I hate the 80's

[XNASA]

Well, not me, but Jim DeRogatis, the Pop Music Critic of the Sun-Times says he does.

http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-eighties10.html

--"...... the '80s music that is most often celebrated in the mainstream 20 years on -- and which is being re-sold now with the most gusto -- tends to be the very worst. In fact, an argument can be made that the decade was the most god-awful in rock history."--

Come to think of it, I DO hate the 80's!!!!!!!

[RagingInMiami]

1. The only good bands that came out of the 80s were

Guns N Roses and the Beastie Boys.

[XNASA]

6. You have my sympathy.

[Placebo]

11. I'm holding a candlelight vigil in hopes that you're joking.

:)

[RagingInMiami]

It's hard to understand if you didn't live through the 80s

[Placebo]

20. Oh but I did...

my parents were loyal club-goers for the entire decade of 1980, even after I was born, and growing up and to this day I still get all the best 80s music pumped into my brain! When I was younger it was nonstop! I practically lived through it with them! :D

[RagingInMiami]

27. How sad

corrupted at such a young age

[Kathy in Cambridge]

12. Guns N Roses?

:puke:

[DBoon]

25. The only good bands to come out of the 80s

actually came out of the late 70s

[XNASA]

33. Bingo.

[terrya]

2. But...it's the Sun-Times...

Ick. I tend to discount anything that horrid rag has to say.

I liked most of the music from the 80's. Doug and I have talked about this. He basically thinks I'm an idiot. :-) He says the 70's were much better, music wise.

[XNASA]

7. More specifically, DeRogatis is a well-known idiot.

That's how he got a job at the S-T.

[Cocoa]

3. I hate the Sun Times's website

seriously out of all the thousands of websites I go to, the Sun Times stands out.

And I agree pretty much with De Rogatis. I actually agree with Homer Simpson, who said music achieved its peak in 1974. :-)

[dean_dem]

19. "For more information on Grand Funk consult your local library!"

[Tektonik]

4. I hate you

:P

[XNASA]

8. You made me cry.

:cry:

[Tektonik]

13. Aww I'm sorry

I just strongly dislike you. :P
I love the eighties. I was born in the eighties, and it had by far the best music.

BTW, I like you. :)

[XNASA]

36. Well, they were interesting times.

But in retrospect, a little cheesy.

[Placebo]

5. I love 80s music and you should too.

:)

[XNASA]

10. I should, but I don't.

1975-1979, the Glory Years of Pop Music.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

15. There was some great 80s alternative bands

but none compared to XTC, the Buzzcocks, the Clash, the Jam, etc.

[XNASA]

21. I love all those bands....

And they all started in the late 70's.

[DBoon]

30. I was there! There were bands I liked!

Minutemen, Savage Republic, Rank and File, X, Wall of Voodoo, Husker Du, Test Department

[Kathy in Cambridge]

40. Husker Du, Minor Threat, Black Flag

I REALLY loved Husker Du!

[johnnie]

9. The 80s were a drag

Of course there was some good music to come out of the 80s, but most of it was terrible. The whole decade sucked for the most part and I do not look fondly on that decade.
I didn't mind the 80s dance music as much as I couldn't stand the hair bands. Spandex, hairspray and eyeliner just didn't cut it.

[XNASA]

14. That's because you never saw me in spandex and eyeliner.

If you had, you'd be singing a different tune.

[terrya]

26. That has to be 10,000 times more attractive than MY drag pictures..

When I was in Dallas, I did drag. Once. Pictures were taken. They were NOT even close to being pretty. :shudder:

[XNASA]

32. We'll pick this subject up at a later date.

There's no way I can not see these pictures.

[johnnie]

44. I have a feeling..

I wouldn't be singing a good tune.

[Susang]

16. Anyone read Neal Pollack's novel?

Never Mind the Pollacks:A Rock and Roll Novel? It pretty much sums up how I feel about rock critics. It has more vomit scenes per page than any other novel in history! :puke:

[XNASA]

24. Critics in general, tend to suck.

But DeRogatis is the Suck King.

