give each other shit. I understand why you want to go...I have the same feelings myself sometimes...like this isn't quite the same place I found back in 2001. But we've already lost so many good people who made this place special...I'd hate to lose you too. Reconsider? :)
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HamstersFromHell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:40 PM
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108. Thanks for calling 'em as you've seen 'em.
Something sorely needed around here in the threads when we're mired trying to post some "non-offensive" bullshit because a few folks haven't grown thick enough skin.

Good luck and godspeed in whatever your endeavors, Trumad.

:toast:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 10:54 PM
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109. Although...
... my sporadically addled brain has often confused you with matcom (I really don't know why, really) I think it's too bad you are leaving.

Your post hits the nail on the head, message boards without rules suck the big one but too many rules suck too. I doubt I could do any better than the folks who run this thing.

Someday somebody will start a new board, it will be somewhat like DU but it will be different. Maybe I'll see you there :)
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:22 PM
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110. Damn, trumad
I understand your reasons, really I do. But I wish you well, and selfishly, I do not like seeing one more old-timer fade from the boards.

Feel free to change your mind and return. I will be sure to welcome you back.
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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:28 PM
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111. Farewell, trumad
I have also been here awhile (since 2001), and the changes you have noted aren't only bothering you. While I understand the need for these rules because of the growth of the board, it is very hard for me to "be myself" with so many rules.

I'm attached to a lot of people here, and I think it would absolutely be hard for me to leave completely. In the past couple of years I definitely haven't been posting as much as I used to, in part because of the changes that have been made.

So anyway, I wish you luck, and hope that maybe someday you'll come back and say hello.

Take care.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:35 PM
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112. I'll miss you trumad, your posts were always from the heart
or full of heart. Take care of yourself and please come back to visit.

:hug:

You will be missed! :grouphug:

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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:36 PM
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113. No no no! You can't go!
Please don't go. You'll be missed too much. I'll miss you.
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Amfortas Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:39 PM
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114. I don't know you much,,,,,
Edited on Mon Mar-14-05 11:39 PM by Amfortas
being a newbie I feel out of line sayimg bye .... makes it sound artificial....

but here it goes ....Goodbye Trumad , and may you find happiness in everything you seek .
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-14-05 11:53 PM
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115. You had to leave DU before the South Florida meetup
That sucks. It would have been nice to have a fellow Miamian around. Feel free to join us anyway.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=105&topic_id=2829945&mesg_id=2829945
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:02 AM
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116. Oh no you don't! Get your ass back in here right now!
You are not allowed to leave! Why? Because I'm fucking norml, and I say so!
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:18 AM
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117. Will miss your voice!
:hi:
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Kat45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:28 AM
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118. Sorry to hear that, but it was a great goodbye!
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 12:28 AM by notmyprez
I've enjoyed your posts.


Salut'
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:29 AM
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119. Your 'Phins are doomed
and you *will* be missed.

:toast:
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:33 AM
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120. Later my friend
Leave the door open, if you don't come back I might be following you.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:44 AM
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121. Just Take A Break And Come Back Later
Rules, schmules. That's no reason to leave for good. Just a reason to decompress and take some time off of DU.

We'll see you in a few. Not goodbye. Just "See You Later".
The Professor
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 10:50 AM
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122. Thanks for the mention and I will miss you truman
:hi:

During the Miami Ohio State screamfests I came to realize that your screen name was trumad NOT truman as god is my witness I had never noticed. Fuckin' Dickel.

Anyway good look. Keep your feet dry and your powder wet. When you meet a stranger look at her hands and at his shoes (they tell a lot) and remember just because you aren't here doesn't mean that we aren't not thinking about you.

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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #122
123. Miami and Ohio State?
Robbery in the desert.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:39 AM
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124. Good friend, you really need to take a break from all this madness.
Go out into the world, travel, do something for days on end that doesn't require a computer keyboard. Unplug yourself for a few weeks, months, whatever.

But something tells me...sooner or later...that you will return.

Take care, buddy.

Peace.

:hug:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:44 AM
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125. I respect your decision regardless of past, I've been here since 2001
too and hope you stop in now and then.
Peace,
Bob
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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:44 AM
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126. Call me skeptical, trumad, but something tells me you'll be back.
Rules or no rules, this place is too important to just leave forever. An island of (relative) sanity in an ocean of bigoted, hate-filled, incompetant, right-wing madness.

If you truly are never coming back, then later days, my friend. Take care, and God Bless. :hi:

If you decide to come back, I'll be the first to throw you a :party:

B-)
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 12:06 PM
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127. Well fuck.
I would say good luck and all that crap but if you're not coming back what's it matter.

Hope you come back, trumad... we'll miss you. :(
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:01 PM
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128. There is already a DU Hell. We need a DU Heaven.
And something that is the opposite of a "Tombstone."

Maybe it could be a special forum, called "The Trumad Show" or something like that, a protected place insulated from the ugly rules and realities of the greater DU, a place where worn out DU dogs could visit from time to time just to piss around.

It would be a happy place where freeper trolls and ignorant newbies would always be roasting on the spit, and the bars would always be open.

BTW Trumad, ---deleted---

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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:04 PM
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129. bye Tru
:hi:
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:07 PM
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130. If you're still reading...
Edited on Tue Mar-15-05 01:10 PM by Crankie Avalon
...I wish you all the best.

I've only been here a little over nine months and this is a HUGE board--so big, in fact, that most of us inevitably end up just being a blur to each other--but you were one of the members whose personality was memorable enough to stand out.

I quietly go on to other threads when flames start up, but even I PMed you recently after one of your threads got locked due to someone basically crashing into it and acting like a wanton thug. I thought that person was disgraceful and should have been banned. Instead, that person is still around so far as I know, and now you're the one who is leaving.

Well, again, best of luck--I think I understand your decision and, the more I think about it, the more logical your decision seems.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:21 PM
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131. godspeed, 'bro
:hi:
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:28 PM
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Just kidding - I thought I'd give you a taste of GD before you go.

I'm sorry that you're leaving, but maybe you'll come back soon. :hi:

Good luck!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:34 PM
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:39 PM
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134. take care, trumad.
thank you for not doing the "i'm leaving DU forever, and i hate all of you for not being the one thing i wanted to force you to be"

see ya on the flip side!
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 01:43 PM
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135. take care trumad
you'll be back. your sort allways come back ;)
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-15-05 11:26 PM
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136. Sad to see you go, but...
I SURRRRRRRE do understand. Sometimes I just sit in awe of some of the bullshit I see some people say on here. It usually ends with me closing the window and coming back after a week or two. I wasn't always able to to that, but I think I've made it through the 12 steps of DU addiction. I can have a casual DU now and again and it doesn't affect me much.

Peace trumad!
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