[Susang]

28. That's an icky title to hold

I don't read his stuff, so I'll take your word about his suckage. :D

[dean_dem]

17. I think those 10 reasons could be said...

...for any pop music of any decade. It was said on another board that pop music is not about the art of music, its about the entertainment, and if DeRogatis is such a humorless old-fart that he can't see that, I feel sorry for him. Sometimes your brain just needs a little junk food.

I hate the 80s too, as a matter of fact. Not the actual decade mind you, but this disorted view of "the 80s" where it was all funny haircuts, crappy drum machines and mountains of coke. I also hate ignorant people who perpetuate the notion that all music during that decade was like that (VH1, I'm looking at you). So yeah, Motley Crue sucked. Johnny Hates Jazz sucked. "She Blinded Me With Science" is probably one of the worst songs ever written. But just like the music of the 90s wasn't all the Spice Girls and Ace of Base, the 80s wasn't all Flock of Seagulls and "Mickey". But if you're too lazy to find music outside of what is on the radio or MTV, then you don't get the right to bitch about it.

And I'll just say that while much of mainstream 80s music did in fact suck, I'll still take Spandau Ballet over Good Charlotte any fucking day of the week.

ETA: For the record, "99 Luft Balloons" and "White Wedding" were both spectacular songs, and they were both "mainstream" hits.

[Left Is Write]

31. I remember the entire decade clearly.

I was 13 when it started and 23 when it ended. Of course, I remember the funny haircuts and drum machines (coke was never my thing). But I also remember other music, other fashions, news, politics, life in general.

It's somewhat amusing to me how my daughter (almost 18) and her friends view the 80s. To them, the entire decade WAS huge hair, bangle bracelets and leg warmers. My daughter was recently trying to come up with an outfit for an 80s day at school. I made a few preppy-ish suggestions and she looked at me like I'd turned green.

"They didn't wear stuff like that in the 80s, Mother!"

They didn't? I was there. I was one of "them."

I think she forgot that for a minute.

[GOPisEvil]

18. A friend of mine contributed to his book.

Is he still doing that "musical version of Ebert and Roeper" on PBS up there? I had dinner with he and some other folks, and he was talking about it. His show sounded interesting at least. He was kind of pompous.

This is the book, btw: http://www.jimdero.com/idols.htm

[XNASA]

29. I think his radio show is on WXRT.

The Roeper to his Ebert is a guy named Greg Kot, I think. Kot works for the Trib and embarrasses "Jimmy D" on a weekly basis, or did. When I was reheasing on Tuesdays, I would tune in to the show which ran Tuesday nights from 10-midnight.

[GOPisEvil]

34. Wait a sec....I've got crap confused!

I met Kot at that dinner (he wrote the Wilco book, right?). HE was cool. Derogatis I met elsewhere, he was a pompous tool.


Come to think of it, both those guys should be here in town next week. Maybe I'll meet Kot again.

[XNASA]

37. Yes, Kot wrote the Wilco book.

And he's not a bad guy. DeRogatis seems to say things just to try and be cool, even though he's got no idea what he's saying.

The show is called "Sound Opinions". Here's a link...

http://www.93xrt.com/program/detail/sound_opinions.html

[GOPisEvil]

38. Kot actually was describing the show to me over Mexican food..

They want to take it national. I thought it was PBS, but I guess more like NPR. I think that's a great idea for a show. I should listen. I need to remind myself! Thanks for the link.

That was an awesome dinner. Kot, some guy from Jersy who puts out a punk magazine, Lucinda Williams' publicist...it was fun. SOmetimes it's good when your friends date music journalists.

[ffm172]

22. I grew up in the 80s

what do you think I think about the music of that decade? I LOVE it. :)

[GOPisEvil]

23. See some 21st century music in your hometown!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x2801055

[redqueen]

35. I don't!

I heard Stay by Oingo Boingo while watching the director's cut of Donnie Darko and was reminded how much I love their music.

If we get through
one more night...

[HughBeaumont]

39. That decade fucking sucked.

If it weren't for speed metal, early rap, hardcore, USA Night Flight and The Young Ones, that decade would have been a complete lost cause. Everyone was mean and bastardish for no reason and I got shitty grades on an almost continual basis no matter HOW much I studied.

[MissMillie]

41. Just as with any decade

It had its good and it had its bad.

[grace0418]

42. I love the 80s, sorry. The Smiths, Crowded House, The Cure...

The Police, Depeche Mode, Beastie Boys, Talk Talk, ABC, New Order, Elvis Costello, English Beat, Ministry, General Public, Love & Rockets, Erasure, Madness, They Might Be Giants, The Style Council, Squeeze, Revolting Cocks, Meat Beat Manifesto...so many more.

Even taking away most of the others, The Smiths, Crowded House and The Police made the decade worthwhile IMHO.

[movie_girl99]

47. dont forget

Thomas Dolby, Human League, Berlin, Flock of Seagulls, Kajagoogoo

[ladeuxiemevoiture]

43. Personally, I think the 80's were weird.

AIDS came out right at the beginning of the decade, no cure in sight, thousands died, including one of my friends. People were scared that Reagan was going to get us into a nuclear war.

As to music, there were the Go-Go's, the Bangles, Tones on Tail, the Waitresses, Adam and the Ants, Rita Mitsouka, Cher's second or third comeback, Tia ("Boy Toy"), the B-52's - a lot of memorable stuff. Changed the course of history in fact, as these acts presaged the fall of the Soviet Union.

[CTLawGuy]

45. well it hates you too

:P

[Abelman]

46. Weird

A lot of the music from the eighties was not that good, but that doesn't mean people don't like it.

I love Chee-tos, but they aren't exactly good for me.

[Ellen Forradalom]

48. The styles dated especially quickly

Those haircuts, clothes, and synthesizers fell out of date in a hurry.

IMHO Hüsker Dü redeems the whole decade.

[movie_girl99]

49. uh well

some of that stuff is coming back styles and all. We have a huge collection of 80's electronica in our house. My 13 yr old is facinated by it

[XNASA]

50. So you're saying I should stop wearing leg-warmers?

:shrug:

[Susang]

52. Actually, no, not quite yet

They've resurfaced and are back in style for about another 15 minutes or until Urban Outfitters runs out of them. ;-)


http://www.urbanoutfitters.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=7523&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=77&iSubCat=89&iProductID=7523

[Ellen Forradalom]

53. ....they're baaaaaack.....

I've seen them on girl on Belmont Ave. Truly scary.

[AngryAmish]

51. Jim DeRogatis = Comic Book Guy

Grown men should not take such an interest in rock music.

That said, 80s pop music sucked. Hair metal, Michael Jackson etc. It was really hard to hear good music, which is kinda the case today.

[LoZoccolo]

54. People thought the 80s were way cooler than the 70s during the 80s too.

And then another thing, people thought that 80s hairstyles looked all good back then, and laughed at 70s hairstyles...I think 70s hairstyles look less tacky than 80s hairstyles do.

[ZoCrowes]

55. I'll agree with most of that

The Jam put out 2 good albums in the early 80s then broke up, The Smiths released a few good ones, The Cure released two good ones, U2's first few albums were excellent (Joshua Tree is highly overrated though,) Stone Roses released their first one at the tail end of 89 and uh...that's about it. Yep, rest of it sucked

[Kickin_Donkey]

56. Douglas Coupland, the author of ...

"Generation X," who was born in 1961, said the only good thing about the '80s (music or otherwise) was REM.

I went to college in the early and mid-80s, and I cringe when I hear just about any music from that era.

[SiouxJ]

57. Oh geez, I'm going back into hibernation

now I remember why I left ;-) .

:hi: c'ya!